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Sadly, I think every Cards fan knew what was gonna play out. Coaches preach finishing games - unfortunately Satt needs to learn this himself. It ain’t working.
 
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Malik played his *** off but to win you have to make plays when they are there. He missed three long throws and in the second half was 3 of 8 throwing the ball. We had the potential to put NC State on the ropes and just couldn’t make the play.
 
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I think the plain truth is that we are a mediocre team, playing in a mediocre league with a mediocre coach. The question is if this mediocre coach can bat above his mediocre average.
 

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Fortunately, we’re a very young mediocre team. Out of 53 players listed on the offensive and defensive depth charts for this game, only 8 are seniors (4 on offense and 4 on defense). And of those 8, only 4 are listed as starters: Bentley at center, Josh Johnson at WR, Avery at LB and Quinterrio Cole at safety.

It’s frustrating to watch at times, but I like a lot of the development I see from many young players.
 
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They just don’t make the plays necessary to win games. Another missed FG, penalties at the wrong time, dropped passes and interceptions. It all leads to losses.

The game plan was to go over the top. Unfortunately Malik is incredibly inconsistent. It is really hard to win games with average to bad qb play.
 

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Malik is very skilled, but he really struggles seeing his receiving options in or out of the pocket. 17 incompletions out of 28 attempts explains the poor 13 point performance. The OL penalties are inexcusable. Lastly, this is a very young team that shows brief periods of some really good football, but the inconsistency is the difference from winning and losing.
 

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We all tend to immediately blame the coaches but at the end of the day their job is to put the players in the position to win games. They have done that. It is up to the players to make the plays.

QB play isn’t good enough in the passing game. It leads to uneven performances. It is almost impossible to win games with the kind of inconsistency in the passing game. The play calls were good execution not so much. Deep shots were there only hit 1.

Defense was really good. Their QB made some really good throws under pressure.
Through 3 Qtrs they have been really good then they fall apart. They do stupid things like all college teams do. The only TD I thought was a gift was the slant. Easy read and not sure what CB or Brown was thinking on that coverage. The other TD was just a really nice design.

Not sure QB play is good enough to win against Clemson or UK. Syracuse has the same attacking style on defense making that game a toss up.
 
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We all tend to immediately blame the coaches but at the end of the day their job is to put the players in the position to win games. They have done that. It is up to the players to make the plays.

QB play isn’t good enough in the passing game. It leads to uneven performances. It is almost impossible to win games with the kind of inconsistency in the passing game. The play calls were good execution not so much. Deep shots were there only hit 1.

Defense was really good. Their QB made some really good throws under pressure.
Through 3 Qtrs they have been really good then they fall apart. They do stupid things like all college teams do. The only TD I thought was a gift was the slant. Easy read and not sure what CB or Brown was thinking on that coverage. The other TD was just a really nice design.

Not sure QB play is good enough to win against Clemson or UK. Syracuse has the same attacking style on defense making that game a toss up.All
All true. We outrushed them 215-45. Gotta make plays when the dagger play is there.
 

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Is Louisville 7-1 with Leary, Armstrong, Gabriel, or Hartman? Just asking.

Something else NC State did this twice for big plays. They threw to the running back on a slow release. The ball crosses the line of scrimmage. They had lineman downfield blocking how is that not illegal lineman downfield. Freaking drives me nuts but maybe I am wrong.
 

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Is Louisville 7-1 with Leary, Armstrong, Gabriel, or Hartman? Just asking.

Something else NC State did this twice for big plays. They threw to the running back on a slow release. The ball crosses the line of scrimmage. They had lineman downfield blocking how is that not illegal lineman downfield. Freaking drives me nuts but maybe I am wrong.

On those screen plays our defensive linemen need to realize they aren’t getting pressure and then stop their penetration. Also, on 3rd and long the defense has to recognize that a screen or draw is a real possibility. That being said they were well executed screens and well timed.
 

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I stand corrected. I rewatched it perfectly timed. It was caught right on the line of scrimmage.
 

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I thought that Malik was a victim of targeting on the one play where he was hit around the 5 yard line, but was able to spin and get to the 3 yard line before going out of bounds. He was very upset after the play when he went to the sidelines, but there was no penalty and I do not recall the ACC color analyst even mentioning the possibility of targeting.

Did anyone else see it that way, or am I mistaken?
 

PushupMan

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You are not mistaken. Malik did lower his head, but the NC State defender hit him in the head with both arms extended. Essentially an open-fisted punch.

It was pretty much the textbook definition of “A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.”

I can only assume that the refs missed it. Or else they thought Malik initiated it by leading with his helmet.

Either way, the play was dirty and dangerous.
 
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So the question is, why did this team get 1 TD entire game with that type of rushing production? The dagger, as MC referenced.

I'd consider flipping the rotation, I think Cooley is your home run hitter and warrants more than 6 touches. I'd also, as others suggested, use RBs more in the passing game. 2-15 on RB receiving stats, that's putrid IMO, especially with Hall's skillset and he caught 1 pass.

As stated by many, way too many QB runs. He's popping under 5 yards per, so it's not like he's breaking off big runs. His long was 14 yards.
 

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So the question is, why did this team get 1 TD entire game with that type of rushing production? The dagger, as MC referenced.

I'd consider flipping the rotation, I think Cooley is your home run hitter and warrants more than 6 touches. I'd also, as others suggested, use RBs more in the passing game. 2-15 on RB receiving stats, that's putrid IMO, especially with Hall's skillset and he caught 1 pass.

As stated by many, way too many QB runs. He's popping under 5 yards per, so it's not like he's breaking off big runs. His long was 14 yards.
1TD because Malik missed 3 long throws that were TD’s if he makes them.

I don’t know whether it was windy in Raleigh or not, but Malik’s passing on those long throws was not what it has been most of the rest of this season.
 

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Sadly, I think every Cards fan knew what was gonna play out. Coaches preach finishing games - unfortunately Satt needs to learn this himself. It ain’t working.
I think you're overreacting. It's not like Satt has never had a second half or 4th quarter let down before....

 

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1TD because Malik missed 3 long throws that were TD’s if he makes them.

I don’t know whether it was windy in Raleigh or not, but Malik’s passing on those long throws was not what it has been most of the rest of this season.

Hasselback said a bunch of stupid stuff but he was completely right about Malik needing to throw the ball to the hash. Our receivers had a step and better position on those three missed long throws.
 
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So how bout that corner throw where Ford kind of one handed it down the field? That was a great throw/catch. There were 2 defenders down there. I think ya gotta be willing to let your guys make plays for you.

But I don't see the entire field.
 
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If Malik would flatten out the trajectory on his long throws and lead his WR they would have won that game. It looked like somebody punted the ball for 50/50 jump balls. The WRs had to stop wait on the ball and jump for it. And if there is no one to instruct him to do that that’s pathetic. And I suspect no one did because he kept doing that .
 

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Malik was off...pretty simple really...it happens. The sports Psychologist in me has some theories; he get's a little consumed with poor performances and may force some things...creates a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts. I'm probably over analyzing him, that slip on the final play though on top of the missed opportunities. He gives it everything, super skilled, has a professional approach...so much good stuff, I feel bad for him that it was a bad night...get over it Malik! (like he reads this).
 
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A few observations: first, I am not sure that it mattered whether it was Cooley, Mitchell or Hall who were running the football, as there is ample evidence that all three have had games and individual series where they exhibited equal success. We lost the game against NCST as a result of 17 out of 28 passing attempts going incomplete. One could argue that 28 attempts were too many, but I would rather point to the selection of the routes that Malik was trying to connect. Malik appears far more effective throwing the short and mid-range slant routes over the more vertical ones, where he can see more of the open field.

Satterfield would do himself, Malik and Card fans alike a huge favor, if he watched the UK vs MSU game replay and witness how QB Will Rogers was able to complete 33 out of 38 passing attempts.

MSU HC Mike Leach executed an excellent offensive game plan by utilizing high percentage passing routes that fit perfectly with Rogers’ comfort and skill set. It was reminiscent of how CBP utilized Stefan Lefors in his offense.
 

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I tend to agree especially against good fronts you have to get the ball out quickly. By all means take your shots but the entire passing game plan can’t be deep shots only. I was confused on why they didn’t attack their young linebackers in the passing game.
 
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Hasselback said a bunch of stupid stuff but he was completely right about Malik needing to throw the ball to the hash. Our receivers had a step and better position on those three missed long throws.
^^^^^This^^^^^
 

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Here’s why Satterfield is not a good play caller. State knows our bread and butter is the running game including containing Malik. Satterfield did not make any adjustments to what they were giving us and taking away and Malik could not execute.
 

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Here’s why Satterfield is not a good play caller. State knows our bread and butter is the running game including containing Malik. Satterfield did not make any adjustments to what they were giving us and taking away and Malik could not execute.
The adjustment he made was to throw the ball deep. Receivers were open (wide open), but Malik’s uncharacteristic inaccuracy in this game, along with his unwillingness to “throw the receiver open” as Hasselbeck stated during the broadcast, prevented us from making at least 3 big plays.
 
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The adjustment he made was to throw the ball deep. Receivers were open (wide open), but Malik’s uncharacteristic inaccuracy in this game, along with his unwillingness to “throw the receiver open” as Hasselbeck stated during the broadcast, prevented us from making at least 3 big plays.
Exactly. As one poster stated, there was no wind. The stadium is closed on either end, I was there. His throws were ducks, jump balls in every case. You know and see that and you make an adjustment.
 
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PUMan:

if this staff will review the routes that Malik has thrown this year, they will see what so many of us recognize ….. Cunningham needs to confine his passing routes to those that fit his capabilities.
 
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If you want to limit him to only throwing short passing routes, then UofL will become very easy to defend. It would be very hard to find any one open, or any open running space with all 11 defenders within 15 yards of the LOS.

I’m sure that if that was the answer, then Malik wouldn’t be a quarterback at this level at all.
 
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If you want to limit him to only throwing short passing routes, then UofL will become very easy to defend. It would be very hard to find any one open, or any open running space with all 11 defenders within 15 yards of the LOS.

I’m sure that if that was the answer, then Malik wouldn’t be a quarterback at this level at all.
Malik missed those throws (at this level).
 

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You know the definition of insanity is....doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Play calling inside the 4 for the last 4 downs for example. Insane. Hero ball didn't work again.
 

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From David Hale:

In the past 2 years, Louisville has lost five games in which it was tied or ahead in the fourth quarter. Among P5 teams, only Texas has more (6, including 3 in the past month).