He said if you are going to be extremely disappointed if State doesn't win 9 or 10 games then you may want to temper expectations some. I would agree, but i don't see but a couple of people on here sporting that much wool anyway. They did mention that most were saying 8-4. He said, and i agree, that he wouldn't make any bold predictions without seeing some question marks (the new linebackers, Left tackle, DE, etc) play. They said best case, 10-2, worst case State is goes into the egg bowl needing to win to make a bowl. Basically they agreed with the majority of people in this thread.