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Jobs, economy, market, and defense; not surprised you’re tone deaf to what matters the most. Tell me more about a bunch of **** that doesn’t matter, can’t wait to hear who the latest aggrieved social group is.
Any poll that predicted Hillary's "sure thing" win was dead wrong, and most of them were. Spin away if you prefer but Trump's not the one complaining about Russians or "collusion", the losing side is & you're on it.
They are so confident of this "Blue Wave" rolling ashore but isn't it amazing how not one of them can cite the legislative agenda Democrats would be elected to carry forward as an improvement on what Trump's doing? They have no agenda.
All you'll hear from them is impeachment, or end the racist attitudes towards illegal ailiens, or protect women's rights. At least that's all I hear from their side. Sounds like a winning mandate to me.
If things are great and he is still underwater I can't wait to see how our is after he actually does **** things up.
There is probably no greater anticipation on the Left than you all just hoping and expecting Trump to screw up. It's not looking good for your side though. First you all didn't think he'd even get elected. Then you didn't think he could govern, now you're predicting he's going to crash and burn?
Stop predicting things about Trump, you all are making yourselves miserable.
Um...not so fast!
Trump fulfilling campaign promises
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"President Trump promised in his first inaugural address that his administration would be guided by one “crucial conviction: that a nation exists to serve its citizens.” He went on to say that “every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs, will be made to benefit American workers and American families.” His first year in office has been the story of promises kept".
link:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...omises-christopher-buskirk-column/1041117001/
..more
64% of Trump's agenda already done
excerpt:
"Trump hasn’t just focused on one agenda area, but he and his team has pushed through administrative moves on foreign policy, deregulation, immigration, tax reform and health care, moves often ignored by the media".
link:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...trumps-agenda-already-done-faster-than-reagan
...still more
Trump's first year in Office is impressive
excerpt:
"As President Trump finished his first full year in office, he could look back at an impressive record of achievement of a kind rarely attained by an incoming president — much less by one who arrived in office as a private-sector billionaire without either prior political office or military service. As unintended proof of his accomplishments, Trump’s many liberal opponents have gone from initially declaring him an incompetent to warning that he has become effective — insanely so — in overturning the Obama progressive agenda".
link:
https://www.nationalreview.com/maga...p-accomplishments-since-in-office-impressive/
(what are Democrats offering in opposition that is superior to what he's accomplished so far if he's done "nothing" and not been able to govern?)
Do you have an answer?
No they weren't. Not a single poll had Trump winning PA or Michigan, or even North Carolina for that matter.
Let 'em keep spinning.They are believing equally flawed polls today showing Trump almost universally hated and more than half the country regretting their mistake voting for him. Meantime, no one is clamoring for the popular Democrat alternatives, nor complaining about the extra money from the tax cuts or the new job they just got hired for.
Yes there were. Even the RCP average had Trump ahead in NC, NYTimes had it as a tie. There were also polls showing him ahead in Michigan and PA. The ones that didn't still showed a race that was within the margin.
That doesn't even factor in that most final polls were in the field when the Comey letter came out, so they either didn't have time to capture it or only captured a couple days of it.
A poll showing a race 47-42 with a 3 point MoE means that they believe there is a 95% chance that the race is somewhere between 50-39 and 44-45. It is equally likely that the margin is off in either direction. Trump won Mich and PA by razor thin totals, which any political scientist would tell you is well within the possible results of the polls we were seeing.
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See they justify these polls to satisfy themselves that Trump's election was just a statistical fluke, and can't happen again. He just got "lucky" and captured lightening in a bottle and just happened to upset the smartest woman in the world no one would dare vote against.(with a little assist from the Russians)
Only one small problem with that scenario...look at the entire electoral map, county by county, district by district, State-by-state. In some areas of the country it's solid Red. In smaller areas it's solid blue, but no where was this groundswell of support for Hillary that Trump just happened to skate past.
He beat her soundly in the electoral college, and in States he had no business winning according to the very latest polls which had showed Hillary in solid position. They're just in total denial.
You are too stupid to see what is right in front of your face becauee you are a partisan hack incapable of independant thought.
If the variance of a poll is a 95% chance that the result will be between 50-39 and 44-45 my question is why would anyone ever take any poll that innacurate seriously?
I over stated when I said "Not a single poll," but only a monkey would think the "polls got it right" when it came to Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and even Florida for that matter.
Even the vaunted Nate Silver and his illustrious crew fracked up the interpretation of the "polls".
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-pennsylvania-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-north-carolina-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-michigan-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.co...residential-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
National polls.... sure they got it a little closer in popular vote, but again.... monkey....
Nationally she should have done even better according to the polls.... but....... she didn't.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/
So stop it people... stop brushing off his approval ratings.... trying to pinpoint it.... and accept the FACT that things are going pretty damn good right now... all in the face of his ability to stick his foot in his mouth and an "investigation" that has gone off the rails.
Even the vaunted Nate Silver and his illustrious crew fracked up the interpretation of the "polls".
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-pennsylvania-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-north-carolina-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-michigan-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.co...residential-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
National polls.... sure they got it a little closer in popular vote, but again.... monkey....
Nationally she should have done even better according to the polls.... but....... she didn't.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/
So stop it people... stop brushing off his approval ratings.... trying to pinpoint it.... and accept the FACT that things are going pretty damn good right now... all in the face of his ability to stick his foot in his mouth and an "investigation" that has gone off the rails.
He has dealt with this ******** investigation since literally days into his administration and yet.....he has a lot of successes and we are on the verge of ending a 60 year war.I over stated when I said "Not a single poll," but only a monkey would think the "polls got it right" when it came to Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and even Florida for that matter.
Even the vaunted Nate Silver and his illustrious crew fracked up the interpretation of the "polls".
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-pennsylvania-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-north-carolina-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-michigan-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.co...residential-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
National polls.... sure they got it a little closer in popular vote, but again.... monkey....
Nationally she should have done even better according to the polls.... but....... she didn't.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/
So stop it people... stop brushing off his approval ratings.... trying to pinpoint it.... and accept the FACT that things are going pretty damn good right now... all in the face of his ability to stick his foot in his mouth and an "investigation" that has gone off the rails.
I over stated when I said "Not a single poll," but only a monkey would think the "polls got it right" when it came to Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and even Florida for that matter.
Even the vaunted Nate Silver and his illustrious crew fracked up the interpretation of the "polls".
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-pennsylvania-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-north-carolina-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-michigan-president-trump-vs-clinton
https://elections.huffingtonpost.co...residential-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
National polls.... sure they got it a little closer in popular vote, but again.... monkey....
Nationally she should have done even better according to the polls.... but....... she didn't.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/
So stop it people... stop brushing off his approval ratings.... trying to pinpoint it.... and accept the FACT that things are going pretty damn good right now... all in the face of his ability to stick his foot in his mouth and an "investigation" that has gone off the rails.
You clearly were not reading what Silver and 538 were saying. They were screaming that the race was very close and that Trump had a much higher chance of winning than many people thought.
You dont know what you are talking about.
Silvers model gave Trump a ~30% chance to win. Better odds than flipping a coin and having it come up heads twice in a row. Similar odds yo playing Russian Roulette with 2 bullets in a 6 shot revolver. That certainly isn't something that could never happen. He also said that there was much greater uncertainty in the data than normal.
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I am certain you look like a fool. Nate was wrong. Very wrong. Just like everyone else. You are trying to rewrite history and you look like a loon.
You're just proving that you dont understand how probability works.
Trump won, but that doesn't mean he had more than a 30% chance. Things that have a 30% probability happen all the time.
Keep talking in circles. You lost. Your boy Nate was wroooooooooong. You are clueless. This thread is over.
atlkvb, You need to tone down your postings and let the lefties wallow in their misery. Their whining, bitching and moaning does refresh my day...
With all the witch hunts being pushed and stalling tactics against Trump, He can't get his appointments into questioning much less into leadership position..
Who cares about polls predicting whatever they predicted when after all the votes were counted none of the predictions were true?
Why are you even bringing up how "close" they were, or suggesting they were within their "margins of error"? Guess what? ALL of them were wrong who predicted a Hillary victory. That "margin of error" was 100% wrong!
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What is the value of statistics when personal preference is introduced into the model? Two weeks out, some were predicting double digit wins while one may be predicting Trump or close. While pollsters were predicting Hillary without doubt. Mean time Trump was pulling crowds of 30000. Physical evidence has to outweigh prejudiced pollsters, but their prejudice would not allow them to see reality. GIGO.
The polls were showing a very close race. You can. believe what you want, but the outcome was within what the polls showed. The national polls were nearly perfect.
******** nothing. Your clowns have been ip Trumps *** since day one another he has absolutely destroyed the left. You are snivelling crying asshats with a list of 3k lies. Get a fuking life losers.
I have a math minor. I could have had a degree in Math had I wanted. I also have a minor in destroying ignorant liberal fools. You were a 200 level course.