A few run-of-the-mill expansion photos:

Xenomorph

All-American
Feb 15, 2007
15,346
9,046
113
 

Xenomorph

All-American
Feb 15, 2007
15,346
9,046
113
Walking out onto the NEZ concourse..

Expansion on the left, existing west side on the right.

 

Xenomorph

All-American
Feb 15, 2007
15,346
9,046
113
Here's an issue that hasn't been discussed...

Standing in Section 7 (the old section F) I realized just how much higher the new risers of the NEZ will be when compared to the existing west side. If you're sitting in section 7, the feet of the people in section 8 will be higher than your head.

I wonder how that's going to look during a game.

 

BigMotherTucker

Sophomore
Aug 20, 2006
6,779
155
63
I was wondering about that... But it almost had to be that way so the people in that corner can see over the wall in front of them.
 

Xenomorph

All-American
Feb 15, 2007
15,346
9,046
113
I think it has to do with...

...the different elevations of the east and west sides, but I'm not 100% certain on that.
 

Seinfeld

All-American
Nov 30, 2006
11,133
6,952
113
Interesting point, but my guess is that when you have 61k people packed in that thing, you won't even begin to notice the difference in height on tv. Hope I'm not wrong...

On a side note, everything continues to look great with the expansion, but one thing that I'm a little disappointed about(considering that $80M was just spent) is that they didn't go ahead and put in chairbacks for some of the prime west side seats. Mainly, sections 3-5. I feel like I've seen several stadiums lately where the entire home side is lined with chairbacks and not only are they much more comfortable than benches, but the extra color looks great on tv too.
 

Xenomorph

All-American
Feb 15, 2007
15,346
9,046
113
You'd lose a ton of capacity going from numbered bench seats to individual chairs.
 

Seinfeld

All-American
Nov 30, 2006
11,133
6,952
113
Point taken, but wouldn't the ideal time to do it be when you could add that capacity back as part of the expansion effort? Granted, you'd be trading high dollar seats for low ones, but I really feel like they could have at least done it for limited areas. If it's money they're worried about, jack up the contribution level for the new chairbacks. I'll tell you one thing. I'd pay a high dollar amount for a section 4 chairback well before I'd pay $1500 for one of those endzone loge seats. That may just be me, though
 

Shamoan

Redshirt
Jun 27, 2013
12,466
0
0
i think a good compromise for comfort/appearance while maintaining capacity are the stadium bleacher seats that have the back rest. like the outfield general admission seats at td ameritrade for a recent reference....or those that sat in the chairbacks, the seats that look like this:



you get the clean color, the back support, yet are still able to fit as many people on the bleacher as you/the school decides. its killer trying to sit on bleachers when all you want to do is lean back and be supported. this would eliminate the need for the removable chairbacks that look so bad:



imo, that would be a HUGE step forward in getting the stadium to not look like the 2nd oldest stadium in the nation and would damn sure make the game watching experience considerably better.

i wonder how much something like this would cost. it would be amazing if we could pull it off.
 

Seinfeld

All-American
Nov 30, 2006
11,133
6,952
113
I would gladly take the back supports as a compromise. Then, as added bonus to the additional comfort, Little Tommy would be forced to kick crap out of his shin from the row behind me as opposed to my back and shoulder blades.

Also, it is nothing short of amazing as to how amateur the pre-expansion DWS looks at times. I really hope that someone will post an extensive before and after set of pics once it's all said and done.
 

TheBigDA

Redshirt
Aug 29, 2008
1,758
0
0
Time to do that would be this offseason. Especially with renumbering and reseating. I've always thought this would be awesome as well. I would especially love if maroon and white seats in the form of a big M-STATE or some kickass chillbilly design.
 

MSUDawg25

Redshirt
Jan 21, 2010
2,088
1
38
i think a good compromise for comfort/appearance while maintaining capacity are the stadium bleacher seats that have the back rest. like the outfield general admission seats at td ameritrade for a recent reference....or those that sat in the chairbacks, the seats that look like this:

you get the clean color, the back support, yet are still able to fit as many people on the bleacher as you/the school decides. its killer trying to sit on bleachers when all you want to do is lean back and be supported. this would eliminate the need for the removable chairbacks that look so bad

A few of things here:
-I'm not sure if there is really room for those back supports. Wouldn't your knees be cramped as hell against the back supports in front of you unless they were straight up and down?
-They wouldn't create any new revenue(unless prices went up) like the expansion does, so it's just less likely to happen.
-The temporary chairbacks only look bad in a completely empty stadium like the pic you posted. They are totally not noticeable in a stadium even 75% full.

As someone who had battled back problems, it would definitely be an improvement, but I doubt it will happen anytime soon.
 

Shamoan

Redshirt
Jun 27, 2013
12,466
0
0
A few of things here:
-I'm not sure if there is really room for those back supports. Wouldn't your knees be cramped as hell against the back supports in front of you unless they were straight up and down?
-They wouldn't create any new revenue(unless prices went up) like the expansion does, so it's just less likely to happen.
-The temporary chairbacks only look bad in a completely empty stadium like the pic you posted. They are totally not noticeable in a stadium even 75% full.

As someone who had battled back problems, it would definitely be an improvement, but I doubt it will happen anytime soon.



using the above picture to base my opinion on, i think there would be plenty of room. look at the widest portion...thats not exceptionally wide compared to the other concrete steps...it just looks like it narrows based on perspective. so, assuming that this is the standard width, look at the 2x4...which most likely isnt exactly a full 4 inches, but for arguments sake, lets say it is 4 inches....so to me, it looks like from back of bleacher to front of bleacher, to me it looks like you could fit 4 of those 2x4's in there fairly easily (even compensating for the overhang)...so you are dealing with roughly 16 inches....a quick search on the internet shows bleacher width is either 10 or 12 inches...both are standard. im 6'1" and from the tip of my knee to the back off my *** is roughly 24 inches....so, from back of metal bleacher to the vertical imaginary back rest with no recline assuming a stander 12 inch bleacher (as a student, i stood on the bleachers all game and dont remember my toes hanging off, plus against the 2x4 it looks like 12 inches to me) so the extrapolated total is 28 inches ...leaving roughly 4 inches of play to add some recline and compensate for even taller people. unless you have the femur is exceptionally long, you shouldnt have a problem...and its not like people sit with knees together with feet flat on the ground....so a person's natural sitting position would only add more room. i would think even with a recline for the back support, i think most men would still have 3 or 4 inches (if not more) of play even with a reclined rail.

i did take some liberties and i have no idea what the actual measurements are, but using an educated guess with a 2x4 as a frame of reference, i think it could be done.

i agree that it would need some justification, but a HUGE selling point is how much more enjoyable your in-game experience would be. also, its not like it would be a MASSIVE undertaking. its adding some aluminum with some brackets a bunch of times over....pretty simple and straight forward. sure, its a multi-million dollar investment, but one that really improves the gameday experience and makes it comfortable for the average joe....and it doesnt hurt that i think some of our older and more wealthy fans would really appreciate the reduction in back strain and pain that goes along with sitting for 3 + hours in the sweltering heat.

i might be totally off-base on my estimations, but just looking at it as explained there is some room to get it done for sure.

i also doubt it would happen anytime soon, but it would really launch our in-game experience to the next level....screw chairbacks, just give us something to lean against. i still think the temporary chairbacks look terrible especially considering they are left out in the elements for nearly 9 months and are sporadically placed. not a huge deal, but it makes the stadium look unkempt.