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What was that angle? 38 degrees? 42 degrees? Without knowing that angle, you have NO idea if he crossed. Apparently, some six pack posters need for Physics of Football to make a return.
So instead of bitching about the safety or the interceptions or the cluster of a first half, THIS is the play that keeps getting singled out? It was a sure TD. It was the right call. We let it come down to that... This game was on us and not the officials GETTING THE CALL RIGHT.
I can infer it was a likely TD
Unless the refs had a different view, there was no indisputable evidence given the looks we had. Again, likely TD, but that's not how the rules work. That top view was from a camera 10-15 yards back. You can't base an overrule on that.
Unless the refs had a different view, there was no indisputable evidence given the looks we had. Again, likely TD, but that's not how the rules work. That top view was from a camera 10-15 yards back. You can't base an overrule on that.
It was clearly the wrong call by any reasonable person that understands geometry. The call on the field was fumble. In order to overturn, there MUST be video (i. e. Visual) evidence of him crossing the goal. CBS did not have any that they shared with their viewers. It's really not that difficult. Your "thoughts" don't count.
THIS. Even if they screwed up that call (they didn't), we had chances to win and pissed (interceptions) them away.
A better question is, how the **** is there not a pair of cameras on the goal line of every fbs stadium in America. Seems important.
And who's to say we would have done anything with the ball on the 1 yard line anyway? Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to have had the turnover. But it would have been difficult. I think they got the call right anyway.
If I had to single out any one part of the game that cost us(there were many) it was our poor punting in the first half that cost us field position. And there great punting to put us deeper in a hole. Reverse the kicking game and field position, we might have won.
If I had to single out any one part of the game that cost us(there were many) it was our poor punting in the first half that cost us field position. And there great punting to put us deeper in a hole. Reverse the kicking game and field position, we might have won.
The call on the field was a fumble. Did any of the officials on the field actually call it a TD on the field at the time? Or did they wait for the SEC offices to do their jobs for them? That's what I don't get.
And about the ball crossing the goal-great tweet during the game: "the worst bowling alley in town has been able to tell me if my foot's crossed the line since about 1988, but we still can't tell if the ball's broken the plane in football. "
And yes, quite frankly the horrible sequence where we ended up handing Alabama 5 points is what really bit us in the ***.
And about the ball crossing the goal-great tweet during the game: "the worst bowling alley in town has been able to tell me if my foot's crossed the line since about 1988, but we still can't tell if the ball's broken the plane in football. "
And yes, quite frankly the horrible sequence where we ended up handing Alabama 5 points is what really bit us in the ***.
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I have said for years the technology is there to end all these judgement calls. Put a RFID chip in each end of football. Have a beam that shoots across field on yardage sticks and end zone markers. Beam is penetrated then it's a first down or touchdown. No arguing, no judgement.
Alabama games have a special Slive Cam that's only available to be viewed by the replay officials**
A beam that shoots across the field? ummm I think the 22 players on the field might cross it too. First downs too? I guess the sideline refs can position the beam for each play.
RFID? This is as pointless as a bad camera angle. No way to tell if the ball is directly over the goal line (and not at an angle). And plus you'd need a chip in the front and back of the football. Not happening.
No sport has an absolute way to resolve this issue or will in the near future.
It was a touchdown. It will always be a touchdown.
Supposedly the replay booths have multiple screens synced up, so you don't just need one angle. In fact, I think one reason they do this is the screwing we took against Florida in Jonathan banks freshman year, where the replay official missed the uf fumble because he didn't look at both angles and the time on the clock.
My "thoughts" obviously count enough that what I thought would initially happen ended up happening... So what if CBS didn't have any replay that mattered (no way to know if the officials did... but the replay I saw was pretty conclusive... especially since everyone is saying "well, it was a touchdown BUT...)? THE. RIGHT. CALL. WAS. MADE. It was a TD by at least a foot. I saw it. The officials saw it. Everyone I was sitting with saw it and said the same 17ing thing I did... that "no way this isn't a TD." When henry fell to the ground (without the ball, but he made zero forward progress on his way to the ground and he was holding the ball at his chest, which was ripped from him on his way to the ground) THE GOAL LINE FELL UNDER HIS WAIST. Need I remind you that the ball only has to break the FRONT PLANE of the goal line in order to score. That is a 17ing touchdown all day every day. It's not what cost us the game, it's not anything other than the officials wanting to get the call right... and they did. I don't know why people are so adamant about bitching about the officials... Hell, Bama had nearly twice the penalties we did last night and we are screaming about a call they eventually looked at and got right. This is stupid...
I guess everyone has forgotten about making fun of all the Auburn fans bitching about the officials in our game that "lost them the game?" and posting a stupid *** video about it? This is the same kind of ****... a lot more cost us the game than the officials looking at a replay and doing their best to get it right.
I guess everyone has forgotten about making fun of all the Auburn fans bitching about the officials in our game that "lost them the game?" and posting a stupid *** video about it? This is the same kind of ****... a lot more cost us the game than the officials looking at a replay and doing their best to get it right.
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They probably got it right but they did it as hoc and didn't follow the rules. What I'm more curious about is the psychology of the person who argues vehemently that calls against his school were correct.
You obviously have no understanding of how camera angles work. There was no "overhead" angle. The skycam shot was from BEHIND the play, not on top of it, which will make it seem like he was farther forward than he actually was. The one time they showed a shot directly from the sideline, Henry might have crossed the goal line by an inch before the ball came out, but there were too many other players in the way to know, therefore there was not enough evidence to overturn the call.
If you take the overhead view and the goal line view, you can conclusively see that the ball crossed the goal line -- there is no question it was a touchdown which they got right in the end. I wish they hadn't but putting the two videos together it is no question that he had the ball across the goal line.
In the end, tough game between two great teams. We just didn't make as many crucial plays as they did. Sims converted some important third downs and you have to give them credit for that. We are certainly capable of beating them... as well as anyone else in the country. Ultimatey, if we take care of business against OM, I think that we get our chance to.
In the end, tough game between two great teams. We just didn't make as many crucial plays as they did. Sims converted some important third downs and you have to give them credit for that. We are certainly capable of beating them... as well as anyone else in the country. Ultimatey, if we take care of business against OM, I think that we get our chance to.
Yeah, I just watched that part of the game again this morning. There was a replay they showed just one time, that pretty much cleared it up....it was an angle from the same side of the field as the main cameras. It wasn't right down the goalline, but it was close, and it was high enough to be above the play. You can hardly see the ball, but you can see that Henry got almost half of his body across the goal line, and you can see the ball as it pops loose. If you combine that replay with the replay from the other side where you can see Henry carrying the ball, its clear he was had the ball in the endzone.
You mean a ball that crosses the plane of the goal line in possession of a player is a touchdown? Dear god, you are worse than the Auburn fans bitching about the PI calls... LET IT GO. IT WAS THE RIGHT CALL... geez. I've officiated plenty of football throughout the years and that's just not something I'm going to be upset about. I'll always be OK with a crew that works hard to get a call right. That's their job... and that's exactly what this crew did. As someone said, you can argue technicalities all you want, but practically speaking, I don't see how in the hell that is not a touchdown.... and show me a damn angle it wasn't a TD. I'll hang up and listen.
And not only that, your ***** *** has no idea what tools/angles the officials had to make the call. No replay I saw or anybody across the damn country saw said that it WASN'T a TD... and no one but state fans are bitching about this... so get off your high horse and quit being a damn ***** about it.
And not only that, your ***** *** has no idea what tools/angles the officials had to make the call. No replay I saw or anybody across the damn country saw said that it WASN'T a TD... and no one but state fans are bitching about this... so get off your high horse and quit being a damn ***** about it.
Yep, I signed up two years ago because I knew you were going to not understand the way video works. I'll go back to lurking in the shadows now because I know I won't be able to help you figure out the way forced perspective works.
I 17ing know how video works. Dear God... I don't know why people are making a big deal about this. Please Please Please... show me an angle that it wasn't a TD. Every angle I saw (Including your beloved skycam behind the ball) said it was a TD because when Henry fell down, half his damn body was in the endzone before it was ripped from him. How is that not a TD? And why is it not Ok for an officiating crew with enough evidence say that it's not a TD simply because of a bad angle? It wasn't a close call and I'm not going to be upset about it. Be upset over safeties, picks, and field position... because that cost us the game a hell of a lot more than the right call being made.
Plus, even if the call went our way, its our ball at the 1. Another safety maybe? At best we are punting from inside the 5 and giving Bama great field position again. Yeah, I would certainly have preferred the call went our way, but that was not the reason we lost.
SEC Offical ...
told me that the ONLY video the officials see to review is supplied by TV. And, when games are not televised, there is NO video replay review.
They can sometimes see views that the broadcast doesn't show fans o n TV. BUT, if the TV caught a view that showed the Bama RB scoring, CBS would have showed it ... period.
told me that the ONLY video the officials see to review is supplied by TV. And, when games are not televised, there is NO video replay review.
They can sometimes see views that the broadcast doesn't show fans o n TV. BUT, if the TV caught a view that showed the Bama RB scoring, CBS would have showed it ... period.