3 Starters Out Tonight

IL_Wildcat

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This team really needs a PG. And this team if they get back to a full team without medical problems will be 10-15 points better. Now if that’s what you call an excuse so be it. What this team will be with healthy players is nothing like the tonight. We have yet to see our true team play.
Has Pope had a fully healthy roster in ANY game he has coached at UK? I can't remember.

The other problem is that the clock is ticking. The opportunities for resume building wins are passing by. When will we be healthy? If we're 7-6 heading into SEC play, how many games will we need to win in conference to even make the tournament?

We're almost at the point of no return, I'm afraid. Pope recruited a bunch of role players and paid them like starters. There's no way around it. If Quaintance is an NBA type star, he's the ONLY one.
 

CrimsonCats_rivals

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Lowe and Mo played against Louisville and we honestly didn’t look that much better. I like the idea of JQ being a defensive anchor, but it seems over the top to think he turns what looks like a bubble team or worse right now into a legit contender, especially since we aren’t sure if he’ll be 100% of what he was last year as soon as he returns.

As much as I hate it, it’s time to face the reality that this team has some deep flaws and isn’t as good as advertised.
 

KyLegacyBBN

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this all comes down to Pope not signing another PG. It’s wild considering what happened last year but here we are.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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No question. Full roster this team is 8-0 or 7-1 right now, easily
Or it would simply be more turmoil because of all the entitlement on this team.

We have multiple selfish players/bad shot takers: Johnson, Garrison, Oweh, Mo D, Lowe. How does that change with a fully healthy roster?
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Just the truth. Mark knew he would be without JQ till January, but once he came back, he would have a top 10-12 club. He wasn't counting on losing Lowe or Dioubate. But somehow poster on this board can expect UK to be the '96 squad despite being down 3 top players
The issue with this logic is that you're assuming Lowe and Mo D are anything more than high-level role players. They're not. This team has one upper echelon player in Oweh (who is playing poorly and selfishly for the most part) and 11 role players. JQ was never expected to be back before January, and he's only a 9 and 7 guy who's somehow been anointed the next Chris Webber.

And your best-case scenario of UK being a top 10-12 club with a $15-20 million dollar roster says it all. You spend that much money, and you better put a top 5 team on the floor.
 

Vek96

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This team really needs a PG. And this team if they get back to a full team without medical problems will be 10-15 points better. Now if that’s what you call an excuse so be it. What this team will be with healthy players is nothing like the tonight. We have yet to see our true team play.
I hope you’re right, because, this is the only hope we have left.
 

TFCat11

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You were a sunshine pumper when Cal was driving the program into the ground and here you are now pumpin the same ****. **** off.
Dude is on ignore for me! No actual real fan worth their fandom pumps troll BS non stop like that dips**t😂
 

JimboBBN

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The three guys coming back aren’t going to magically improve our three point shooting
 

UKCowboys

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The issue with this logic is that you're assuming Lowe and Mo D are anything more than high-level role players. They're not. This team has one upper echelon player in Oweh (who is playing poorly and selfishly for the most part) and 11 role players. JQ was never expected to be back before January, and he's only a 9 and 7 guy who's somehow been anointed the next Chris Webber.

And your best-case scenario of UK being a top 10-12 club with a $15-20 million dollar roster says it all. You spend that much money, and you better put a top 5 team on the floor.
Just not true. We lost a one possession game. Do you really think Veesaar goes off like he's Kevin McHale if JQ plays? That alone changes the record to 6-2. Do you think he doesnt help or a full time PG doesn't help against a Louisville team we were only down 4 to late 2nd half? Please.
 

cornbreadnmilk

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Just not true. We lost a one possession game. Do you really think Veesaar goes off like he's Kevin McHale if JQ plays? That alone changes the record to 6-2. Do you think he doesnt help or a full time PG doesn't help against a Louisville team we were only down 4 to late 2nd half? Please.
So you are pinning your hopes on a guard that can't shoot or defend and a big man coming off a major surgery? Sounds like a great plan.
 

UKCowboys

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So you are pinning your hopes on a guard that can't shoot or defend and a big man coming off a major surgery? Sounds like a great plan.
When they should both be back in Jan of a season that ends in April? Yeah. And also in the kids we have. The only game we weren't right there at the end with was Michigan State, who looks like a Heck of a squad. I get it, you quit on your team. Come back next year
 

cornbreadnmilk

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When they should both be back in Jan of a season that ends in April? Yeah. And also in the kids we have. The only game we weren't right there at the end with was Michigan State, who looks like a Heck of a squad. I get it, you quit on your team. Come back next year
Next year will be so much better when top recruits refuse to come to a mess Pope created.
 

Cats3x

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This team really needs a PG. And this team if they get back to a full team without medical problems will be 10-15 points better. Now if that’s what you call an excuse so be it. What this team will be with healthy players is nothing like the tonight. We have yet to see our true team play.
Truth... but many cant understand it.
 
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The old saying of “the best ability is availability…”

Applies to the current situation.

Took some gambles on guys with injuries, something I personally am never a fan of regardless of talent and potential.

Especially in the OAD and now portal era when you’re taking shots on guys who ultimately will play very little if at all do to “NBA stock” and now what they can fetch in open NIL/portal market.

I’m not saying Perry would make a huge difference, but he is a PG and he did fine last season being thrown into things. Might not be “elite” but he played hard and year 2 in the system he could at least hold the fort.

We’ve had a lot of players who weren’t “elite, athletic, big, or fast enough…” contribute and be productive parts of the team…