A couple of notes on Rafters

meteordealer

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I hate to be a negative Nellie, but this move was done intentionally in an attempt to force my hand into paying On3 money for the privilege of posting on a message board.

As a first generation internet user from the late 20th Century, I flat out refuse.

It’s a shame. It’s like losing a community I have been a part of for nearly 25 years under a couple different names.

Gotta love capitalism.
I'm pretty sure that was the plan. Merge with KSR to increase the number of users, axe all of the forums, and condense everyone into one forum. Then put up a paywall, where Jones gets a cut from On3. Then he and Rowland post, and make it sound like they did us all a favor.
 

meteordealer

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Literally has nothing to do with capitalism lmao You're lucky to be allowed to post here for free still. To even be on the internet at all. Be grateful for that.
There are a bazillion free message boards out there. This is one of the few that still tries to charge money for it. Like it's the year 2000 and there are no other options.
 
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Rivals/247/On3 has figured out how to monetize fan forums - hence no free forums. Surprised they allowed this one to stay around.

Anyone here run a server? Run their own message board before? Back in the day it was 500-1k / yearly, no idea what it is now.
 

Anon1768324584

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Just so folks know, the decision to get rid of the other free boards was not mine or Justin’s. On3 is getting rid of all free boards on its site for moderation issues and I think virtually all of their new sites have none. They also have a strict policy of no “general discussion” boards bc they devolve into politics and on3 has a “100% no politics” policy. Justin and I both convinced the powers that be to keep one due to historical purposes and they agreed. My guess is that within the year, it will be the one of the last ones left in the entire on3 network

I know it’s not ideal for some people and it is a change. But Justin has agreed to keep moderation of this board under his editing and it will continue. It’s not a “KSR” decision and it certainly isn’t my decision. It’s just the way they do message boards and it’s why when KSR+ started theirs, no free discussion board was part of it.
Not happy with the change.
 

Farsight Clone

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Really. So selling off a free website with a likely end goal of generating paid subscribers to the entity that bought it has nothing to do with capitalism.

And according to you I must kiss the *** of my corporate overlords for the privilege of existing. Thank you, corporate masters, for allowing me the absolute privilege of using the internet! I an eternally beholden to you all!
"Likely", is the key word here. This is speculation because you probably don't like KSR/Matt Jones. There is no evidence right now to suggest that Rupp's Rafter's will be nothing more than a free forum. It just happens its now consolidated with other forums from Cat's Illustrated.

This is the problem with society now. They blame and accuse and think their speculation is 'fact'. If this does happen and Rupp's Rafter's does indeed no longer become a free forum, then, yes, I would agree with you, that everyone has the right to b!tch.

There are a bazillion free message boards out there. This is one of the few that still tries to charge money for it. Like it's the year 2000 and there are no other options.
Rupp's Rafter's is still free so?
 

Beatle Bum

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I agree that it sucks. But as someone who operated a free site, kept it free and had to make payroll and pay for costs, if the economics were then what they are now for advertising rates, it would have been hard to justify doing it

so while I enjoyed that era, I also understand why it doesn’t make economic sense now
On3 does not make much money off all the ads populating in their free stories or the popups that people are forced to close in order to keep scrolling through an article? Damn, that must suck because it sucks as a reader. Olay body lotion is ripping us off!!!!
 

SDC337

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I hate to be a negative Nellie, but this move was done intentionally in an attempt to force my hand into paying On3 money for the privilege of posting on a message board.

As a first generation internet user from the late 20th Century, I flat out refuse.

It’s a shame. It’s like losing a community I have been a part of for nearly 25 years under a couple different names.

Gotta love capitalism.
Capitalism is what got you all the free postings as a "first generation internet user from the late 20th Century" in the first darn place.

They weren't doing it just to be nice either.

Really. So selling off a free website with a likely end goal of generating paid subscribers to the entity that bought it has nothing to do with capitalism.

And according to you I must kiss the *** of my corporate overlords for the privilege of existing. Thank you, corporate masters, for allowing me the absolute privilege of using the internet! I an eternally beholden to you all!

You people have a massive chip on your shoulder, and for no darn reason. Maybe figure out what caused that and you'll fix yourselves. Life has never been easier, believe it or not, and that's thanks to capitalism (freedom of free-enterprise_).

Good luck to you.

"Likely", is the key word here. This is speculation because you probably don't like KSR/Matt Jones. There is no evidence right now to suggest that Rupp's Rafter's will be nothing more than a free forum. It just happens its now consolidated with other forums from Cat's Illustrated.

This is the problem with society now. They blame and accuse and think their speculation is 'fact'. If this does happen and Rupp's Rafter's does indeed no longer become a free forum, then, yes, I would agree with you, that everyone has the right to b!tch.


Rupp's Rafter's is still free so?

You're just being let down slowly. The clock is ticking: eventually you won't even have this subsection which is "free."

I also flat out refuse to pay.

I actually paid for this site way back when most everything was free, but no way today. If yo ucan't generate your own revenue without the subscription model you don't really deserve to exist, imho, and likely won't for long. The niche you carved out for yourself is temporary when/if you don't provide something substantive for free which gets eyeballs on you.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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It may have been asked:

But why couldn't we just move over the Paddock? I mean if you can migrate the Cat's Illustrated forum in it's entirety, was moving The Paddock THAT big of an ask? A few clicks and it could have been a sibling forum right next to CI. Don't see why that couldn't be done.

All I can think of is that I'm sure it's taking up more storage/computer somewhere, and I know that has costs.. but it's not like any other work was really needed for the Paddock. No real need to moderate it IMO. Updating any code or database stuff would be done the same as CI.
Because the cost of doing it was just so high… it’s not feasible to have 2 free message boards.
 

Farsight Clone

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You're just being let down slowly. The clock is ticking: eventually you won't even have this subsection which is "free."

I also flat out refuse to pay.

I actually paid for this site way back when most everything was free, but no way today. If yo ucan't generate your own revenue without the subscription model you don't really deserve to exist, imho, and likely won't for long. The niche you carved out for yourself is temporary when/if you don't provide something substantive for free which gets eyeballs on you.
Can you prove that this forum "Rupps Rafters' will go from free to paid?

Right now I am taking it as is, and until then there is no reason to be upset.

Free forum drives traffic. Want insider stuff? Want to hangout with the KSR community? You pay. I don't understand how that is confusing.

I bet the reason why you're upset is because its KSR who took over and you guys don't like them.

So until you have absolute facts without speculation, there is no need to get your panties in a twist.
 
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your whole online persona is defending your favorite political pedophiles. You are the "DB anon account" you repulsive hick
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*Fox2Monk*

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I'm pretty sure that was the plan. Merge with KSR to increase the number of users, axe all of the forums, and condense everyone into one forum. Then put up a paywall, where Jones gets a cut from On3. Then he and Rowland post, and make it sound like they did us all a favor.
Probably with and end goal to sell it once again to Amazon or whoever wants to get into sports next.
 

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Can you prove that this forum "Rupps Rafters' will go from free to paid?

Right now I am taking it as is, and until then there is no reason to be upset.

Free forum drives traffic. Want insider stuff? Want to hangout with the KSR community? You pay. I don't understand how that is confusing.

I bet the reason why you're upset is because its KSR who took over and you guys don't like them.

So until you have absolute facts without speculation, there is no need to get your panties in a twist.
thank you , this thread is unhinged.
the only important takeaway is
RUPP RAFTERS IS STILL FREE
 
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SDC337

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Can you prove that this forum "Rupps Rafters' will go from free to paid?

Right now I am taking it as is, and until then there is no reason to be upset.

Free forum drives traffic. Want insider stuff? Want to hangout with the KSR community? You pay. I don't understand how that is confusing.

I bet the reason why you're upset is because its KSR who took over and you guys don't like them.

So until you have absolute facts without speculation, there is no need to get your panties in a twist.

Can you prove I have my panties in a twist?

Untwist your panties, my guy. :ROFLMAO:

Yes, it's my opinion. It's my speculation. Of course that's what it is, but no, I couldn't care less; things change. The only constant is change. The Catspaw was once a VERY vibrant community, would have something like 20,000 SIMULTANEOUS UNIQUE viewers during it's peak, like during final four games, etc, and like two thousand at any random moment of the day. It's a shadow of its former self and has been for a long while, nothing's gonna change that. I hope you and everyone else enjoy a free board that's even better than before, but I doubt that happens... just my opinion bro... you're reading in your frustrations
 

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Can you prove I have my panties in a twist?

Untwist your panties, my guy. :ROFLMAO:

Yes, it's my opinion. It's my speculation. Of course that's what it is, but no, I couldn't care less; things change. The only constant is change. The Catspaw was once a VERY vibrant community, would have something like 20,000 SIMULTANEOUS UNIQUE viewers during it's peak, like during final four games, etc, and like two thousand at any random moment of the day. It's a shadow of its former self and has been for a long while, nothing's gonna change that. I hope you and everyone else enjoy a free board that's even better than before, but I doubt that happens... just my opinion bro... you're reading in your frustrations

You basically proved my point. Opinion does not equate to facts.
 

SDC337

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You basically proved my point. Opinion does not equate to facts.

People should understand that opinions and facts are two different things, obviously.

If someone ever tells you that something is likely to happen in the future, something for which they have absolutely no control over, then that is an opinion, not a fact.
 

LineSkiCat14

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Because the cost of doing it was just so high… it’s not feasible to have 2 free message boards.

But I don't see how that costs much more? These forums ideally should be hosted somewhere, and aside from some database and UI maintenance, it really shouldn't be a big deal. It's not like the mods are really watching things. So from a manpower standpoint, there really shouldn't be anything else needed to have an additional free board.

However, there could be costs for computer and storage. I imagine the Paddock forum has at least several TBs of database storage for all the historical threads/topics.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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But I don't see how that costs much more? These forums ideally should be hosted somewhere, and aside from some database and UI maintenance, it really shouldn't be a big deal. It's not like the mods are really watching things. So from a manpower standpoint, there really shouldn't be anything else needed to have an additional free board.

However, there could be costs for computer and storage. I imagine the Paddock forum has at least several TBs of database storage for all the historical threads/topics.
I agree