A little perspective on the basketball transfer issue...

[squirldawg]

Go to the following link to look at transfers of players from schools after the 2008 season. This is a college basketball issue, not a Stansbury issue. Check out Indiana...Wow!

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=667122

 

[Original48]

Everybody bailed. If we're comparing our transfers from '08 and potentially '09 in a stable atmosphere to what has happened at Indiana, then our situation is far more perplexing.

 

[8dog]

w/out knowing Duke Crews and Romar Smith transferred. I just assumed they graduated.

Those were pretty big losses.

 

[Faustdog]

w/out knowing Duke Crews and Romar Smith transferred. I just assumed they graduated.

Those were pretty big losses.

I thought the same thing when I saw that. I completely missed it.

 

[BlindDawg]

You ask for perspective from this crew? Good luck with that. Its interesting Ramar Smith transferred to OK City, but I don't remember seeing him on the team when we played them in exhibition this year. JaMarcus Ellis, formerly of Indiana, is the one who had like 30-something points against us that night for OKC.

 

[futaba.79]

link:

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=667122

We're not alone by any means. Look at all the Ole Miss transfers.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

or players getting significant minutes. That's what seems odd.

 

[skeptic]

Bernard Rimmer GA State 13.2 min/game 2.6 reb 2.5 ppg
Vernon Goodridge LaSalle 21 min/game 5.9 reb 6.9 ppg
Reginald Delk Louisville 6 min/game 0.6 reb 1.8 ppg
Richard Delk Troy 32 min/game 4.8 reb 13.8 ppg

Doesn't look like we lost a lot with our big men leaving.
At least Reggie is behind a pretty good group of players keeping min/game down.

Unless there are injury issues, Rimmer and Goodridge are showing that even in lesser leagues, they aren't playing well enough for us to miss them.

 

[8dog]

about Goodridge or Rimmer. Everyone's point has been that we lose too many starters or guys that give significant minutes.

 

[skeptic]

I would love to see the Delks in this four guard set. Just wanted to get the numbers here as the end of the regular season.

Also, UM has 4 transfers out playing this year, and 2 left last year to play next year.

I agree it is an NCAA problem, SEC seems worse than most, MSU one of many.
The difference: 3 starters in 2 years.

 

[msudawg12]

and who has ever heard of Bowie State (where duke crews went)

 

[dawgstudent]

but their laser 3 point shots, not so much.

 

[patdog]

USC's coach has strong ties to USM (his dad used to coach there). My guess is that he had to cut the guy at USC and helped steer him to USM.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

a while back. Maybe when Barnes was busy shitting the bed. He had just been fired by the Bulls I think. I thought we had a shot with the MS connection. ALas, Boone didn't follow my line of thinking

 

[msudawg12]

I didn't know that. Interesting.

 

[mstateglfr]

Go to the following ]http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=667122[/url]

Dear Lord make it stop.

the issue is transfers, its transfers who are STARTERS/IMPACT PLAYERS. nobody gives a **** if Rimmer transfers, thats understandable. players who arent good enough to crack the rotation and leave are common and will never stop. those players are expected. what isnt expected is players that leave who are good enough to start/play significant minutes. THATS what kills us.
MSU isnt good enough to be a great team without experience on the roster. And what could become that experience keeps leaving!

Indiana had high transfers because most of their players were kicked off the team for drugs and lack of care towards school. Then there were a couple that left because by then the team was decimated and they didnt want to play with some walkons and get crushed over and over and over again by the likes of Penn State and Northwestern.
If ever there are players on MSU's roster that the coach kicks off because of drugs(like IU), then you wont hear a peep out of me.

Same goes for Tennessee's Smith and Crews. They didnt transfer, they were kicked off the team. HUGE difference...though the question needs to be asked- why were such messed up people signed to them?

 

[AlCoDog]

they were kicked off of the team for drugs or something. I'm pretty sure neither was a case of being unhappy.

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2008/may/02/duke-crews-and-ramar-smith-not-return/

Here it is