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<blockquote data-quote="Volatility_rivals135605" data-source="post: 131813163" data-attributes="member: 1476288"><p>Agree with a lot of what you said... Even if we disagree on some perspectives, I can certainly appreciate you wanting to extract emotion for your analysis, definitely a welcomed member!</p><p></p><p>(NO emotion in typed text, dont misinterpret as me saying you are wrong or anything negative)</p><p></p><p></p><p>You dont make the Elite 11 by having quick feet. Greene has a quality arm, he just needs a bit more time to learn how o read defenses.</p><p></p><p>He's just a redshirt freshmen, with a drastically shortened true freshmen year, and didnt run a typical modern offense in HS or play 7vs7... There are many Pro-Bowl level QB's that cant see over the OL... Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Drew Brees, etc.. Greene has a skillset to compensate for his height. </p><p></p><p>They'll just have to do a better job creating a scheme tailored to his skillsets & (pros+cons). Brown mentioned by playing two QB's, its hard to install two completely different offenses, which means the current offense is schemed for Doege, with subtle alterations for Greene. When its Greene's time, the entire offense will be developed for schemes & concepts specific to him and the skillsets of the other playmakers.</p><p></p><p>I personally feel, once Greene develops a bit more, and the offense is designed for him, the OL continue to develop(they are still very young), we will see a massive step forward in outcome consistency. Doege's limitations presents many limitations that allows DC's to pin their ears back and focus on Leddie, because they dont respect Doege's arm or his feet, which is why Leddie has not been very productive this year... When Greene is playing, Ive noticed it puts LB's in a position to have to choose, they are confused with delayed responses, which helps the running game. Because this helps establish the running game, this should help make Greene's passing a bit easier. BY having a high-end running game, established by a combination of Greene & Johnson+Anderson+Williams, this should organically open up the passing game, to reduce the # of reads needed for Greene to hit his mark.</p><p></p><p>This offense is still very young, the OL are mostly Freshmen & Soph, WVU has always been a developmental program that excels when they have a healthy # of upperclassmen on the field. Brown is resolving the talent issue via recruiting, but its going to take time for them to consistently produce at high level on field.</p><p></p><p>Dabo didnt win his 1st major bowl game until his 5th year. Didnt win his 1st Championship until his 9th year. Clemson was also FAR better positioned when Dabo was hired, compared to WVU when NB was hired. Dabo had a starting line that was 50 meters ahead of Brown's in a 800 meter race. Clemson had a healthy amount of talent on that team, and was already recruiting in the top 25 consistently.</p><p></p><p>The magnitude of change we seek is a 5 - 9 year process. Granted yesterdays performance was very poor, and there were obvious learning experiences to be spread all around, but close losses like what we have experienced this year is actually a sign of growth, compared to where we were when Grier graduated. Nothing but time will solve the majority of problems, as long as Brown continues to recruit well and to equally improve the schemes equal to the improvement of talent.</p><p></p><p>Im a strong supporter of Brown and there are many logical justifications for my support that have no association with homerism.. He inherited an absolute disaster, and to already be recruiting at the levels is an indicator of our future, as one the primary justifications is Brown & this staff are doing more with less, as this teams average recruiting ratings would put this team in the 70's... Which essentially means, we shouldnt even be competitive in many of these games, if you use recruiting ratings based expectations.. Clemson is a shining example of the fanbase being rewarded for their patience with an unproven P5 HC. Thats not to say we dont expect yearly progress & signs of improvement, or identify weaknesses & areas that need attention, or hold them accountable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Volatility_rivals135605, post: 131813163, member: 1476288"] Agree with a lot of what you said... Even if we disagree on some perspectives, I can certainly appreciate you wanting to extract emotion for your analysis, definitely a welcomed member! (NO emotion in typed text, dont misinterpret as me saying you are wrong or anything negative) You dont make the Elite 11 by having quick feet. Greene has a quality arm, he just needs a bit more time to learn how o read defenses. He's just a redshirt freshmen, with a drastically shortened true freshmen year, and didnt run a typical modern offense in HS or play 7vs7... There are many Pro-Bowl level QB's that cant see over the OL... Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Drew Brees, etc.. Greene has a skillset to compensate for his height. They'll just have to do a better job creating a scheme tailored to his skillsets & (pros+cons). Brown mentioned by playing two QB's, its hard to install two completely different offenses, which means the current offense is schemed for Doege, with subtle alterations for Greene. When its Greene's time, the entire offense will be developed for schemes & concepts specific to him and the skillsets of the other playmakers. I personally feel, once Greene develops a bit more, and the offense is designed for him, the OL continue to develop(they are still very young), we will see a massive step forward in outcome consistency. Doege's limitations presents many limitations that allows DC's to pin their ears back and focus on Leddie, because they dont respect Doege's arm or his feet, which is why Leddie has not been very productive this year... When Greene is playing, Ive noticed it puts LB's in a position to have to choose, they are confused with delayed responses, which helps the running game. Because this helps establish the running game, this should help make Greene's passing a bit easier. BY having a high-end running game, established by a combination of Greene & Johnson+Anderson+Williams, this should organically open up the passing game, to reduce the # of reads needed for Greene to hit his mark. This offense is still very young, the OL are mostly Freshmen & Soph, WVU has always been a developmental program that excels when they have a healthy # of upperclassmen on the field. Brown is resolving the talent issue via recruiting, but its going to take time for them to consistently produce at high level on field. Dabo didnt win his 1st major bowl game until his 5th year. Didnt win his 1st Championship until his 9th year. Clemson was also FAR better positioned when Dabo was hired, compared to WVU when NB was hired. Dabo had a starting line that was 50 meters ahead of Brown's in a 800 meter race. Clemson had a healthy amount of talent on that team, and was already recruiting in the top 25 consistently. The magnitude of change we seek is a 5 - 9 year process. Granted yesterdays performance was very poor, and there were obvious learning experiences to be spread all around, but close losses like what we have experienced this year is actually a sign of growth, compared to where we were when Grier graduated. Nothing but time will solve the majority of problems, as long as Brown continues to recruit well and to equally improve the schemes equal to the improvement of talent. Im a strong supporter of Brown and there are many logical justifications for my support that have no association with homerism.. He inherited an absolute disaster, and to already be recruiting at the levels is an indicator of our future, as one the primary justifications is Brown & this staff are doing more with less, as this teams average recruiting ratings would put this team in the 70's... Which essentially means, we shouldnt even be competitive in many of these games, if you use recruiting ratings based expectations.. Clemson is a shining example of the fanbase being rewarded for their patience with an unproven P5 HC. Thats not to say we dont expect yearly progress & signs of improvement, or identify weaknesses & areas that need attention, or hold them accountable. [/QUOTE]
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