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MS4EVER

All-Conference
Dec 4, 2004
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MS went 4-0 @ Notre Dame earning the top seed. Unfortunately the tournament was canceled due to lightning.
 

McCaravan

All-American
Feb 1, 2016
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I didn’t know they kept score, I thought it was just for a workout. Like the scrimmages you used to do in grade school.
 
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LHSTigers94

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2004
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Maybe for some teams. I think for pass heavy teams it is important. Plus it helps you figure out how well your LB's and DB's can cover. MS has learned a lot over the years from 7's.

I agree. If you are a team that run your offense and defense during 7on7, you can learn a lot about your players. It's definitely not the only measuring stick however, there is a lot of value in it.
 
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TheDude11

Freshman
Oct 12, 2015
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Maybe for some teams. I think for pass heavy teams it is important. Plus it helps you figure out how well your LB's and DB's can cover. MS has learned a lot over the years from 7's.

It's important in the respect that if a team like MS doesn't doe well in them, then they'll really suck during the season. But for the most part, not that important at all.
 

Corey90

All-Conference
Aug 27, 2005
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Maybe for some teams. I think for pass heavy teams it is important. Plus it helps you figure out how well your LB's and DB's can cover. MS has learned a lot over the years from 7's.

When I say means nothing I mean nothing about going undefeated. Nobody is rushing the passer. Face it guys this is not real football. It shows if you have talented receivers, DBs and a QB beyond that it’s not worth keeping score.
 

BretEpic

Heisman
Jan 27, 2005
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I once saw a one-armed man pick off a quarterback twice in a seven-on-seven. Was incredible in two regards.
 

Goodolddays

Redshirt
May 7, 2019
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Whenever you compete, score should be kept. If you don't want to keep score, don't move the ball.
Some don’t move ball, some say 20 plays put ball where ever you want.

No coach cares about score just if kids are competing. Everyone plays so if you lose to team because your 3rd string guy got beat for 3 TDs who cares. It’s about development and practice
 
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Corey90

All-Conference
Aug 27, 2005
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Some don’t move ball, some say 20 plays put ball where ever you want.

No coach cares about score just if kids are competing. Everyone plays so if you lose to team because your 3rd string guy got beat for 3 TDs who cares. It’s about development and practice

Googolddsys you nailed it. Unbelievable some don’t get it. I will say again it doesn’t matter who wins or loses it’s just practice. Period!
 
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McCaravan

All-American
Feb 1, 2016
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Both my boys were/are linemen, I went to one of these a couple years ago and watched him stand their and do nothing for two hours. Maybe if they were a skilled position I would have been more interested.
 

LakeCtyNewt

All-Conference
Nov 13, 2002
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Me personally, I have never understood the concept of 7 on 7. No hitting, no tackling, no real scheming. I don't see how a QB gets better, receivers get better or any of that.

I see players posing with their trophies and such but then you don’t see that translating to regular games once the pass go on. Some I’m sure do.

Don’t see how you can truly assess how good a player is if he’s running around in a t shirt and shorts. And qb’s throwing to them that aren’t under any real pressure
 

mc140

All-Conference
May 29, 2001
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Me personally, I have never understood the concept of 7 on 7. No hitting, no tackling, no real scheming. I don't see how a QB gets better, receivers get better or any of that.

I see players posing with their trophies and such but then you don’t see that translating to regular games once the pass go on. Some I’m sure do.

Don’t see how you can truly assess how good a player is if he’s running around in a t shirt and shorts. And qb’s throwing to them that aren’t under any real pressure

I'll charge you $500 next spring to play and I'll find a way to convince you it matters.
 

LHSTigers94

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2004
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Some don’t move ball, some say 20 plays put ball where ever you want.

No coach cares about score just if kids are competing. Everyone plays so if you lose to team because your 3rd string guy got beat for 3 TDs who cares. It’s about development and practice


Every Coach cares about score! Only the losing coach make up a BS reason why that lost don’t matter! It is what it is. You play sports to win. You compete to be the best you can be. Hell, why do we keep score during the seasons? Why don’t we just scrimmage on Friday nights and not keep score? Is 7on7 the SAME as 11 on 11. HECK no, not even close! To say it’s pointless is simply not true. Whenever you enter into a tournament, you are trying to win.
 

Goodolddays

Redshirt
May 7, 2019
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Every Coach cares about score! Only the losing coach make up a BS reason why that lost don’t matter! It is what it is. You play sports to win. You compete to be the best you can be. Hell, why do we keep score during the seasons? Why don’t we just scrimmage on Friday nights and not keep score? Is 7on7 the SAME as 11 on 11. HECK no, not even close! To say it’s pointless is simply not true. Whenever you enter into a tournament, you are trying to win.
Think we are talking about 2 different things. Coaches who enter tournaments are there to win. However tournaments only account for maybe 1/5 of 7 on 7s. Most are 4 teams getting together at a school and working on schemes with everyone getting reps.

In many normal 7 on 7s (not tournaments). No one is keeping score, no turnovers, no moving ball. Offense sets ball wherever they want and has 20 plays then they switch. If one team wants all 20 from the 5 they can.
 

LHSTigers94

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2004
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Think we are talking about 2 different things. Coaches who enter tournaments are there to win. However tournaments only account for maybe 1/5 of 7 on 7s. Most are 4 teams getting together at a school and working on schemes with everyone getting reps.

In many normal 7 on 7s (not tournaments). No one is keeping score, no turnovers, no moving ball. Offense sets ball wherever they want and has 20 plays then they switch. If one team wants all 20 from the 5 they can.

Yes I am familiar and agree we are talking two different type of 7on7.
 
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Chief321

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Nov 8, 2015
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Knowing you are not getting hit changes things.

My drives on the driving range have less pressure to em than the ones on a tight fairway. But the ones I hit on the driving range make it more likely I’ll find short grass when I need to. If you only get better when the threat of getting popped is there, then the game is gonna be real sloppy going forward because they don’t hit much anymore until Friday night
 
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Corey90

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Aug 27, 2005
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7-7 is a great way to get in shape not much in the way of real football. If they want to keep score fine but it isn’t worth bragging about. Another words you may win at 7-7 but be crap in the season.
 
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Wassup13_rivals219252

All-Conference
Nov 9, 2002
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I have noticed the teams that do well with the 7 on 7's in the summer do look very poised and relaxed in the season and playoffs when they must run a 2 minute offense.

It may not be necessary for those teams that are run dominant and hardly pass the ball like a Geneseo, JCA, etc.
 
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mc140

All-Conference
May 29, 2001
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That makes no sense!At the very least your running routes and playing some coverages on defense.

They play 2-Man and Cover 0. It is the same thing as playing ball in the park with your friends. Except you pay hundreds of dollars.
 

LHSTigers94

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2004
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They play 2-Man and Cover 0. It is the same thing as playing ball in the park with your friends. Except you pay hundreds of dollars.

You will notice certain teams run their actual coverages and are successful in 7on7. Yes you have some teams that run 7on7 offense and Defense however those team struggle against above average teams
 

Kevin JCHS 81

All-Conference
Jul 16, 2005
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I have noticed the teams that do well with the 7 on 7's in the summer do look very poised and relaxed in the season and playoffs when they must run a 2 minute offense.

It may not be necessary for those teams that are run dominant and hardly pass the ball like a Geneseo, JCA, etc.
I don't know about the last 10 years or so, but historically JCA has done fairly well in 7 on 7 competitions. Makes you wonder why they wouldn't pass another 10-15 times a game to keep teams from cheating up against the run.
 

Chief321

Junior
Nov 8, 2015
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They play 2-Man and Cover 0. It is the same thing as playing ball in the park with your friends. Except you pay hundreds of dollars.

I don’t know about you but I saw more coverage than man in my passing leagues. And I don’t ever recall my buddies yelling at each other for not getting enough depth in their drop at the playground. I don’t see how getting skill position reps could ever not be helpful. The passing game is all about timing. Knowing when #80 gets out of his break vs when #83 gets out of his break on the same route is the difference between a completion and a pick 6. You get that through reps, the more the better.
 

Undercenter3rd1

Sophomore
Nov 19, 2018
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They play 2-Man and Cover 0. It is the same thing as playing ball in the park with your friends. Except you pay hundreds of dollars.
Your way off on this one!My kids played in a league over the winter and play with their HS in spring and definitely they will tell you the benefits of route running and defensive coverages.