45-0 Eggbowl win for UM

[BehrDawg]

I had an interesting conversation this weekend with a good friend of mine about the 45-0 skull dragging we were handed by UM. He brought it up after I argued him to no other point of how much more our program seems to be excelling over their program. When he brought that up, I told him it was the worst thing that has ever happened to UM.He couldn't understand how I could possibly say that in the largest rout of the series, which then prompted me to make sense of it for him.

If you think about it, that one win is what awoke our athletic department and fan base. Compared to UM, since that game, we have been a steamroller in making progressive steps forward and turning from the "Walrus days" to the "ourstate days". We have whipped their asses twice in a row now and will make it a third this year. Also, we have the upper hand on the coach and the progressive movement in our football program. We have stepped up and now we haveHUGE private donations, stadium expansion, indoor practice facility, and a fan base that refuses to accept mediocrity. What does UM have right now? A couple of recruiting championships, red plaid slacks, and a chandelier in the grove?

Not sure if this is German, but I do not believe I have ever seen this discussed on 6pack before.

What say you?

 

[windcrysmary]

opposite directions indeed... does any other school have a mascot that in no way shape form or fashion resemble their name or history/heritage? it seems they are in total re-branding mode while we are just building our foundation that has always been there....

didn't work for memphis state, not working for the other UM

 

[Incognegro]

does any other school have a mascot that in no way shape form or fashion resemble their name or history/heritage?

or just for a little laugh UAB Dragon's possibly? I know nothing of these teams history but they would be the main ones I'd consider as possible candidates <div>
</div><div>To stay on topic.... I can see what you're saying and can agree. If Croom had...some how beaten Ole Miss... there is no doubt that would have saved his job. It's depressing to think about how little of excitement we'd currently have not just for these past few seasons but for the future going forward. They helped us get out of a rutt, but if we give Nutt's team similar beating...there's also the possibility that we may do the same for them because I do not see him surviving another season if he loses to us and LSU again and has another losing season.</div><div>
</div><div>Here's to hoping they hire someone just as incompetent as he is.</div>

 

[BehrDawg]

since they are so above us and smarter than the"farmers".

 

[prairiedawg]

But history has shown the success of the two programs tends to wax and wane based on circumstances,etc. Hopefully this latest upswing will buck the trend and we stay on top for a while.

 

[ColMuldrow]

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</div><div>If Croom had...some how beaten Ole Miss... there is no doubt that would have saved his job. It's depressing to think about how little of excitement we'd currently have not just for these past few seasons but for the future going forward.</div>

If we had been competitive in that game, much less victorious, I don't know that Croom would have been fired at the end of the 2008 season. I'm not sure Mullen would have been around for hiring the next year and I'm just not sure how many other coaches would have been the "right fit" at the "right time" like I believe Mullen has turned out to be. <div>
</div><div>Blessings come disguised all kinds of different ways. </div>

 

[jbulldog]

I was hoping UM would beat the crap out of us so we would finally make a change. Make a change we did.</p>

 

[msugradawg]

You can take it one step further if you want...in '04 when we beat UFspelled the end of Zook which brought in Meyer and Mullen to UF... so even in a Crooms win, he had his first foot in the grave.... the Egg Bowl loss was just the final nail in the coffin

 

[Stormrider81]

While MSU is trying to build something substantial that will last, the Bears are doing the same things they've always done and that is do it with gimmicks. They hired Cut to get Eli because they thought having Eli would elevate their program long term. Didn't work. Instead, all it did was help them during his career. They hired Orgeron - again a complete gimmick. He failed to noone's surprise so they hired Nutt. They struck gold, right. Nope. The plan was to hire O and if he failed at least he would recruit talent. Then they could hire a coach with a clue to win with that talent and use that to recruit more great players. Again, it didn't work. It was a gimmick. They won back to back Cotton Bowls, but that is all they have to show for the Orgeron years and all those great players. The guy they hired has never built a sustained winner. He wins by getting one or two great players and riding them for the duration of their careers. Look at QB. They have nothing to replace Snead so they bend the rules to get Masoli. That doesn't work, so they essentially try to do the same thing again. Their QB scenario is a huge mess and always will be. OM, while Nutt is there, will be on this year to year roller coaster ride. That's what drove Arkansas over the cliff with him and it will eventually drive the Bears to the same spot. When they fire Nutt, they will try another gimmick to get back to their glory days and it will predictably fail.

MSU has been guilty of much the same. We hired Croom as a gimmick thinking a black coach could bring in the young black athletes we needed. It was a gimmick. It failed. Now we have a serious administration that knows you can't build on gimmicks. I'm not saying we are going to become an elite SEC program, but I'm much less concerned with us than I would be with OM long term. They will continue the gimmicks and continue to fail.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

prairiedawg]But history has shown the success of the two programs tends to wax and wane based on circumstances,etc. Hopefully this latest upswing will buck the trend and we stay on top for a while.

This time, Ole Miss is showing that it can no longer compete in major college sports. They need to drop to Division II and then spend their money on rebuilding their shattered academic programs.

 

[maroonmania]

the 45-0 game allowed us to make the changes that we needed happen much faster. However, even without that, I still feel that Byrne and Stricklin would have eventually made the positive changes needed but we likely would have had to suffer under Croom for one more year. I just don't feel that the combination of Byrne, Keenum and Stricklin could have put up with the incompetence of the Croom regime much more than about one more year regardless.

 

[TBagger.sixpack]

nm</p>

 

[Indndawg]

and most fans was expecting at least a good offensive show. It was like the team collectively said "we're gonna win our last home game and 17 our lazy, fatass coach"

I certainly didn't expect the drubbing we took. I knew when The Ninja walked hurriedly off the field, didn't take time to say anything to Golfcart-something was up.

Many, many ppl on here doubted that Byrne would pull the trigger. I guess we were so used to the "give him one more season" bit and "he's too young to be firing a coach". I loved it and Doc set the tone by canning Lonnie earlier........

I remember OM fans saying MSU looked like they didn't try, they looked fat and unmotivated....I said...the fish rots from the head downward. Yes, it was the best loss MSU has ever had

 

[Todd4State]

was that Byrne had decided to fire Croom after we lost to UK that year. Byrne wanted a progressive coach that promoted MSU and was going to bring excitement to MSU. Obviously, that's Dan Mullen. Let's not forget about Croom talking about Bear Bryant all the time and talking about how great Alabama was.

If we had beaten Ole Miss, it would not have mattered- we still would have finished 5-7, and Croom would have been fired. Losing to Ole Miss, and losing the way we did just made things a lot easier for Byrne- but it was going to happen anyway. And as far as Arkansas- they had a losing season that year and were rebuilding. Not really a great win. Fun win, yes. But not really one you can hang your hat on. Plus, it was very unlikely that we were going to beat Ole Miss that year. They were as hot as a firecracker on the 4th of July.

If we had finished the year beating Arkansas and beating Ole Miss, you just would have had more people questioning the decision to fire Croom because of the fact that we finished strong and were one year removed from a bowl season. But Byrne wouldn't have cared very much. See how Byrne handled Ron Polk and the baseball coaching change for reference.

 

[Dawgzilla]

But I can tell you for a fact that Ninja and Grasshopper spent the second half of that UMiss game securing the money needed for Croom's buyout, and scheduled a meeting for that evening to get the ball rolling on a coaching search. That meeting would not have taken place that evening but for the drubbing in Oxford.

 

[bbdawg1]

If you consider winning 2 of 3 in baseball a "win", we are undefeated in the 3 major sports in Oxford since 45-0. 1 win in football, 3 wins in men's basketball and 2 series win there in baseball.

"Our State"!

 

[Shmuley]

worried that the incompetent pos might have salvaged his ***. I hate him eve more for putting me in that position after a f'n win

 

[DirtyLopez]

to buy out croom before the egg bowl which would logically mean the kentucky loss sealed it for him as far as byrne was concerned. He knew what the rest of us did concerning croom. Byrne needed to put his stamp on the program anyway.

 

[The Usual Suspect]

A good friend of mine from LSU and I watch a lot of Football together. He has mentioned several times that Dinardo, including the loss to us at the end of the game,is one of the best things that ever happened to LSU, made them go out and get Saban. By the way, it was an AD change and President change at LSU that facilitated that hire also. He has mentioned many times that he wonders if our RB had not been rule in the endzone on that 4th down, would they have fired Dinardo that season.

 

[vhdawg]

Seems to me that we've won four straight.

 

[BillFremp]

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