5 classifications
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The main reasoning for going to five is due to the disparity from the largerst to smallest schools in 1A and 4A with an even split of teams in each classification.
That would be terrible and probably won't happen. Andrews has 200 kids and would have to play vs schools 3x as big while 2a would be close enrollments. 2a should be 500 to 800 or 450 to 800.
I don't know if there is any kind of system that 75% of the schools would agree on .I read somewhere that it did take 75% of the schools to agree to a change now I don't know if that indeed is true, but I would like to see 8 classifications with there being no more than a 200 student gap from largest to smallest school it's the only fair way to do it.for example if you did 5 classes a school like Mountain Heritage would have no chance ever winning a state title we have about 600 students and there's no way we should have to play schools like Shelby in the playoffs a gap of 300 students is way to many especially the schools that have less than a 1000 students now for the bigger schools the 300 student gap is not so bad a school with say 1800 students can compete easier which a school with 2100 than a school with 600 can compete with a school with 900..it just seems to me like ever proposal I see will not be good for any school that has just enough students to miss being 1a for example one proposal I read has class 2 being 600 to 900 students I'm sorry but Mountain Heritage has no business of having to play Shelby and teams there size in the playoffs.it tough enough the way it is now, having to play Readsville ever year especially with the weak conference there in they are guaranteed to get home field advantage thru out the playoffs..it's almost impossible to beat them on there home field plus there one dame good football team..Reidsville can not help they play in a weak conference.Mountain Heritage also for the past couple of years played in a weak conference besides Mitchell and sence Hendersonville got put in Mountain 6 conference also Owen and Polk County have been down but they both have good tridition and will be back..i just hope if change is coming that is does not make it worse on some of us smaller schools but no matter what change we get you will have schools that benefits and schools that will suffer I kinda wish it stays the same we all have witnessed some very competitive state championship games last few years especially last year all 4 games I watched were awesome games that came down to very end why take a chance of screwing that up..
600 vs 900 isn't as bad as 200 to 500.
Both are 300 difference. 50% vs 150%
200-500 is like 600-1500 percentage wise.
Both are 300 difference. 50% vs 150%
200-500 is like 600-1500 percentage wise.
In my mind, the simplest solution would be 4 classes, split 25%, and subdivide 1a and 4a. That would help with the geographical issues of conference alignment, the playoff classes would have more even parity, and 6 titles, which is what everyone seems to want.
The only problem with that is, 2a and 3a schools will be big babies about it, and demand they get split classes too, just like in 2002.
The only problem with that is, 2a and 3a schools will be big babies about it, and demand they get split classes too, just like in 2002.
I have read this but I do not think 75% of the schools are required to vote for a certain realignment structure. The Board of Directors vote and then the schools can appeal.
I 100% expect 2A, 3A, and 4A to subdivide for football resulting in the same number of championships that are currently contested.
As a Tarboro fan, I would really love to see our program back in 2A. It would put a lot more strength on our schedule and put us back into a conference rivalry with SW Edgecombe. No offense to most of the teams in 1A, but the 42-point running clock game after game is not exactly entertaining.
I think the divisions will still be based on percentage rather than a fixed number. If it is a 20% per level, then 1A and 5A (old 4A)will stay the same. I also believe they will either subdivide all classes or none of them.
It will be percentage based. Going to five classes with an even number of teams does not meet the objective of moving away from four classifications which is disparity in enrollment numbers from largest to smallest classification member.
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It would be fun to get Tarboro and WRH together again, though I'd certainly like a different outcome next time.
Would you want to have four round playoffs with 32 teams qualifying or add 16 (from the current 58) to 64 and go five rounds with no bye?
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Sounds like everyone wants the cut-off just above their number lol
When you come up with the numbers that you think are good for 1A you have to consider how those numbers will work out for the other three classes.
I like a percentage of teams in each class and not a set number. 1A and 5A at 12.5% and the other classes at 25%. For football only 2A, 3A, and 4A subdivide. 1A would be about equivalent to small 1A and 5A would be the current 4AA numbers.
If they are not going to do it fir this alignment and that is how it looks they have to start looking at realignment after the upcoming one on how to split non traditional schools and 1A. Defining a non traditional will be the interesting part.
Isn’t that just semantics? Sounds like it would be just going back to the four classes, with 25% each, and subdividing each class. They would just be called something else.
1A having 12.5% and 5A having 12.5% changes non football sports especially for 4A. We are football centric but the board needs to think about more than football.
Once again, NCHSAA offered a separate football only alignment option (alignment before current one) and the schools were overwhelmingly against it. “Too complicated. Would hurt historical rivalries. Would hurt overall sport rivalries.”
My preference is Football alignment done separate breaking down to six playoff divisions based on that school years ADM with no basis on their current classification. I have explained it here before.
The non football would have five classes with the fifth class being 1A non traditional to include district schools that allow out of district students to play sports.
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Do not know the answer. Some schools are limited such as a one school county. The question for me is are some schools a different caliber of team because of non district students? When a player talks about how he made the move from one school in the county to another and he is now playing on a dominant title team where he is not the only one is an issue. Why just target charters when others are doing the same thing.
I have no issue where a student goes to school. On the 1A level it is a difference maker and if there can be a separate division for charter/magnets/Parochial make is all encompassing. In football move them to 2A as there will not be a separate division due to limited numbers.
I believe there should be exceptions such as the parent works at the school. If a neighboring district does not offer a sport the student should be allowed to play at the school that does to include any spurts they choose. If a student lived in the district through first semester of their junior year they should be allowed to finish their high school career there.
It would be the same amount of championships, but there would be some subtle differences. The small end of 1A and 4A are at a serious competitive disadvantage to the top half. In 2A and 3A, the bottom half is not nearly as noncompetitive and thus the entire classification has a realistic chance at winning. I think its a pretty good idea. In 1A specifically, it gives lower half a fighting chance to compete against schools their own size.
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Can you petition to play up in NC? I lived in TN for several years and this was allowed and it happened often it seemed like. Which most were just moving up to stay away from Alcoa lol.
It has happened in the past. It would be a case by case basis.
Cardinal Gibbons was allowed to move from 3A to 4A mid alignment. They had 4A enrollment due to their contuined growth.
They could probably petition up if there was a compelling case and ADMs were trending that way. Aside from football, Tarboro is just another 1A size athletic program and the ADM numbers are showing no sign of going up anytime soon.
Yeah, Tarboro's adm's are trending down. They are just a 1a school, that happens to have an overabundance of talent. No smoke and mirrors, cant knock them for that...
I wasn't knocking them. If the fans and community think its just too easy in 1a look for a way to move up.
I think it is outrageous for a team that is capable of winning in a higher bracket to play down a size.
Play in the classification that your enrollment places you.