4 MC Players commit this weekend

Silver Rain

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MC is aiming for their 5th consecutive championship and seem to be getting stronger by the year.
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Last year's team was the most talented team ever in IL and they weren't seriously challenged
Not true. MOB got carried away.
only playing their A game once.
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I don't think 14 Tin Men is out of the question.
Theoretically possible but discounts ESL, Rice, Loyola, JCA, Providence, and Naz.
 

crusader_of_90

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If anyone can run table with shutouts MC would be the best chance - granted would be tough with playing reserves for a full quarter each game or letting up a long bomb that gets tipped. i do think Rice though will be able to score - they got a really strong OL and 2 solid TEs, Strang the WR and Davis RB that could find way into endzone.
If they can stymie the Flyers, they need to be in contention for a national title.
 
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Cross Bones

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Not true. MOB got carried away.

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Theoretically possible but discounts ESL, Rice, Loyola, JCA, Providence, and Naz.
Who was the most talented team ever than? Perhaps 2026 MC?

I am not saying they will clock everyone, but I think we are more likely to get their A game each week, and with the talent disparity between them and everyone else it's a recipe for disaster for everyone else.

Not discounting ESL, Rice, Loyola, JC, Provi, or Naz. Its the opposite I procount those schools especially ESL.
 

McCaravan

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Last time MC went for 5 in a row was 1992. They had 12 or 13 starters back and this up and coming QB named Donovan McNabb. They started the year by beating JCA 27-6 and were on cruise control the regular season and up to the semifinals where they met JCA again, the team they beat 27-6 in week 1....and lost 13-11.....it was a different time but the games still have to be played gents.
**true story I was in the Marines and it was 1992 so no internet. I was so confident they would beat JCA I didn't even call home to make sure. Monday of that week we get notified we were being sent to Somalia....Black Hawk Down country.....I call home to tell my parents and in shock I just told them to send me the papers on how MC does in the State Championship and my Dad said "You do know they lost right?" He figured I heard from a friend...he told me he sent me all the papers Tribs "Preps Plus" and Times Taylor Bell articles....we left and by the time that package got re-routed to Somila it was Christmas Eve, which I spent in Hells backyard reading how MC got upset 13-11.....not my favorite Christmas! 😂
 

Cross Bones

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I do think that this year's team has layers on layers of talent. I do think that they will be better, and probably much better, than the '25 Caravan.
This year's team is last year's team with a few different pieces. I think MOB was spot on. Matter of fact MC has rarely ever been "out-talented", I'd argue that since I've been following (early 90s) the most talented program has been MC easily. Thats by going 1 through 22 and seeing who's had the more talented roster plus depth. But now MC has managed to add the most high level recruits on top of that.

It's going to be tough sledding for anyone to come within 40. Im eager to watch this ESL game because if anyone can find a chink in the armor its The Flyers.

Meanwhile, im going to turn these Mt Prospect, WWS, MS, BB, and SCN games into a Rocky montage.
 
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pjjp

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It's going to be tough sledding for anyone to come within 40. Im eager to watch this ESL game because if anyone can find a chink in the armor its The Flyers.
I think Rice is the team with the best chance of beating MC. The D line should be dominant, and they have a lot more in the tank.
 

McCaravan

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Since their first State Title in 1980 there hasn't been one MC team that went undefeated that didn't have at least one scare or extremely tight game that went down to the wire or at least found them tied or trailing going into the 4th Q. Last years team had 3....well 3.5....beat Moeller on last play of the game, Tied with Fenwick in the 4th Q, round one of playoffs they were an incomplete pass in the endzone away from being knocked out by Loyola.....the .5 game was they were losing to LA in the 3rd Q in week 9.....I fully expect the same this year, let down games happen. These are teenagers, they will make mistakes.

ESL and BR can beat them based off the talent they have, especially playing @BR. They are playing a top team in NJ who is a returning State Champion who we here on this board know very little about. Naz is stockpiling players, they got the scrappy Fenwick Friars on the road, then after that 8 week grind they get Loyola in week 9. You think Holecek is going to have them so unprepared they lose by 40? C'mon.
 

Cross Bones

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I think Rice is the team with the best chance of beating MC. The D line should be dominant, and they have a lot more in the tank.
after watching last year's game I came away with them not having the personnel or imagination to score enough points where someone like Fenwick was more equipped to score.
 

Cross Bones

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Since their first State Title in 1980 there hasn't been one MC team that went undefeated that didn't have at least one scare or extremely tight game that went down to the wire or at least found them tied or trailing going into the 4th Q. Last years team had 3....well 3.5....beat Moeller on last play of the game, Tied with Fenwick in the 4th Q, round one of playoffs they were an incomplete pass in the endzone away from being knocked out by Loyola.....the .5 game was they were losing to LA in the 3rd Q in week 9.....I fully expect the same this year, let down games happen. These are teenagers, they will make mistakes.

ESL and BR can beat them based off the talent they have, especially playing @BR. They are playing a top team in NJ who is a returning State Champion who we here on this board know very little about. Naz is stockpiling players, they got the scrappy Fenwick Friars on the road, then after that 8 week grind they get Loyola in week 9. You think Holecek is going to have them so unprepared they lose by 40? C'mon.
There is a 40 ppg (at least) talent difference between MC and opponents. Now whether Sunkett or Holecek outcoaches Lynch to close that gap is a different question. I am expecting to see more MC from the quarterfinals than MC from rd 1.
 

SiuCubFan8

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There is a 40 ppg (at least) talent difference between MC and opponents. Now whether Sunkett or Holecek outcoaches Lynch to close that gap is a different question. I am expecting to see more MC from the quarterfinals than MC from rd 1.
I’m not buying a 40pt talent difference between MC and ESL or BR for that matter.
 
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LWN_Pheonix

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MC has not chosen a QB yet… and you guys think that they are clocking everyone

whatever you are injesyijg, please pass it mt way

ESL score will be within 2 touchdowns and the result might be the motivation for the rest of the season
 

Cross Bones

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I’m not buying a 40pt talent difference between MC and ESL or BR for that matter.
Sounds crazy, I know. But MC is like John Bosco on Maxwell polishes instead of avocado toast when it comes to ESL. And Rice we know about the DL, but what other position group is comparable?
 

Silver Rain

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We know that Cross Bones has a cross bones tattoo on his heart if not his hide. We know that he is a longtime student of the game. And we Carmel guys appreciate his support. However, MOB wrote a column full of hype, and the Caravan didn't live up to it. The best team of all time? Maine South may have something to say about that. LA, WWS, and Glenbard West all have a claim to the title. As do many other teams, including, near the front of the line, JCA and ESL. And we would be remiss if we didn't at least mention the '63 Mustangs.
 
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Cross Bones

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I don’t know, I was replying to the original point you made regarding position groups not matchups.
Did they score enough points to win? That might be the 1st clue that can help determine how they did.
We know that Cross Bones has a cross bones tattoo on his heart if not his hide. We know that he is a longtime student of the game. And we Carmel guys appreciate his support. However, MOB wrote a column full of hype, and the Caravan didn't live up to it. The best team of all time? Maine South may have something to say about that. LA, WWS, and Glenbard West all have a claim to the title. As do many other teams, including, near the front of the line, JCA and ESL. And we would be remiss if we didn't at least mention the '63 Mustangs.
Hey there this isnt support, this is fair and balanced reporting. Right now the team is the most talented, but they have the opportunity to be the best ever should they dominate their schedule the way we all anticipate they will.

A ⏰️ over ESL who goes on to beat their highly rated national opponents and make a run at the 7A crown.

A ⏰️ over SJR who goes on to dominate their highly regarded schedule including conference which is like the Catholic Blue on the stuff Mark McGwire was on.

A ⏰️ against 7A champ Rice who defeats LWE and makes a 7A run likely to play ESL.

A ⏰️ against Loyola who is probably the #2 8A team and who will toss the Indiana "Loyola" like theyre playing a game of corn hole.

Then to ⏰️ the 8A playoffs including Loyola again, defending runners up Oswego, et al.

Its going to be hard to argue against. I dont know about shutting out every team though. That seems unlikely.
 
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SiuCubFan8

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Did they score enough points to win? That might be the 1st clue that can help determine how they did.
I didn't watch the game so I'm not going to make assumptions off of a score. And we are talking about 2026 not last year. Yes, I am aware there are some of the same players.

Again, if we want to switch the conversation to a MC v BR positional match up ok, but that was not the statement you made. You made a statement, I gave an example, then you changed the statement/question.
 

Cross Bones

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I didn't watch the game so I'm not going to make assumptions off of a score. And we are talking about 2026 not last year. Yes, I am aware there are some of the same players.

Again, if we want to switch the conversation to a MC v BR positional match up ok, but that was not the statement you made. You made a statement, I gave an example, then you changed the statement/question.
I asked what position group was comparable. Then when I compared them you pushed back. I am confused.
 

SiuCubFan8

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I asked what position group was comparable. Then when I compared them you pushed back. I am confused.
I told you what positional group was comparable, IMO. Then you asked how they matchup to MCs D line and pointed to 2025. I don't know, I didn't watch the game. Comparing BRs OL match up with MCs DL is different than comparing BRs OL and MCs OL (which is what comparing positional groups would mean).
 
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Topiarydan1

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I told you what positional group was comparable, IMO. Then you asked how they matchup to MCs D line and pointed to 2025. I don't know, I didn't watch the game. Comparing BRs OL match up with MCs DL is different than comparing BRs OL and MCs OL (which is what comparing positional groups would mean).
Rice's OL has Posey - committed to Miami of Ohio, Rios who transferred in from DePaul is a Sr who is committed to San Diego State, Rios' Lil Brother who came in from DePaul who started there, Frazier who started half the games last year and Houlf a Junior who will start at G or C and has 10 D1 offers. McNamara Jr and another Sr returner are dual TEs in running situations. Anderson is a 6'7 320 Soph who will get reps and has 2 offers. Rice has some big nasties and should be solid
 
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godfthr53

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I'm not questioning your memory or your math, but I had to look it up because, like everyone here, I love the history of this great game as much as its present. The Roadrunners won their first state title--also Racki's first at the school--in 2014 with an undefeated 14-0 season. But it doesn't look like Naz had 10 or 11 running clocks. As far as I can tell, six or seven is probably more like it. But hey, who's counting? It was still a great season with an impressive number of blowouts. And I may be wrong. The record isn't entirely forthcoming.
those ones you aren't counting were clocks and then backups came in and gave up points. Would have to go back to the tapes but trying to think back I think it was 10.
 
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USD24

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those ones you aren't counting were clocks and then backups came in and gave up points. Would have to go back to the tapes but trying to think back I think it was 10.
In looking at box scores from that year, it appears the most they could have had was 7. During the regular season, they never led by 40 points in the following games
MCC
Benet
JC
Marist
Viator

In the playoffs, the never led by 40 points in the following games
Lake Forest
Lemont

I couldn't find the box scores for Boylen or King, but based on the final scores, it is feasible that they were running clocks at some point.

I am not discounting how good that team was. I saw them play on a couple occasions and they were pretty darn good.
 
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UsuallyRight57

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Mark my words

Brother Rice heard the MC crowd calling them “sister rice” on the walk to the bus last year.
Brother Rice plans on lowering the visiter stands and additional inch and will upset the MC team

East St Louis will have to play penalty free football…
St Edwards is laughing about the 3QB triple option offense that is rumored to take the field

Naz… is due to clip the MC wings

Marist… there is a poster on here that says that they are the pre season #1

Do you think that MC can beat Loyola 2x in the same season again?!?!!

Stop this nonsense

last years team was supposed to clock everyone and they struggled to gell
Any truth to MC getting a 2027 TE from Andrean in crown point? I know they were a loaded TE room, I remember seeing a post they have 3 D1 TEs, this kid may have been the odd man out. I wanna say the other 2 are 2028s.
Also on the reverse end, did Andrean get transfers in from MC and Rice? Heard one from each school.
 

MC_Caravan

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MC folks…you think Lynch is off to NIU after winning title #5?
Personally, no. He’s got a great gig going for him and his family. I believe he has 5 littles under the age of 10 (might be wrong), and his schedule allows him to be present in their lives while being the highest paid employee at MC and not carrying a duel role (he only coaches football). That completely changes at the next level…I think if he was going to leave for NIU it would have happened this year following Hammock’s resignation. And I forget which publisher shared it but there’s an article where he essentially says he’s not going anywhere.
 
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Topiarydan1

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Any truth to MC getting a 2027 TE from Andrean in crown point? I know they were a loaded TE room, I remember seeing a post they have 3 D1 TEs, this kid may have been the odd man out. I wanna say the other 2 are 2028s.
Also on the reverse end, did Andrean get transfers in from MC and Rice? Heard one from each school.
Yes Rice lost a very good WR rising Junior who had some catches on Varsity as Soph. Kid also great baseball player. However he lives in Portage so can't blame the did wanting to save 30 minutes each way. Also I know Rice also just lost a rising Junior RB-DB to Laurence.
 

UsuallyRight57

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Yes Rice lost a very good WR rising Junior who had some catches on Varsity as Soph. Kid also great baseball player. However he lives in Portage so can't blame the did wanting to save 30 minutes each way. Also I know Rice also just lost a rising Junior RB-DB to Laurence.
That kid was a stud. I remember him freshman year. Didn’t they have a stud from new Lenox too who transferred or just stuck to baseball? That kid singly handily beat Rita his freshman year
 

4Afan

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Personally, no. He’s got a great gig going for him and his family. I believe he has 5 littles under the age of 10 (might be wrong), and his schedule allows him to be present in their lives while being the highest paid employee at MC and not carrying a duel role (he only coaches football). That completely changes at the next level…I think if he was going to leave for NIU it would have happened this year following Hammock’s resignation. And I forget which publisher shared it but there’s an article where he essentially says he’s not going anywhere.

The answer is money, the answer is always money. NIU's current coach was hired in February and is still labeled as an interim coach so he will only likely be there for one season.

 

MC_Caravan

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Any truth to MC getting a 2027 TE from Andrean in crown point? I know they were a loaded TE room, I remember seeing a post they have 3 D1 TEs, this kid may have been the odd man out. I wanna say the other 2 are 2028s.
Also on the reverse end, did Andrean get transfers in from MC and Rice? Heard one from each school.

The answer is money, the answer is always money. NIU's current coach was hired in February and is still labeled as an interim coach so he will only likely be there for one season.


This conversation has been going on every season for the past 5+ years and he hasn’t left so I hope it stays that way and roll caravan!
 

McCaravan

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Any truth to MC getting a 2027 TE from Andrean in crown point? I know they were a loaded TE room, I remember seeing a post they have 3 D1 TEs, this kid may have been the odd man out. I wanna say the other 2 are 2028s.
Also on the reverse end, did Andrean get transfers in from MC and Rice? Heard one from each school.
MC hasn't used a TE in the traditional sense maybe 2021 when they had some on the roster from Lenti's era. They will welcome in another tuition and maybe have a couple TE packages installed but if you are a traditional every down TE your at the wrong school with the amount of WRs they have at the school.
 

McCaravan

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Yes Rice lost a very good WR rising Junior who had some catches on Varsity as Soph. Kid also great baseball player. However he lives in Portage so can't blame the did wanting to save 30 minutes each way. Also I know Rice also just lost a rising Junior RB-DB to Laurence.
30 min? Portage to Pulaski is 40 min without traffic, gotta be a 75 min ride in traffic.

The Junior going to Laurence's Dad was an excellent LB at MC, unfortunately he is on his second school and neither have been MC.