A is for Attitude ...
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I can't believe that anyone would be this dumb.
1. It was not PN's fault that the refs botched the ruling.
2.It was not PN's fault that the refs made an incorrect call on an illegal touching penalty where a defender pushed a PN WR out of bounds, the WR reestablished himself, and caught the go ahead TD pass with less than 2 min to go.
3. It was not PN's fault that Fenwick could not stop them in overtime.
4. Even if PN were stupid enough to "step aside," the IHSA would just consider it a forfeit victory for ESL and not let Fenwick play in the championship.
The entitlement and audacity of some people on here to think otherwise blows my mind.
I can't believe that anyone would take my posting of this video as anything but a joke. However, here we are!
Whoops. However, there are plenty on here that literally believe that PN should do exactly what happened in that video. Ludicrous.
No argument here. And they have every right to be upset and protest. But from what I have seen, there has been WAY too much hatred and disrespect sent PN's way by a lot of the Fenwick faithful. Not right.
No dog in this fight! I firmly believe that this is not a private vs public battle. I am torn by this situation. I feel the pain/animosity/hatred/bitterness for all involved.
I place blame squarely on Fenwich's coaches! It's their job to know the rules and play by them. I am certain they teach the rules to their coaches. I am pretty sure the head coach is required to go to a rules interpretation meeting before first game? Unless they did away with this, it's at this meeting with officials in attendance they review the rule book and ask questions.
No one on Fenwick's staff had a rule book? Not one of their coaches knew the rule??? Shame on the staff! They screwed up by putting their team back on the field....... doing so in my opinion they agreed to the call and thus got beat. Did the head coach tell the official on the record that he was protesting the call?
Afterwards is when Fenwick wants to call foul!
Fenwich's staff has all the reason to be mad as hell and upset but they need to take ownership and responsibility! I read that the head coach stated he didn't know the rule because he thought they change it. Serouisly the Head Coach didn't know the rule even after that same blunder happened in a college game(Oklahoma State) earlier this year and was shown repetively on sports channels!
This will have an ugly ending! There will be no winners in this.
Blame can be pointed in all directions.
If I see another poster say it's Fenwick's fault for not stopping Plainfield North in overtime, my head is going to explode. Enough already.
I believe that if an opposite result had occurred, Fenwick would have forfeited the victory.
I'm disappointed Fenwick didn't sue the IHSA.
Perhaps the PN principal, AD or coach privately bellieve they should forfeit, but that would never happen. If they made such a suggestion, they'd be silenced and eventually fired, and no other public school would hire them. That's because Catholic (oh, I'm sorry, make that non-boundary schools) are hated by their public counterparts for having one advantage. The fact that the table of advantages is otherwise totally stacked against Catholic schools makes no difference.
I'm disappointed Fenwick didn't sue the IHSA.
Perhaps the PN principal, AD or coach privately bellieve they should forfeit, but that would never happen. If they made such a suggestion, they'd be silenced and eventually fired, and no other public school would hire them. That's because Catholic (oh, I'm sorry, make that non-boundary schools) are hated by their public counterparts for having one advantage. The fact that the table of advantages is otherwise totally stacked against Catholic schools makes no difference.
The other 4 threads and the newspaper article are saying Fenwick sued and filed an injunction.
When the Fenwick coach did not pull his team off the field until the rule in question was clarified (yes, he should have known the rule. He is the one ultimately responsible for protecting his team's interests, not the officials), he agreed to continue playing the game. His team did not execute when needed. If your head does go ballistic, would you please clean up the mess.
Hey......... fenwick should have stopped the easy off tackle run.... bartman lives, he is a fenwick grad!
In addition, the Fenwick coach should have known that throwing the ball down field to no one is a penalty, and since it is a known penalty, he should have known what the outcome of the penalty, at the end of a game, would or should be. So, in addition to the officials' mistake, the coach made a series of mistakes that hurt his team. If you're the Fenwick coach, you walk out to the middle of the field, call over the PN coach and the officials, and pull out your copy of the rule book. And from this time forward, every HS coach in Illinois should do exactly that.
Unfortunately there is no rules meetings to attend anymore. All meetings are done online. All officials are required to watch the rules meetings, but the schools are required to have at least one coach watch it. It can be a assistant freshmen coach, doesn't matter.
Thanks for correcting me ref 2--been some time since I attended a meeting. Make more sense to do it online! The point I am trying to make is that Fenwick coaches should know the rules!
Not really. 90% or more coaches would never call that play. Most would take the safety and run out the clock. As a matter of fact as big as that line is most would run out the clock instead of kneeling. The coach screwed up big time and hoping a rule bail him out. Especially since he didn't know the rule.
By the way, fenwick, how about getting a mascot that doesn't look like moe from the three stooges... kinda freaky.....