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MSUDC11

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Vegas not impressed by A&M. Not sure I am either. I will give them credit for the close loss to Bama, but let’s not forget that 5-7 Ole Miss had a three TD lead on Bama at one point last season. Didn’t matter one bit when they were getting waxed by Vandy and a bad MSU team.

We have the better QB, running game, and defense. We’ve played a tougher all around schedule and have a better win than any of theirs. We deserve to be favored in this game.
 

Shamoan

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they are a 35 point lead meltdown away from being 6-1 and being the only team to hang (relatively) with bama. i dont get this line.
 

Dawgzilla

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The crazy part is that the line moved so quickly. It opened as A&M -2, and went to MSU -1.5 in just a few hours. That means money came in on State pretty quickly. Not sure who was all set to put their money on the Bulldogs, but with a lifetime of experience I would have advised them against it.
 

MSUDC11

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Which of their wins is impressive? They’ve struggled with Nicholls and ULL, barely beaten bad Arkansas and Florida teams, and beat SC (who lost to Kentucky) by a touchdown at home.

I don’t get the line of “if they hadn’t blown a 35 point lead” being an argument in their favor. The fact that they are capable of doing that raises huge red flags about this team.

They did play Bama closer than anyone else, but Bama has played a terrible schedule so far. 5-0 in conference play, but four of those wins are against teams that are a combined 1-15. And that great opening week win against Florida State? FSU is 2-4. Obviously Bama passes the eye test and A&M played a decent game against them, but being the only team to hang with Bama isn’t saying much when Bama has played nothing but bad teams otherwise.
 
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they are a 35 point lead meltdown away from being 6-1 and being the only team to hang (relatively) with bama. i dont get this line.

They are also a few bad bounces away from being 2-5 with losses to Nicholls State and Arkansas. I think A&M should probably be a slight favorite at home too, but let’s not play the “their record is almost...” game.
 

msstate7

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they are a 35 point lead meltdown away from being 6-1 and being the only team to hang (relatively) with bama. i dont get this line.

Then bet aTm.

The hanging with Bama is the only impressive thing they’ve done this year. Barely beat Nicholls state, struggled with ull for over a half, went to OT with ark, barely beat South Carolina at home, and should’ve lost to Florida (Florida outgained them by over 100 yards — 371 to 263)
 

ronpolk

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they are a 35 point lead meltdown away from being 6-1 and being the only team to hang (relatively) with bama. i dont get this line.

A 35 point lead meltdown away from being 6-1? That’s like saying we are a 39 point *** kicking away from being 6-1. Makes no sense. It happened, which is probably why the line is like it is.
 

stateu1

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they are a 35 point lead meltdown away from being 6-1 and being the only team to hang (relatively) with bama. i dont get this line.

Kentucky is a 45-7 *** beating from us away from being 6-1 too.
 

patdog

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Kentucky was a last minute score by Florida away from being 6-0 coming in to Starkville last weekend. How'd that work out for them?
 

QuaoarsKing

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Vegas has figured out that Sumlin's A&M teams fall apart in the second half of the season every year and is factoring that into their lines.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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Saw him in an interview today

said, he was now playing more players, to cut down on the late season fatigue.

1A and 1B works when you have them.
 

Shamoan

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I don't bet, sooo....

I think y'all are really selling aTm short. This game is a toss up. What else needs to be said, just giving an alternative viewpoint, but crucify away.
 

Boosh

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"but with a lifetime of experience I would have advised them against it"

This. Never bet on MSU. When you know they should win, they won't. And when you know they should lose, they won't. Fans with a lifetime of experience know this.
 

ronpolk

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I don't bet, sooo....

I think y'all are really selling aTm short. This game is a toss up. What else needs to be said, just giving an alternative viewpoint, but crucify away.

I don’t think anyone is selling them short. I think everyone just thinks saying a blown 5 TD lead away from being 6-1 is dumb. I would be willing to bet most people agree with you that its a toss up.
 

Shamoan

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i was stating my opinion (not getting the line) and then stating the fact that it was a toss up by the bookmakers.
 

Shamoan

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the backups and probably 3rd string were in with that type of lead and ucla had less than a 1% chance to win. a 44-10 lead evaporated when said backups started playing and by the time the starters returned, momentum had swung. not sure why those facts are dumb, but ok. point is, 5 td leads dont get surrendered unless teams call off the dogs, relax, and allows things go sideways. i wouldnt expect that to figure into our game whatsoever. most teams that have 5 td leads should probably win the game. nothing more or less.
 

patdog

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So? A&M will almost certainly make a bowl game too. I really only care what they do this weekend though. And blowing a 31 point lead to a mediocre UCLA team doesn't impress me any more than losing a close game to a mediocre Florida team did.
 

Shamoan

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it was a 34 point lead, but that is irrelevant. im not arguing what impresses you, just defending my stance that aTm probably (using a literal sense of the word), should be 6-1. that obviously didnt happen, but according to probability, it should have.
 

patdog

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5 TD leads shouldn't get surrendered ever. And, in fact, it's only happened 1 other time in NCAA history.
 

patdog

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No. They should be what they are. You can't play the "what if" game. If you do, almost every team should be a game or 2 better than what they are. We "should" have finished 8-4 last year. Alabama "should" have won another national title. I could go on forever with this. But the facts are, if you lose the damn game, it's because you deserved to lose.
 

Shamoan

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I'm not sure you caught my emphasis on the term probably. If you think I'm arguing that they should be 6-1, you are entirely mistaken.
 

kired

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What is their secondary like? Auburn and Georgia's secondary was really tight.
They do not have a Georgia / Auburn secondary.

As a whole team, I'd rank A&M a little lower than LSU. They do have the advantage of playing at home, so there's that. We should be the better team if we can limit big plays & turnovers.
 

paindonthurt_

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So what if they were 6 and 1? Wasn’t Kentucky 6 and 1 with SIMILAR/not same schedule strength?
 

FlotownDawg

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Even the "moral victory" against Alabama isn't all that impressive if you really look at it. Bama was up 24-3 early in the third quarter and took their foot off the gas. Even then, it took a fumble giving A&M a short field that led to one touchdown and A&M's other touchdown was with 17 seconds remaining in the game to get it to within eight. The game was never as close as the final score indicated. That is really A&M's only "impressive" performance of the season and it wasn't even really that impressive. They also have a close win against Nicholls, a game against ULL they were losing at halftime, an OT victory against a terrible Arkansas team and a 2-point win over a mediocre Florida team that outgained them by 100 yards. I'm not scared.
 
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ronpolk

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Even the "moral victory" against Alabama isn't all that impressive if you really look at it. Bama was up 24-3 early in the third quarter and took their foot off the gas. Even then, it took a fumble giving A&M a short field that led to one touchdown and A&M's other touchdown was with 17 seconds remaining in the game to get it to within eight. The game was never as close as the final score indicated. That is really A&M's only "impressive" performance of the season and it wasn't even really that impressive. They also have a close win against Nicholls, a game against ULL they were losing at halftime, an OT victory against a terrible Arkansas team and a 2-point win over a mediocre Florida team that outgained them by 100 yards. I'm not scared.

But if it was not for blowing a 5 TD lead, they would be 6-1**
 
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