A time for a little Friday Feel Good..............

[tbaydog]

http://www.youtube.com/embed/MA0Sfli_8RI?rel=0

It will be great when they remake this including the new NC

 

[jb1020]

I might be wrong

but I think you might be the only State fan that likes seeing State hi lights set to Dixie?

I couldn't watch. Sorry

 

[AssEndDawg]

but I think you might be the only State fan that likes seeing State hi lights set to Dixie?

I couldn't watch. Sorry

Just because Ole Miss swiped it does not change the song. Love me some Dixie as every good southern boy should.

 

[AHSDawg]

Agreed. Say what you will but Dixie will NEVER be music to my ears. Although I do continue to love hearing Bears discuss how they aren't racist.

 

[AHSDawg]

Also, had some Auburn fans ask me this week why TSUN bans sticks at games...

That is still a classic. We don't want you bringing the rebel flag in but we don't want the backlash of banning the flag, so lets ban the sticks!

 

[Hail State]

Agree 100%. Most people don't realize the Famous Maroon Band played Dixie long before Ole Miss did. A certain contingent of our fan base really should drop the racist angle in their campaign against Ole Miss. Dixie and the Confederate Flag are certainly not racist and have just as much, if not more to do with Mississippi State (being the most Mississippi school) than they do with Ole Miss.

 

[Bigdaddydog]

Please explain

Agree 100%. Most people don't realize the Famous Maroon Band played Dixie long before Ole Miss did. A certain contingent of our fan base really should drop the racist angle in their campaign against Ole Miss. Dixie and the Confederate Flag are certainly not racist and have just as much, if not more to do with Mississippi State (being the most Mississippi school) than they do with Ole Miss.

Please enlighten me how Dixie and the Confederate flag are not racist. Rather than flat out telling you otherwise, I would like to understand where you are coming from. I would like to see this point of contention buried at some point in my lifetime. No sarcasterisks.

 

[MrKotter]

Please enlighten me how Dixie and the Confederate flag are not racist. Rather than flat out telling you otherwise, I would like to understand where you are coming from. I would like to see this point of contention buried at some point in my lifetime. No sarcasterisks.

You need to crack a book for once in your life.

 

[NTDawg]

Not understanding that those were used as symbols of oppression is ignorance at best. But can we please debate this on a day when we aren't the number one team in the country about to play the biggest game in the history of our program.

Today I want to make history not debate it.

THIS IS OUR DAY

 

[Bigdaddydog]

Okay MrKotter

You need to crack a book for once in your life.

Alright man. Have a blessed day. Go dawgs and Hail State!

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

I wish we didn't the Ole Miss fight song. It's like putting highlights to the Horst Wessel Lied.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Agree 100%. Most people don't realize the Famous Maroon Band played Dixie long before Ole Miss did. A certain contingent of our fan base really should drop the racist angle in their campaign against Ole Miss. Dixie and the Confederate Flag are certainly not racist and have just as much, if not more to do with Mississippi State (being the most Mississippi school) than they do with Ole Miss.

It may or not be "racist", but it's the song of loser. We don't go around singing the national anthem of Germany or Japan, do we?

 

[tbaydog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie

It may or not be "racist", but it's the song of loser. We don't go around singing the national anthem of Germany or Japan, do we?

Mutt, you left yourself open for this:

Prior Bob Tyler, Loser
Bob Tyler, Break even
Rocky Felker, Loser
Jackie, Break even
Sly, Loser
Danny, winner

MSU all time win 500, Losses 538

 

[ArcherSPS]

It was a war fought over the right to own another human being. That song and that flag bring so many negative connotations and you know it. I wish we'd go ahead and change our state flag. Before you have a stroke, yes I've lived here my whole life.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

On-field or off-field? The all-time On The Field record is 520-518. We ARE winners. It's just that for too long, Miss. State was happy to be 2nd fiddle to the ole miss. Jackie Sherrill ended that ********.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Agree 100%. Most people don't realize the Famous Maroon Band played Dixie long before Ole Miss did. A certain contingent of our fan base really should drop the racist angle in their campaign against Ole Miss. Dixie and the Confederate Flag are certainly not racist and have just as much, if not more to do with Mississippi State (being the most Mississippi school) than they do with Ole Miss.

From the Mississippi Declaration of Secession, a document the state of Mississippi released in 1861 to explain why it was seceding: (http://www.civil-war.net/pages/mississippi_declaration.asp)

A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union

In the momentous step, which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product, which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

The hostility to this institution commenced before the adoption of the Constitution, and was manifested in the well-known Ordinance of 1787, in regard to the Northwestern Territory.

The feeling increased, until, in 1819-20, it deprived the South of more than half the vast territory acquired from France.
The same hostility dismembered Texas and seized upon all the territory acquired from Mexico.

It has grown until it denies the right of property in slaves, and refuses protection to that right on the high seas, in the Territories, and wherever the government of the United States had jurisdiction.

It refuses the admission of new slave States into the Union, and seeks to extinguish it by confining it within its present limits, denying the power of expansion.

It tramples the original equality of the South under foot.

It has nullified the Fugitive Slave Law in almost every free State in the Union, and has utterly broken the compact, which our fathers pledged their faith to maintain.

It advocates negro equality, socially and politically, and promotes insurrection and incendiarism in our midst.

It has enlisted its press, its pulpit and its schools against us, until the whole popular mind of the North is excited and inflamed with prejudice.
It has made combinations and formed associations to carry out its schemes of emancipation in the States and wherever else slavery exists.
It seeks not to elevate or to support the slave, but to destroy his present condition without providing a better.

It has invaded a State, and invested with the honors of martyrdom the wretch whose purpose was to apply flames to our dwellings, and the weapons of destruction to our lives.

It has broken every compact into which it has entered for our security.

It has given indubitable evidence of its design to ruin our agriculture, to prostrate our industrial pursuits and to destroy our social system.
It knows no relenting or hesitation in its purposes; it stops not in its march of aggression, and leaves us no room to hope for cessation or for pause.

It has recently obtained control of the Government, by the prosecution of its unhallowed schemes, and destroyed the last expectation of living together in friendship and brotherhood.

Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. It is not a matter of choice, but of necessity. We must either submit to degradation, and to the loss of property worth four billions of money, or we must secede from the Union framed by our fathers, to secure this as well as every other species of property. For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England.

Our decision is made. We follow their footsteps. We embrace the alternative of separation; and for the reasons here stated, we resolve to maintain our rights with the full consciousness of the justice of our course, and the undoubting belief of our ability to maintain it.

While you can point out that the U.S. flag flew over slavery too, the U.S. flag has stood for so much more than that. The Confederacy existed to protect slavery and never got the chance to stand for anything else. Maybe had the Confederacy won the war, it would have gotten rid of slavery and turned into a thriving, freedom-loving state like the USA*. Maybe that flag would have stormed the beaches at Normandy and Incheon alongside the U.S. flag and wouldn't be considered racist today. However, that did not happen, and all the Confederacy ever existed for was to represent slave owners who were afraid that the U.S. would end slavery.

*--I highly doubt it. A Confederacy that made it to 2014 would at best resemble Mexico ecomically, and with all of the inequality and lack of social mobility, it would have been highly susceptible to a Communist revolution in the early 20th century, so maybe Cuba would be a better comparison. But since that's speculation we can pretend the CSA would have turned into another USA.\



As far as Dixie goes, the song was originally written for blackface minstrel shows in which a white actor portrayed as a caricature of a slave was wishing he could be back on the plantation. Granted, most people who sing it today don't realize this, and probably aren't trying to be racist on purpose or anything, but you can see why people would consider it problematic...