A couple of notes on Rafters
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So is there going to be a problem with me posting game replays since these changes are in effect? I have been posting game replays for years, and some people count on them and or look forward to them. Speak now so I will know ahead of time
there is alot of headwinds against Kentucky fans in regards to basketball lately.
anything that takes fans away from focusing on Kentucky basketball is not good, especially with the apathy of NIL.
I doubt On3 cares, but this hurts UK.
anything that takes fans away from focusing on Kentucky basketball is not good, especially with the apathy of NIL.
I doubt On3 cares, but this hurts UK.
We’ve been here a long time and I’m sure Matt loves being one of the guys to tear it down. I believe that.
Capatalism isn’t the issue and it’s not the cause of this. We get this so backwards sometimes. It’s not capitalism or the pursuit of money that is the issue. The problem is the idea that you must maximize. It’s been taught for 50 years in every economics institution and since the lawyers have became the driving force in America this is where we are. Greed is the problem, and in our system we don’t actually have to do that. But one does it, the next think they have to do it. But they don’t.
I refuse to try and maximize in my life. When it’s enough, it’s enough, and I then help around me. If this country would begin to realize the maximization of profit is demonic and shows just how truly evil people can be, we’d be better off.
This became widespread when the boomers inherited the efforts of the generation before them and it hasn’t slowed since.
"I know it's not ideal for some people..."
I already pay you guys $130 a year to post here. I can tell you that it's not ideal for anyone. We have over 25 years of history with this message board community. You guys come across as massively iconoclastic with this move. Maybe even a little condescending as well.
Not really a way to win over the people whose money you want to eventually extract.
Because maybe I never was? Because I am not?
I don't know what to tell you, man.
Look at it this way. Your $130 a year that you pay to post here will contribute to 1/4th of the champagne bottle that 0n3's CEO gulps from next year in his luxury box seat when we win a big football game.
As a fellow peon, I'm always happy to make the master class enjoy their day just a little bit more.
Rename this board Wildcat Lair and Rupp Rafters - Free Board
This is contradictory. Once one does it, the rest will fall behind if they don't. The system itself incentives that "greed" and punishes you if you don't engage in it.
Personally, I would've kept the football board but it's not difficult to have one megathread for portal news and another for offseason news. Those two threads would cover most of the important topics during the offseason. Then reverse it once Madness is over and have the same threads for basketball. Problem is active posters have a habit of creating threads just because. That's why Rafters is always a crapshow after a loss. Folks think we need an entire thread dedicated to "OMG I'm mad!"
As far as GYERO goes, I've read the thread off and on for over 15 years but it's really slowed down the last year or so and it's been at a crawl the last several months. This move didn't kill it, those posters seemingly have grown out of logging in daily and posting updates on their lives. That's what happens as you get older. The thread was most active when those dudes were in their 20s and 30s. Now, not so much.
As far as GYERO goes, I've read the thread off and on for over 15 years but it's really slowed down the last year or so and it's been at a crawl the last several months. This move didn't kill it, those posters seemingly have grown out of logging in daily and posting updates on their lives. That's what happens as you get older. The thread was most active when those dudes were in their 20s and 30s. Now, not so much.
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I read this,and thought my Dad had come back alive
And I mean that in a good way, he was such a Kentucky fan, but he was pissed at the direction things had gone, and would say hell there not here long enough to remember there damn names. He was still a Ky fan when he died, but it was a different fan then when kids stayed around for 3 or 4 years.
Not sure how lucky that is, free does bring the damn trolls out, and maybe they love trolling enough to pay also
And I will be honest, I thought I was a pretty nutty fan, until I started reading RR. But I wasn't even close to some. But it's been fun, for the most part. But there are some, that can go fk themselves, and I won't be paying to listen to there bulls.hit.
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He’s a really good dude. Talks on end about the topic that shall not be named, adds his personal slant on the matter. Then when his supporters who keep his show on the air call in to talk about the topic that shall not be named, they get rudely rebuked and hung up on. Then, the same host complains in the next segment about the fans who tell him he should “stick to sports.”
(ring, ring)
Caller: Hey, uh Matt..can I talk about that topic that shall not be named? You know the one you were just saying…..
(click)
Matt: Stick to sports!
No they won’t. No.
you can make enough and have enough. You won’t fall behind because the guy in front of you maximized to the greediest point. The system itself doesn’t incentivize greed. It allows it, but you don’t have to do it.
What will happen now is younger generations are going to buy into caps into the system. it’ll be fought off for a while but eventually it’ll come. From there it will all erode, even at the top. The republic itself will fall, it’s already begun. And it’s happening due to selfish greed and the idea that you must do it. You absolutely do not have to do it. I personally know wealthy people who will tell you they said enough and went home to their family. Why don’t they have to do it? Because it’s the lie that’s been told at every university for 50 years. You just maximize. It’s pure nonsense.
Really didn’t understand it anyway. Nobody cares. It’s catsillustrated. It’s a sports network. Nobody cares that you changed your kids diaper or what you did at work. Most of that bs was a bunch of guys who clicked up in high school so they did their clicky sht here. All of that should have been taken out a long time ago. Take that crap to Facebook with the grandmothers.
You’re right tho, wildcat lair and rafters could have easily been left alone. What they need to do now to save any bit of this is stop this Dleague bs and clean this place up. A wrestling thread? I mean wtf. Grew up in Memphis with the king of wrestling but I’m 39, who tf logs on to a Kentucky sports forum to talk about that stupid crap. It’s just weird.
They either clean this crap up or in about 2 months this place is gone, minus the dufus paddock 55 year old who thinks it’s cool to log on after his movement and tell everyone.
Even granting that just for the sake of argument (it isn’t true), so? That’s staking all of society and its functioning on a gentlemen’s agreement. The altruism of strangers. Never going to work. Plenty of people may opt to follow it, as you say. But the Elon’s of the world never will. There must be regulation.
That is true, the boomers have held onto every penny they have made and most do not want to help the generation they made. I’ve seen a lot of information about this and my wife’s mother is a perfect example. Her husband made great financial decisions. Neither my wife, nor I care about their money, but since she doesn’t like me she won’t help her own daughter or grandkids one bit. She would rather die alone rather than give anything away even in death.
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I will admit I have no idea the financials of KSR but they just have a ton of average fans who throw money away. I completely agree with this, but if they didn’t think it would add to their pocket books it wouldn’t have been done.
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No it doesn’t, it’s like large companies. Amazon has all the money in the world. They are set for life basically and have destroyed brick and mortar stores for good almost outside your Wal-Marts. The Waltons are richer than they could ever imagine but in the futile pursuit of more profits that are impossible to get at this stage they will constantly raise prices, fire employees, engage in scummy practices all for 2 cents more in profit. At some points businesses can no longer grow, but they keep acting like they can. I love capitalism but it’s gotten to the point where corruption has caused the 1% to own everything. It shouldn’t be that way but the safeguards that are supposed to prevent it have been eroded over the decades by the people making the money.
I believe you are correct, it’s why so many are buying into the socialism is great narrative no matter how much evidence exists to the contrary because those ideals are also being taught to every generation in the same institutions. But we can all go round in circles on this, let’s get back to the core issues here. The merger sucks to the OG posters here.
You can tell the ppl making this decision are out of touch. Only a small handful of people still pay for message boards. Why pay for a message board when places like Twitter exist? I guess they don’t care about traffic because this gay site is going downhill.
Everything you said is true. Except the initial "No". It isn't corruption, it's just the natural progression of capitalism. The wealth concentrates and those in whose hands it concentrates use that power to continue to accrue more.
I have a strict policy as well. Show no loyalty and you will be shown none. In other words, ON3 can ESAD. Kentucky folks are the most loyal in the world but do them wrong and they'll never forget it.
And Matt, you're either for us or against us. That fence you're straddling is likely to give you splinters in an unfortunate place.
Everyone should find one of the new boards and move on.
Yeah, I hope no one is buying that BS. College sports is losing its identity anyway so finding diehards willing to pay to talk about a sport with waning interest is a losing proposition.
Corruption in the sense they get politicians in to erode safeguards like not enforcing laws such as the Sherman Antitrust act.
Take Google for example. They make spectacles in the sense of “ will sue Google and make them sell Chrome to promote competition.” That just allows them to get 500 billion more dollars in cash, they could put in backdoors to get the data they want anyway or just buy it back from the new owners.
Yeah true but RR was already free. Now with the KSR merge, instead of one heroeshero, we have 40 of themNot sure how lucky that is, free does bring the damn trolls out, and maybe they love trolling enough to pay also
And I will be honest, I thought I was a pretty nutty fan, until I started reading RR. But I wasn't even close to some. But it's been fun, for the most part. But there are some, that can go fk themselves, and I won't be paying to listen to there bulls.hit.
But it is true. Elon maximizing to the last dime doesn’t make me have to keep working to maximize if I’ve made 10 million in real estate and think it’s plenty. Him maximizing doesn’t force me to do anything or make less money. One has nothing to do with the other.
The maximization of profit is founded in the idea that you have to maximize due to the situational reality you might not be making money the next year or the next year. So make all you can now. My point is that’s a dangerous idea and we’re seeing it play out now. My overall ***** was the system is great, the people?
And this bleeds into so many areas, like housing. It’s so simple to just end the pursuit of single family homes to live and let live. But maximization tells the corporations to squeeze it and take them.
My larger point is the system is fine, it works, and it’s the best system ever created. But the way we do it? We’re trading 1 king for 50 kings. It’s at this point that you’re going to have to tweak it not because the system doesn’t work but because men just can’t mentally handle it. Either way any one side looks at it or which system you prefer, if we don’t back off maximization mindsets the lower masses will do what they do in any democratic style form of government. They’re going to grow in numbers and bring it down. This is how democracy falls, but we don’t teach that. We teach to squeeze. People, not system. That’s the issue.
years ago - like during the Pitino years, CNNSI had a message board, it wasn't moderated all that much and it was insane but it was also fun
Duke, UNC, and Kentucky fans just going at it daily, and from that I forged some friends that I still talk to. There would be thousands of posts daily on various sports threads. Teams that didn't have a big fanbase in basketball, like Florida State for example would become a thread where people talked politics etc.
Huge following, it wasn't for everyone, lots of UK fans didn't like the idea of UNC fans telling them they sucked and wanted an internet safe space, so they ended up on Rainman's version of whatever this board was back then
Anyways, AOL bought out CNNSI, took over the message board and immediately shut them down in favor of chat groups on their platform.
thousands of people that had interacted with each other daily, indirectly and directly supporting their teams and keeping interest high were without a landing spot
Rivals tried to fill the void but instead of charging me $9.99 a month or whatever to post on *EVERY* message board they had, they wanted me to pay a separate fee for each one (at least thats how I understand it)
Didn't think it could get worse, looks like it will.
death by a thousand cuts
Duke, UNC, and Kentucky fans just going at it daily, and from that I forged some friends that I still talk to. There would be thousands of posts daily on various sports threads. Teams that didn't have a big fanbase in basketball, like Florida State for example would become a thread where people talked politics etc.
Huge following, it wasn't for everyone, lots of UK fans didn't like the idea of UNC fans telling them they sucked and wanted an internet safe space, so they ended up on Rainman's version of whatever this board was back then
Anyways, AOL bought out CNNSI, took over the message board and immediately shut them down in favor of chat groups on their platform.
thousands of people that had interacted with each other daily, indirectly and directly supporting their teams and keeping interest high were without a landing spot
Rivals tried to fill the void but instead of charging me $9.99 a month or whatever to post on *EVERY* message board they had, they wanted me to pay a separate fee for each one (at least thats how I understand it)
Didn't think it could get worse, looks like it will.
death by a thousand cuts