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They are not innocent. They were stealing your fellow farmers' crops.
 
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gilbert pribble said:
I am worried that the NCAA is still pissed about Renaldo Sidney. Remember that the NCAA punishes you on what they think you did, not on what they can prove you did. Hypothetical question - If these recruiting violations turn out to be major in nature with major penalties, should Mullen be fired?
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I have yet to see anywhere and hear from anybody close to the situation that major penalties were ever considered
 
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gilbert pribble said:
I am worried that the NCAA is still pissed about Renaldo Sidney. Remember that the NCAA punishes you on what they think you did, not on what they can prove you did. Hypothetical question - If these recruiting violations turn out to be major in nature with major penalties, should Mullen be fired?
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very good 15th post...thx
 
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Yeah, I have to agree with you. Fire Mullen over this? Of course not ... he didn't even know anything about it. Based on what we've been told, it was a rookie coach trying to make a name for himself and crossed the line. And even that may not be true. And at this point, they couldn't care less about Renaldo [sic] Sidney.
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Ain't that the truth. The NCAA already gave us the harshest punishment they could over the Renardo, they let him play.
 
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gilbert pribble said:
I am worried that the NCAA is still pissed about Renaldo Sidney. Remember that the NCAA punishes you on what they think you did, not on what they can prove you did. Hypothetical question - If these recruiting violations turn out to be major in nature with major penalties, should Mullen be fired?
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The soccer player!?**
 
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shsdawg said:
Ain't that the truth. The NCAA already gave us the harshest punishment they could over the Renardo, they let him play.
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Also we were effectively under probation for five years under Crooms for all practical purposes.
 
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gilbert pribble said:
I am worried that the NCAA is still pissed about Renaldo Sidney. Remember that the NCAA punishes you on what they think you did, not on what they can prove you did. Hypothetical question - If these recruiting violations turn out to be major in nature with major penalties, should Mullen be fired?
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South Carolina was found guilty of passing around $59,000 in crootin benefits. They got 6 scholarships and 3 years probation with no bowl bans.

We're being rung up for $100 handshakes and a jacket.

You do the math.
 
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Why wait?

It's obvious this guy isn't actually a fan of MSU athletics. Or grown.
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  • Today, 10:42 AM
    [h=2]Thread: A little birdie just told me...[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]NCAA[/h]
    I am worried that the NCAA is still pissed about Renaldo Sidney. Remember that the NCAA punishes you on what they think you did, not on what they can prove you did. Hypothetical question - If these...​



  • Yesterday, 02:49 PM
    [h=2]Thread: Mullen to Ark (possibly)[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]Mullen[/h]
    Mullen should come out and say right now that he is not interested and will not take the Arkansas job. What is his buyout anyway? Will the NCAA crap hurt his chances to get the Arkansas job? If the...​



  • Yesterday, 10:40 AM
    [h=2]Thread: Bears spin Texas ***-kicking into a recruiting win...[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]The main reason that Mullen's recruiting improved...[/h]
    The main reason that Mullen's recruiting improved was not because of Mullen, but because of Houston Nutt and his inept and lazy staff. I think it will be a lot harder now that Bucky is at TSUN.​



  • 09-14-2012, 04:33 PM
    [h=2]Thread: Buy/Sell-Texas having to go to Oxford is as insulting as tMSU going to Troy[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]Does this really get shown on the Jumbotron?[/h]


  • 09-14-2012, 04:21 PM
    [h=2]Thread: Buy/Sell-Texas having to go to Oxford is as insulting as tMSU going to Troy[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]Steve "Rose Bowl" Robertson, is that you?[/h]
    Steve "Rose Bowl" Robertson, is that you?​



  • 09-14-2012, 03:02 PM
    [h=2]Thread: Buy/Sell-Texas having to go to Oxford is as insulting as tMSU going to Troy[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]The most positive thing about this weekend is...[/h]
    The most positive thing about this weekend is that win or lose, State will still be leading the SEC West on Monday. CHAMPIONSHIPS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​



  • 09-14-2012, 10:37 AM
    [h=2]Thread: Buy/Sell-Texas having to go to Oxford is as insulting as tMSU going to Troy[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]Are you serious?[/h]
    Oxford was just ranked #2 in the list of Best College Towns by somebody. The Grove was named the top tailgating spot in the country. Also, Ole Miss was named the most beautiful college in the...​



  • 09-13-2012, 05:20 PM
    [h=2]Thread: Now DeVinner is claiming[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]There has to some truth to his bulls*** or we...[/h]
    There has to some truth to his bulls*** or we wouldn't have had to get rid of Angelo. Just saying.​



  • 09-13-2012, 05:14 PM
    [h=2]Thread: Any other dawgs going to Oxford this weekend?[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]The fact that we have a thread on Sixpack talking...[/h]
    The fact that we have a thread on Sixpack talking about who is going to the Grove this weekend is F'N PITIFUL.​



  • 09-13-2012, 05:11 PM
    [h=2]Thread: Joe Schad is a disgraceful reporter[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]Mullen needs to learn not to piss off the media...[/h]
    Mullen needs to learn not to piss off the media people. Especially one with a national following. STUPID.​



  • 09-11-2012, 10:36 AM
    [h=2]Thread: So what is this article I kept hearing rumored all day going to say?....[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]I agree with you. Trust me. We don't want the Cam...[/h]
    I agree with you. Trust me. We don't want the Cam Newton thing to be brought up again.​



  • 09-10-2012, 10:26 AM
    [h=2]Thread: Interesting Twitter conversation I had today. I didn't even respond to last one[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]Urban Meyer[/h]
    Urban Meyer leaked info to ESPN about Cam Neton. That is one of the main reasons he left Florida and the SEC.​



  • 08-24-2012, 09:22 AM
    [h=2]Thread: Perspective[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]Ole Miss self-reported violations back in the...[/h]
    Ole Miss self-reported violations back in the 1980s and the NCAA hammered them. I think that the NCAA doesn't punish you for what they can prove you have done, but punishes you for what they think...​



  • 08-23-2012, 05:22 PM
    [h=2]Thread: Schad reporting Mirando resigned due NCAA invest[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]I just hope it doesn't lead into any further...[/h]
    I just hope it doesn't lead into any further investigation of our athletic program. I think the NCAA is still pissed about Renaldo Sidney.​



  • 08-23-2012, 11:42 AM
    [h=2]Thread: Is the phrase "The School Up North"/ "TSUN" getting old??...[/h]by gilbert pribble

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    [h=3]Brand?[/h]
    With all due respect, what brand? Nationwide anyway. We are the poorest and fattest state in the nation. We also have a history of race relations that is disgraceful, at least to most of the nation....​



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