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Dawg4Life

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These kids have to go through a lot just to play this game on this stage.

Most fans are clueless when it comes to football or any other sport. I'm always amused when people think they can "expect" a certain number of wins, or think they know how far the corners should play off the line or any other way they think they can second-guess the coaches and players.

I like Coach Mullen's approach to the game. I like that he speaks his mind clearly and honestly when he's passionate about something and I like that he's discreet in terms of player statuses and stuff like that.

That's not going to stop ignorant fans from spouting off their opinions or stop reporters from asking questions that they know he's not going to answer (and shouldn't answer). It's just a statement of how things are in today's world of sports.
 
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DirtyLopez

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***** and complain and act like a dumb 17 on the message boards and in the stands by booing. A player drops a pass and people start calling them names and talking bad about their mama's. Then, Bumphis tweets about it and they get all pissy about that. That is the sixpack way though.
 

Incognegro

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and other's as well.I have no problem with fans getting passionate and showing their frustrations when things for their respective teams just seem to not go the way that they'd want it to, but when it comes down to attacks of individual players and those connected through them, then it really makes you wonder about the mentality of these people. When I read a lot of people going to the extent of saying someone is a waste of human flesh because they miss blocks or drop passes more than what they are expected of, it's pretty disheartening.<div>
</div><div>I firmly believe that football (and other sports like it) are honestly more than a game as I've seen the capabilities of how many lives it's been able to change, good or bad. That does not change the fact that a lot of these individuals that are playing these games for theirs and others enjoyments are people too, and to take it a step further go through probably more things than most people could realize. I understand the argument that they should expect the things they have to deal with other people because it comes with theterritory, but that doesn't excuse us as fans for acting in the ways we do, especially when it's negative.</div>
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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I have played some type of sports most of my life. Now, it was not in front of 55,000 pluspeople every weekend, but I have a damn good idea about sports and competition, and I absolutely agree with this, and what DM has to say about the situation.

When you sign up for a Major College Scholarship, you are stepping into a different area, but WE have to recognize that they are still kids(despite 6P Rules).
 

DirtyLopez

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it doesn't do any good. What good does it do to whine that a player sucks on a message board after a bad play? It doesn't change anything. Talk amongst your friends about how we suck, but don't put it out for public consumption. All it does is give nix something to print out and hand out to recruits.
 

Incognegro

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It seemed to talk about the pressure athletes are under that people don't seem to realize solely from a fans standpoint. It seemed to talk about fans as a whole and not just MSU's fanbase.<div>
</div><div>I do agree that a majority of the criticism I have seen lately has been aimed at the coaches, but I have seen quite a few tasteless ones aimed at the players. One I remember was about Clausell being a waste of sperm and space. I just don't think **** like that is called for in a public board.</div>
 

Barksaholic

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That he kept saying "chat line". Hadn't heard that one in a looong time.

Otherwise, I enjoyed his honesty and candor. Very refreshing to hear a coach speak directly on topic.
 

aerodawg.sixpack

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I enjoy when players play well or play with all their effort and are the best option at their position. I hate when a player has the ability to be great but can't consistently produce mediocre results. I would never condone someone harassing a player or doing acts like tweeting them as if they are old friends. I think those people are pathetic. Even worse are the people that are actually friends and family giving them a hard time personally.

Who in the hell calls some guy because he is famous to pray for your family personally? Those people are sick and egotistical maniacs because they believe it is ok to do something like that.

I have no doubt that the players are under a lot of pressure and that people should be ashamed to try to "backseat coach" them on a personal level.

With that said, some Joe Blow on an internet message board saying something about a player when they are playing consistently bad should be expected. These players are not forced to play college ball, it is a privilege. If they can't handle some negative reinforcement then I question what the coaches do to make these players better each week. I guess this country has gotten so pussified that we have to coddle young men who can't play mediocre on a consistent basis, much less up to their potential. I guess we should just continue to watch and somehow start enjoying Relf making awful throws, Charles Mitchell whiffing tackles and coverage, and Receivers dropping balls because, bless their little hearts, it is too much pressure on them by Joe Blow when he expresses his frustration on a message board.
 

Griffdawg

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Because if anyone here thinks the pressure to win is great at MSU,compare it to Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA, Florida, etc.
 

MaroonedNdaRock

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Regarding people getting involved in the personal lives of collegeathletes in person or on the internet, I think he is totally right.Give them some space outside the sports arena.

Regarding fans second guessing players and coaches,I disagree. Sports ain't rocket science. Anybody can see whenan athlete is or isn't performing. Anybody can see when a certain style of play isn't working or another style is working.We can't run the ball becauseour OL isn't executing. We can't throw because the QB (in the 1st half)can not execute that style of play. Wecan't stop some teams because welacksize and athletisim.We had better athletes than UAB........sodefense wasn't a problem. Now maybe in the NFL, where the talent level is so close for each team, it is aboutXs and Os and the little things. But not college football......not for the most part.
 

Todd4State

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That's the bottom line. I know that I certainly get criticized in my line of work- both good and bad, and in my case mostly good. I've had people say things that you wouldn't believe to my face- also both good and bad. Now, I don't get headlines or ahve my performance rated on TV or whatever- sure, and I'm sure that the "pressure" that these players face is more than what I face. The "bad" criticism that I face is no less personal. But the point remains, everyone gets criticized and people say things that they shouldn't in ALL walks of life. The criticism that these players are facing will help him in their life to deal with things and it will make them better at whatever they do- because it will make them mentally tougher.

So, it's not something that we can avoid, and because we know that, we should be asking "what are we doing to help our players deal with criticism and pressure?" rather than "Well, golly gee, they're just kids". If we have players that are not performing because of pressure and criticism, then MSU's athletic dept. is failing them- because we are not preparing them properly.

We need to make sure that we teach our players how to handle criticism because that is part of it- but the reward is also great for them for putting up with it, including a free education and a chance to make millions of dollars and have fame and prestige. Not very many MSU students have that opportunity- even the ones that will go on to become doctors, businessmen, and etc. So, it goes both ways. If you want fame, glory, and etc. there is a price to pay, and your public performance is part of that.

The second part to this was about Tim Tebow- and that's a little bit of a different animal because Tebow is more of a celebrity than anything. The media has chosen him for whatever reason and chosen to glorify him. I think some of it is because of Christian faith and being so open about it, and also being genuine about it. And I also think it's because he is someone that is a great athlete that has the athletic ability and charisma to be a star in the NFL, but at the same time he is very unconventional for what the NFL is looking for in a QB. And I think the media finds that very intruiging- whether he is going to make it or not.

Tebow has asked for none of this "celebrity" status stuff- so I do feel for him in that regard, but at the same time, all of these players want to be the star, so there are things that you have to deal with if you want that to happen. It's no different than a rock star or an actor. Difference is, you don't see too many people saying that you should feel sorry for Johnny Depp.
 
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that over the offseason asked fans not to tell players how great they are but to ask them if they're working hard and to get their work done over the summer? Didn't he specifically say not hype the players and make them feel special?
 

mcdawg22

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This guy has got my back. To me nothing rallies the troops like "it's us against the world." to qupte 311, 17 the naysayers because they don't mean a thing. The one problem I do have is how Mullen points to the Mom and Uncle and it seems those people tend to be his achilles heel when it comes to closing the deal come signing day. Maybe we need to send Mullen to the Bill Clinton school of charming mothers and kissing babies.