AAU re-admission

[Husker.Wed._rivals]

So a group called the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) sent a letter to the Association of American Universities (AAU) saying NU should be denied re-admission to the prestigious AAU organization. As you recall after being a member for a hundred years the board voted us out with Michigan casting the deciding expel vote. UNL has gone to great lengths to get invited back and I think we are almost there, now this. The ringleader, a Rutgers journalism professor objected to UNL cutting four departments such as Fashion Design.

I hate these bleeding hearts sticking their noses into NU's financial business. Being as he lives in New Jersey he has no concept of citizens of a state becoming outraged over property taxes. Another good reason to hang 70 on Rutgers in November.

 

[king_kong__]

I like not being in the AAU

It’s funny

Higher education died long ago & is never coming back

 

[mgbreeze]

I like not being in the AAU

It’s funny

Higher education died long ago & is never coming back

Football fans that barely graduated HS bringing up AAU membership is peak comedy.

 

[Pennsyhuskers]

I like not being in the AAU

It’s funny

Higher education died long ago & is never coming back

As a retired professor I endorse this message.
Colleges are an overpriced con job. I think the entire edifice of higher ed is a joke that should be scrapped for newer models of education.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

I feel like Nebraska brought this upon themselves with (once again) piss-poor leadership at multiple levels. Kind of a recurring theme.

 

[dinglefritz]

I feel like Nebraska brought this upon themselves with (once again) piss-poor leadership at multiple levels. Kind of a recurring theme.

The framework for this problem started many decades ago and included multiple terms of Democrat governors as well as Republican. It wasn’t a problem until a B1G “partner” made it a problem because we didn’t conform to their state college structure. It’s a technicality exploited by a vindictive conference member.

 

[Huskers12345]

Does it actually provide a measurable benefit, or are people just trying to check a box to check a box? At one point people were saying we were doing great without it.

 

[davecisar]

We’ve seen what being a “Michigan man” really means in the last decade
Need we say more?

 

[Charlie Marlow]

The framework for this problem started many decades ago and included multiple terms of Democrat governors as well as Republican. It wasn’t a problem until a B1G “partner” made it a problem because we didn’t conform to their state college structure. It’s a technicality exploited by a vindictive conference member.

That’s not what I was talking about though.

 

[dinglefritz]

That’s not what I was talking about though.

So enlighten us to what exactly you were implying.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

So enlighten us to what exactly you were implying.

I was responding to the original post?
I thought it was pretty straight forward?

 

[dinglefritz]

I was responding to the original post?
I thought it was pretty straight forward?

So who are you blaming for a “lack of leadership”? The current UN president, unicameral and Governor have tried to change the structure of the university system to placate the AAU.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

So who are you blaming for a “lack of leadership”? The current UN president, unicameral and Governor have tried to change the structure of the university system to placate the AAU.

Again, you are confusing two separate issues. Ask one of your friends or family members to help you out with this one

 

[dinglefritz]

Again, you are confusing two separate issues. Ask one of your friends or family members to help you out with this one

I think you need to be specific about who you’re blaming for what and why. Otherwise your post doesn’t make much sense.

 

[inWV]

The framework for this problem started many decades ago and included multiple terms of Democrat governors as well as Republican. It wasn’t a problem until a B1G “partner” made it a problem because we didn’t conform to their state college structure. It’s a technicality exploited by a vindictive conference member.

Nebraska joined the B1G in 2011. The last Democrat to occupy the Guv's seat in NE was Nelson, who exited for an eventual Senate seat in 2001. The unicam is officially non-partisan, but that has always been a pretty conservative bunch of folks. The move to the B1G made some sense from a football perspective and the league offers better competition for the other sports. It didn't make sense from the academic side. UNL is a nice university and some of the science programs on the ag side are quite good. Plant Physiology is very well respected. The field station on Lake Mac is a jewel of the university and is something many universities don't have.
Farmers are cheap, many didn't go to college and thus don't see the need to make the kind of investments needed to make UNL more competitive on the academic side. And the population size of the state doesn't really support that either, although I do know KU has more respect as an academic institution. I had an old engineer tell me that they preferred KU grads over UNL grads.
I had a great time at UNL, had good to really good professors, and found my career trajectory there. It's a fine university that is reputationally inferior to its conference peers. And if the league had known the football team was going to be a losing machine for nearly a decade, I doubt they would have extended the invite. But they did for Tom Osborne.

 

[GeorgeFlippin]

As a retired professor I endorse this message.
Colleges are an overpriced con job. I think the entire edifice of higher ed is a joke that should be scrapped for newer models of education.

Here's a challenging question Professor, who did you like more, Mary Ann or Ginger?

 

[dinglefritz]

Nebraska joined the B1G in 2011. The last Democrat to occupy the Guv's seat in NE was Nelson, who exited for an eventual Senate seat in 2001. The unicam is officially non-partisan, but that has always been a pretty conservative bunch of folks. The move to the B1G made some sense from a football perspective and the league offers better competition for the other sports. It didn't make sense from the academic side. UNL is a nice university and some of the science programs on the ag side are quite good. Plant Physiology is very well respected. The field station on Lake Mac is a jewel of the university and is something many universities don't have.
Farmers are cheap, many didn't go to college and thus don't see the need to make the kind of investments needed to make UNL more competitive on the academic side. And the population size of the state doesn't really support that either, although I do know KU has more respect as an academic institution. I had an old engineer tell me that they preferred KU grads over UNL grads.
I had a great time at UNL, had good to really good professors, and found my career trajectory there. It's a fine university that is reputationally inferior to its conference peers. And if the league had known the football team was going to be a losing machine for nearly a decade, I doubt they would have extended the invite. But they did for Tom Osborne.

It’s more a function of population and tax base than it is “farmers are cheap”. Nebraska farmers are taxed inordinately more than their Neighbors. So majors in fashion and ethnic studies make NU a better research university? Nebraska has spent hundreds of millions of dollars over the past 20 years on improving their medical, agricultural, and engineering facilities and research potential. I continue to be amazed at the money we’ve invested in our University.

Frankly I really don’t give a flying fudge about the AAU but some of you seem to have your panties in a wad over it.

 

[Mr_Jnasty]

Our country is a food importer. Produce and meat prices are rising exponentially. Our water is being bought by a handful of people and is being siphoned off to foreign countries or to these damn data centers. Our education system should be working towards reintroducing family farms, combating the sell off of our water, and fighting like hell to "blame the bean" as it pertains to these newly introduced patented seeds the bayer company (German) is about to start flooding our farms with. I don't give a crap about the "prestige" of these la-tee-da academic organizations until we fix what we've broken.

 

[dinglefritz]

Our country is a food importer. Produce and meat prices are rising exponentially. Our water is being bought by a handful of people and is being siphoned off to foreign countries or to these damn data centers. Our education system should be working towards reintroducing family farms, combating the sell off of our water, and fighting like hell to "blame the bean" as it pertains to these newly introduced patented seeds the bayer company (German) is about to start flooding our farms with. I don't give a crap about the "prestige" of these la-tee-da academic organizations until we fix what we've broken.

The problem for the “family farm” model is the tax code has incentivized artificial investment in advanced technology and equipment. We need fewer and fewer workers and the equipment requires more and more acres to justify the overhead. Most successful family farms are now incorporated. It’s about the only way to keep kids on the farm. The “family farms” you’re romanticizing about are now little more than hobby farms. I farm 450 acres. When I was a kid, that was a fairly large family farm. Now it’s a hobby farm.

As far as importing food goes, we’re still I think the largest exporter of grain and meat in the world. We import a lot of fruits, vegetables and processed foods. We’re still a bread basket for the world.

 

[Mr_Jnasty]

The problem for the “family farm” model is the tax code has incentivized artificial investment in advanced technology and equipment. We need fewer and fewer workers and the equipment requires more and more acres to justify the overhead. Most successful family farms are now incorporated. It’s about the only way to keep kids on the farm. The “family farms” you’re romanticizing about are now little more than hobby farms. I farm 450 acres. When I was a kid, that was a fairly large family farm. Now it’s a hobby farm.

As far as importing food goes, we’re still I think the largest exporter of grain and meat in the world. We import a lot of fruits, vegetables and processed foods. We’re still a bread basket for the world.

I grew up on a farm/ ranch with around 1100 head. Depending on year could be a bit more or a bit less. It was a multi family affair. What you are saying is correct. That's the way things are. Alot of reasons why I feel like it's not going to go well, down the road, for us though.

 

[dinglefritz]

I grew up on a farm/ ranch with around 1100 head. Depending on year could be a bit more or a bit less. It was a multi family affair. What you are saying is correct. That's the way things are. Alot of reasons why I feel like it's not going to go well, down the road, for us though.

1100 cows or feeders?

 

[but.i.digress]

Mr. GeorgeFlippin, that's a trick question. Ginger is pictured first, with Mary Ann being shown second. The question asks who is better liked, Mary Ann or Ginger. The pictures are reversed to the word order of the question. This may cause immense confusion and consternation among the problem solving challenged group. I implore you to rectify this situation. Oh, the humanity. but i digress

 

[Mr_Jnasty]

1100 cows or feeders?

Beef cows.

 

[inWV]

It’s more a function of population and tax base than it is “farmers are cheap”. Nebraska farmers are taxed inordinately more than their Neighbors. So majors in fashion and ethnic studies make NU a better research university? Nebraska has spent hundreds of millions of dollars over the past 20 years on improving their medical, agricultural, and engineering facilities and research potential. I continue to be amazed at the money we’ve invested in our University.

Frankly I really don’t give a flying fudge about the AAU but some of you seem to have your panties in a wad over it.

I don't really care about it either. I'm not sure what the profs in fashion design were doing, but from a casual search of other U's that can focus on the creative side, production or the business side. If find the study of ethnicity fascinating and I'm sure it lends insight into how we live together on the country and the planet. Comprehensive universities offer experiences that aren't everyone's cup of tea. Aggressive slashing of academic programs brings reputational damage. I'm sure UNL wants to compete for the best incoming talent the state has to offer. If it is perceived as not just a football school, but a school where only football is valued, that talent can and will go elsewhere.
Everyone thinks their taxes are too high.

 

[Pennsyhuskers]

Here's a challenging question Professor, who did you like more, Mary Ann or Ginger?

Mary Ann!

 

[dinglefritz]

Beef cows.

That’s a lot of work and maybe enough to support 3 families in good years. The drought this year was a back breaker for many.

 

[Vanhusker]

Mary Ann!

Mary Ann is the one and only correct answer

 

[Hairliphenry]

Football fans that barely graduated HS bringing up AAU membership is peak comedy.

If you say so, Biff

 

[Zeke Husker]

The original Big Ten Members don’t want to see Nebraska in the conference. We thought the big 12 didn’t care for us but this is worse. All we can do is beat their asses badly on the fields and courts.

 

[Huskers12345]

Nebraska joined the B1G in 2011. The last Democrat to occupy the Guv's seat in NE was Nelson, who exited for an eventual Senate seat in 2001. The unicam is officially non-partisan, but that has always been a pretty conservative bunch of folks. The move to the B1G made some sense from a football perspective and the league offers better competition for the other sports. It didn't make sense from the academic side. UNL is a nice university and some of the science programs on the ag side are quite good. Plant Physiology is very well respected. The field station on Lake Mac is a jewel of the university and is something many universities don't have.
Farmers are cheap, many didn't go to college and thus don't see the need to make the kind of investments needed to make UNL more competitive on the academic side. And the population size of the state doesn't really support that either, although I do know KU has more respect as an academic institution. I had an old engineer tell me that they preferred KU grads over UNL grads.
I had a great time at UNL, had good to really good professors, and found my career trajectory there. It's a fine university that is reputationally inferior to its conference peers. And if the league had known the football team was going to be a losing machine for nearly a decade, I doubt they would have extended the invite. But they did for Tom Osborne.

The Big 10 more than got their money's worth out of NU. They ran us through the gauntlet and got big TV ratings. The conference is all about TV money and we still are a top draw, even with our mediocre football.

 

[Huskers12345]

It’s more a function of population and tax base than it is “farmers are cheap”. Nebraska farmers are taxed inordinately more than their Neighbors. So majors in fashion and ethnic studies make NU a better research university? Nebraska has spent hundreds of millions of dollars over the past 20 years on improving their medical, agricultural, and engineering facilities and research potential. I continue to be amazed at the money we’ve invested in our University.

Frankly I really don’t give a flying fudge about the AAU but some of you seem to have your panties in a wad over it.

Agland valued at $500,000 is taxed less than a property in town with a house valued at $500,000.

 

[Huskers12345]

Our country is a food importer. Produce and meat prices are rising exponentially. Our water is being bought by a handful of people and is being siphoned off to foreign countries or to these damn data centers. Our education system should be working towards reintroducing family farms, combating the sell off of our water, and fighting like hell to "blame the bean" as it pertains to these newly introduced patented seeds the bayer company (German) is about to start flooding our farms with. I don't give a crap about the "prestige" of these la-tee-da academic organizations until we fix what we've broken.

Subsidies killed family farms. Simple as that. Less risk = less diversification. Less diversification = more reliance on the government. Endless cycle.

 

[dinglefritz]

Agland valued at $500,000 is taxed less than a property in town with a house valued at $500,000.

Per thousand valuation ag land in South Dakota is taxed at a fraction of Nebraska.

 

[Huskers12345]

Per thousand valuation ag land in South Dakota is taxed at a fraction of Nebraska.

I think you must be talking about state neighbors. I took neighbors as in town. Carry on.

 

[Stlhuskers]

The departments cut were Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Educational Administration, Statistics & Textiles, Merchandising and Fashion Design. If I wanted to create a strong application to be readmitted to the AAU, I don't think cutting my Statistics Dept is a good step.
UNL is the least expensive school in the Big 10 to attend for in-state tuition. Racing to the bottom is not a good strategy. Nebraska needs to decide if it is competing for the community college student in Nebraska or if it wants to be a strong regional Ag, Science, Research institution. It will also need graduate programs in many of the departments and have undergrad departments that can be found at the other Big 10 schools (ex. Statistics). It will take money (state funding, increased tuition, research grants, etc.) to attract promising young academics and build top research facilities. Engineering has made some strong efforts recently but that needs to happen in Ag/Tech/Sci as well. Programs like the Raikes School should be highlighted and similar designs duplicated in other academic areas where possible. I believe first-time student numbers are up across the Nebraska campuses. I don't know what percentage is community college vs. UNL.

 

[bigboxes]

Here's a challenging question Professor, who did you like more, Mary Ann or Ginger?

Mary Ann was like Miss Nevada or something like that.

 

[dinglefritz]

The departments cut were Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Educational Administration, Statistics & Textiles, Merchandising and Fashion Design. If I wanted to create a strong application to be readmitted to the AAU, I don't think cutting my Statistics Dept is a good step.
UNL is the least expensive school in the Big 10 to attend for in-state tuition. Racing to the bottom is not a good strategy. Nebraska needs to decide if it is competing for the community college student in Nebraska or if it wants to be a strong regional Ag, Science, Research institution. It will also need graduate programs in many of the departments and have undergrad departments that can be found at the other Big 10 schools (ex. Statistics). It will take money (state funding, increased tuition, research grants, etc.) to attract promising young academics and build top research facilities. Engineering has made some strong efforts recently but that needs to happen in Ag/Tech/Sci as well. Programs like the Raikes School should be highlighted and similar designs duplicated in other academic areas where possible. I believe first-time student numbers are up across the Nebraska campuses. I don't know what percentage is community college vs. UNL.

I’m sure they looked at the departments where they had the strong st faculty, largest student participation, and greatest return on investment and cut those. Not.

Do we want our university spending wisely on their curriculum or do we want to try to be everything for everybody? They did away with Statistics AND Textiles. Not Statistics in the math department. Do you believe we have ANY textile manufacturing jobs in Nebraska? Usually what happens is wanted or needed courses get rolled in to other related departments.

Educational Administration? LOL. That generates a ton of research dollars and prestige I’m sure. Every administrator I know who got a masters so they could become a fat lazy principal did it either over the summer OR via night classes at a small state college. Now they can do most of it online. It’s a joke. Something tells me that you’re an educational administrator of some type.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

They did away with Statistics AND Textiles. Not Statistics in the math department.

JFC dingle

 

[Husker.Wed._rivals]

The departments cut were Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Educational Administration, Statistics & Textiles, Merchandising and Fashion Design. If I wanted to create a strong application to be readmitted to the AAU, I don't think cutting my Statistics Dept is a good step.
UNL is the least expensive school in the Big 10 to attend for in-state tuition. Racing to the bottom is not a good strategy. Nebraska needs to decide if it is competing for the community college student in Nebraska or if it wants to be a strong regional Ag, Science, Research institution. It will also need graduate programs in many of the departments and have undergrad departments that can be found at the other Big 10 schools (ex. Statistics). It will take money (state funding, increased tuition, research grants, etc.) to attract promising young academics and build top research facilities. Engineering has made some strong efforts recently but that needs to happen in Ag/Tech/Sci as well. Programs like the Raikes School should be highlighted and similar designs duplicated in other academic areas where possible. I believe first-time student numbers are up across the Nebraska campuses. I don't know what percentage is community college vs. UNL.

Did you hear about the statistician who drowned in water that averaged one inch deep?

 

[mgbreeze]

If you say so, Biff

Must've touched a nerve? Not sure what your point is. Did you know Biff Poggi graduated from Duke?