5 point shift in the line in two days.....

[Ole Miss Grad]

Now 18.

Huge change.

Seems to me like something is up and it's not just to even the money.

Somebody spill it. I'm interested to see the answers.

 

[Ole Miss Grad]

Now 18.

Huge change.

Seems to me like something is up and it's not just to even the money.

Somebody spill it. I'm interested to see the answers.

 

[dawgstudent]

[No message]

 

[Ole Miss Grad]

I may take MSU and hopefully win both ways.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

plus there can't be many games Friday, and days that have only a game or two tend to get a lot of action

 

[dawgstudent]

I didn't even read your post - only read the title and assumed it went to 8. I have no clue what's up but for the line to jump that much is crazy.

 

[josebrown]

Crooms will be on the sidelines Friday.

 

[El Diablo Blanco]

that it takes about $500,000, to shift the line a point.

This means everybody, and I mean everybody, is betting the Rebs

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

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[OMlawdog]

18 points is just crazy. Im not sure we were that big of favorites in 2003.

I still think this game is close.

 

[Coach34]

I think the Rebs beat us 10-14...18 is a little much

 

[gdogg]

rolling in as a big underdog. just saying.
Go Dogs!

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

[No message]

 

[TilloDawg]

and rightfully so.......

 

[Coach34]

State could lose anywhere from 7 to 24 points...If I had to do something, i'd tease us up...might use us in a 10 pointer or 13 pointer...but this game could get real ugly...every decent offensive team State has played has piled up yards and points

 

[biguglyjoe]

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[sixpackmafia]

hated to do it, but I loaded up on the rebs.......i want the money and crooms gone....

 

[SwampDawg]

so 18 is about right (I know 18 is a push)

 

[sixpackmafia]

I dont think I can lose......and I could win twice....

 

[dawgstudent]

but does that mean for you to win both, you have to hope the margin of defeat is between 14 and 17 in Ole Miss's favor?

If that is the case, that just seems stupid if you wagered the same amount on each bet.

 

[El Diablo Blanco]

a 10% bookie fee

 

[DestinBob]

He means that if he bets on MSU and takes the points...... if Ole Miss wins but by less than 18 points, then he would win his bet AND his school would win also. So he is happy both ways.

 

[whatever.sixpack]

This is surprising since Snead might not be close to 100%. He might be a little more gun shy than he normally is if his shoulder is hurt so bad that he could only make "short" throws in practice.
State's done great against the spread this year, which means the nation or the bettors think we're worse than we really are. Look for State to cover 18 easily

 

[Coach34]

This is surprising since Snead might not be close to 100%. He might be a little more gun shy than he normally is if his shoulder is hurt so bad that he could only make "short" throws in practice.
State's done great against the spread this year, which means the nation or the bettors think we're worse than we really are. Look for State to cover 18 easily

Mississippi has the highest rated offense we have played all year, and we have given up some points and yards to any decent offense we have played this year...they will beat us by at least 10, while we may cover 18, it wont be easily

 

[whatever.sixpack]

OM's is the highest rated, but I think Arkansas' offense is the best we've faced. They are just further down in the rankings b/c their defense is by far the worst in the conference. Petrino is the best offensive mind in the league IMO, but he needs more players, and to build a top notch D.
OM still doesn't run the ball well traditionally, they get their rushing yards mostly through the Wild Rebel. If we shut the run game down and Snead's not up to par, we could make it really interesting b/c I think those guys have lapses in pass D</p>

 

[Emanonion]

Ole Miss has nearly 2000 yrds and 180 yrds per game. Where in those stats is a team that doesnt run the ball well? Now for total offense, Ole Miss is 39th while Arkansas is 54th, but dont let facts stand in your way.

 

[RebelBruiser]

This is surprising since Snead might not be close to 100%. He might be a little more gun shy than he normally is if his shoulder is hurt so bad that he could only make "short" throws in practice.
State's done great against the spread this year, which means the nation or the bettors think we're worse than we really are. Look for State to cover 18 easily

And I expect us to rely on the run extensively. Your weakness on D is the run. Snead may or may not be 100%, and honestly we run the ball really well. We'll probably run it a whole bunch early.

 

[sixpackmafia]

the idea is to play the middle lines....take a chance.....better than taking teasers IMO.......vegas is usually correct, so if, UM wins by 14,15,16,or 17 points, I win both bets.....UM covers the -13 and state covers the +18........there are people in vegas who make a living playing this exact bet....big moving lines playing the middle.....if it doesnt one doesnt cover, the other will regardless, and I am out 5 buck (in my case)..... so, its a pretty good situation.....

 

[whatever.sixpack]

I meant that OM doesn't run the ball that well in 'traditional' ways, ie b/t the tackles until the last 2-3 weeks. Eason only has 600 yards, and he, Bolden, and Davis are all under 5 yards a carry. McCluster has 500 yards and makes the run game go and has by far the highest ypc. Take him out, and you have an entirely different team.
Eason's ypc vs tough run D's: 2.3 vs Wake, 2.2 vs UF, 2.9 vs SCar, 2.0 vs Bama, 4.3 vs Ark, 3.5 vs LSU (Vandy and Auburn were exceptions)
And about Arkansas, they're averaging 23 yards less per game than OM, but it's b/c their D is much worse and spends more time on the field, plus throw in a tougher opponent in Texas on their schedule. I just think they are slightly better than OM on offense, and don't really care what the stats say.

 

[Emanonion]

I meant that OM doesn't run the ball that well in 'traditional' ways, ie b/t the tackles until the last 2-3 weeks. Eason only has 600 yards, and he, Bolden, and Davis are all under 5 yards a carry. McCluster has 500 yards and makes the run game go and has by far the highest ypc. Take him out, and you have an entirely different team.
Eason's ypc vs tough run D's: 2.3 vs Wake, 2.2 vs UF, 2.9 vs SCar, 2.0 vs Bama, 4.3 vs Ark, 3.5 vs LSU (Vandy and Auburn were exceptions)
And about Arkansas, they're averaging 23 yards less per game than OM, but it's b/c their D is much worse and spends more time on the field, plus throw in a tougher opponent in Texas on their schedule. I just think they are slightly better than OM on offense, and don't really care what the stats say.

I like how you exclude the 2 best performances just to try to make a point. Also even if you take away McClusters yrds we still have 1500 yrds rushing, and most of it between the tackles. If we arbitrarily take away the best rusher on your team what do you have left? Honestly Im not really sure why it matters where they run anyway they still have nearly 2000 yrds on the ground and there is no way to justify saying anyone has a bad rushing offense with that many yrds. Either way I dont see you all stopping our run game, so I guess the point is moot anyway. 2nd Edit to add: Ole Miss has had 718 plays and Ark has had 750 plays on offense. Your argument is now just stupid.

Edited to add: Does anyone believe this guy is a MSU fan? Sure seems like a pig in disguise to me.

 

[whatever.sixpack]

Oh so it's stupid now to say that Arky's offense is on par or slightly better than OM b/c 23 ypg separates them? I agree that stats can be manipulated to point out what you're trying to get across. But what I said about the OM running game I stand by, even after the game. In formations OUTSIDE of the Wild Rebel, OM struggles to run the football, even today. If OM had a 'traditional' off coord. that refused to get the ball to their best player (22) in unconventional ways like they've had the past however many years, then they would struggle to run the ball. </p>

Be happy that you don't though and that you have coaches that utilize your talent and your best player in every way possible, much like Meyer does w/ Harvin. One last thing, it doesn't even matter who I'm a fan of. </p>

 

[Coach34]

and not post again for a week after this classic:

"State's done great against the spread this year, which means the nation or the bettors think we're worse than we really are. Look for State to cover 18 easily "

I told you our defense hasnt stopped any offense that has been decent this season. I knew they would get theirs, but I thought we would fight back a little...

 

[Emanonion]

There is no manipulation involved on my end. You are the one trying to manipulate the numbers to amke your argument stick and again it is just wrong. Grats on your win over LSU today.