3rd & goal on the 2 yard against LSU....
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In most instances, I would line up in the wishbone and call the triple option to the wide side of the field or the strong side of the formation.
I like the wishbone as a goal line formation. And I have always wondered why more people don't use it in goal line situations- whether a team has a drop back passer or an option QB. I am glad that Dan Mullen agrees with me and that we use it. I could not believe that a MSU coach would do something different and it was cool to see that something that I always thought would work does work. It was kind of like thinking about a song, and then the song that you were thinking about comes on the radio. I like the fact that it increases your options on the goal line without really having to sacrifice beef up front. In a traditional goal line set, it's pretty much the QB straight forward, or a running back straight ahead most of the time, and the defense usually has a pretty good idea of where the ball is going to go and who is going to get the ball. With the wishbone, you put two halfbacks back there, and they don't know who is going to get the ball, who is going to be lead blocking, if the TE is going to go out for a pass, if the QB is going to sneak it, if it's going to be an option play, or if the fullback is going to get it.
Now, if it's the fourth quarter and there are under 30 seconds, I'm going to call a run- pass option play to the right side of the formation- assuming a right handed QB with the TE going to the corner of the end zone and a WR/TE running some type of crossing route from the left side of the field to the right side of the field so that if the TE is covered, the QB has a second option , and if neither of those are there and he thinks that he can run it in, run for it, and if they defend it well, throw it away, and come back for fourth down.
On fourth down, I would go shotgun, five wide with four WR's to one side of the formation and the X on the other side, and have the X run a slant, and if they have him doubled on that side ( I think a slant would still probably work), I would call a screen to the side where the four WR's are to Chad Bumphis and let him work his magic.
If I'm Les Miles, I spike it on fourth down.
I like the wishbone as a goal line formation. And I have always wondered why more people don't use it in goal line situations- whether a team has a drop back passer or an option QB. I am glad that Dan Mullen agrees with me and that we use it. I could not believe that a MSU coach would do something different and it was cool to see that something that I always thought would work does work. It was kind of like thinking about a song, and then the song that you were thinking about comes on the radio. I like the fact that it increases your options on the goal line without really having to sacrifice beef up front. In a traditional goal line set, it's pretty much the QB straight forward, or a running back straight ahead most of the time, and the defense usually has a pretty good idea of where the ball is going to go and who is going to get the ball. With the wishbone, you put two halfbacks back there, and they don't know who is going to get the ball, who is going to be lead blocking, if the TE is going to go out for a pass, if the QB is going to sneak it, if it's going to be an option play, or if the fullback is going to get it.
Now, if it's the fourth quarter and there are under 30 seconds, I'm going to call a run- pass option play to the right side of the formation- assuming a right handed QB with the TE going to the corner of the end zone and a WR/TE running some type of crossing route from the left side of the field to the right side of the field so that if the TE is covered, the QB has a second option , and if neither of those are there and he thinks that he can run it in, run for it, and if they defend it well, throw it away, and come back for fourth down.
On fourth down, I would go shotgun, five wide with four WR's to one side of the formation and the X on the other side, and have the X run a slant, and if they have him doubled on that side ( I think a slant would still probably work), I would call a screen to the side where the four WR's are to Chad Bumphis and let him work his magic.
If I'm Les Miles, I spike it on fourth down.
having a QB mobile enough to roll out of the pocket and have 3 receivers on that side of the field. One underneath, one toeing the line, and the other trying to find a hole to sit in... If it's not there, the QB should have the space to run it in
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With you Coach34, but would line up in the 3-back set with our badass fullback and our next best blocking back with Ballard as the 3rd back to block so he would keep the defense honest and go to strong side with Relf keeping the whole way. Would have Relf take under center so no mistakes on a shotgun snap and they would have to respect the full option. When it's there slam it in!!! GoState 3-0!!!!!
Dixon clearly crossed the goal line on 2nd down of that final series last year but it was never reviewed. I had it on my DVR and watched it a thousand times that next week, making me sick every time. Too bad the replay officials werent given DVR's.
On a serious note, 14 to the weak side, and stuff it down their inexperienced Defensive Lineman's throats. FYI LSU's starting strong side LB broke his jaw in this past weekends scrimmage and is expected to be out 4-6 weeks.
Side note: The last two days of practice have been similar to funerals here in the Rouge, since Zach Lee mysteriously left them for $5.25 mil and these idiots can't understand why. They are considering numerous QB options, and currently only have 2 scholarship QB's.
On a serious note, 14 to the weak side, and stuff it down their inexperienced Defensive Lineman's throats. FYI LSU's starting strong side LB broke his jaw in this past weekends scrimmage and is expected to be out 4-6 weeks.
Side note: The last two days of practice have been similar to funerals here in the Rouge, since Zach Lee mysteriously left them for $5.25 mil and these idiots can't understand why. They are considering numerous QB options, and currently only have 2 scholarship QB's.
I'd go with a double-tight set with 2 wideouts- one to each side...that leaves me in the shotgun with our FB and Relf...We are in a power set like we would be in the I-Formation, with the FB blocking for Relf- however, we also have 4 WR capability with the 2 WR's and the 2 TE's....Not to mention the FB can Flare out of the backfield and have to be covered by the MLB- no way he gets there thru the traffic, especially when we run crossing or pick routes
If the defense gives you a 6-3 look in the box, CB's locked up man on the WR's- you throw or run the power off the edges....don't forget how hard it would be for the OLB's to cover the TE's on play-action- would be like stealing
If the defense gives you a 5-4 look in the box- you run the inside power and make into the end zone easy after doubling the NG- or throw it
That set is unstoppable- draw it up sometime and have some fun with it- the possibilities are endless and makes scoring much easier than getting into the wishbone- too many backs in the backfield- the age of the 4 backs in the backfield is over- too easy to defend
If the defense gives you a 6-3 look in the box, CB's locked up man on the WR's- you throw or run the power off the edges....don't forget how hard it would be for the OLB's to cover the TE's on play-action- would be like stealing
If the defense gives you a 5-4 look in the box- you run the inside power and make into the end zone easy after doubling the NG- or throw it
That set is unstoppable- draw it up sometime and have some fun with it- the possibilities are endless and makes scoring much easier than getting into the wishbone- too many backs in the backfield- the age of the 4 backs in the backfield is over- too easy to defend