ACC Football Rx Prescription for ACC Football

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If the Big XII really does break up at the end of its Grant-of-Rights period, and IF Texas decides to jump ship, what factors might lead them to the ACC?

1. LHN - Let's face it, Texas ain't coming to the ACC to be just another school. If they come at all, they'll want to keep the LHN - which probably means doing a Notre Dame-like deal...

2. Scheduling Games In-State. For the 2019 season, the 'Horns were guaranteed at least 10 games in-state (7 in-conference, 3 out-of-conference). By comparison, how would a partial football membership in the ACC look? Assuming 5 games per year like Notre Dame, they would alternate between 2 and 3 home games against the ACC.

3. A League of Academic Peers.

If the other ACC teams would agree to take on a second partial member, I see no reason why it couldn't off the Longhorns a deal every bit as sweet as what the SEC could offer them. And if this resulted in the dissolution of the Big XII and a champs-only CFP model.
 
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They are talking about both them and Oklahoma.




The conference has haphazardly expanded.
Then they locked them into an ACC Network that doesn't work.


Believe it is Sun Sports. They had a contract to Florida State that would pay more than the ACc Network is giving them.
Sun Sports lost the third tier rights with the University of Florida when the SEC Network started.

So Florida State is taking a L to stay in the ACC and giving that money to Pitt and Boston College
 

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Good content Allen. Here’s what I see and KNOW. First these articles that are written are always the WHAT IF deals. There’s two realities that are fact. First is most Texas insiders and Big12 insiders overvalue U of Texas brand greatly. It’s a regional brand, as far as people that actually give a **** about Texas, that is nowhere near the National and International brand that ND is. Putting those two brands in the same sentence is a joke. U of Texas found that out the hard way when both the Big Ten and the ACC told them to pound salt when they overreached in the last expansion period. That LHN is a total loser. ESPN has taken a blood bath supporting that thing. I’ve been told from a very high level that it’s a total misfire. Second, the ACC is open to a deal but not one that’s less than the ND deal. So anything under 5 ACC games is off the table. Unless of course something has changed recently but I don’t see that happening. ESPN will broker if Big12 implodes, which I don’t personally think it will. So the deal that would be acceptable would have to benefit the ACC greatly. Not an extra few mill. The ultimate goal for the ACC I would think would be to get ND as a full member maybe bring Maryland back with them. Obviously Texas is a huge name that would work but it’s not a perfect fit and would be constant drama with that obnoxious University.
This is Greg. Mickey is doing great and I’m a granddad now!!!

@TownesVanZandt weren‘t you the jerk trying to discredit everything I posted regarding last expansion cycle and then claims the ACC was getting poached and soon to be imploding a few years ago? Am I thinking of someone else.
 
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You are too busy living off in your own world, Greggy

Regional brand/National brand

Doesn't matter. They are the #1 brand in college sports. Regardless of where their support comes from.

The fact that their support is tied to state pride means it won't disappear.

Regarding the ACC. I don't think you have a clue where the conference sees themselves.
The have a giant sitting on their doorstep that they have to compete with on a daily basis. I would even throw in the N Carolina schools into this.
Because the SEC wants NC State.


Can you compete against the SEC is all they care about.

#1 objective in the ACC is to compete in their local market.
That is against the SEC.
 
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Texas fits because the SEC West revolves around them.
Arkansas, LSU, A&M and the Mississippi schools.

ACC wants the big states. Texas, Georgia, S Carolina, Florida, N Carolina and Virginia
Then possibly fill the rest of the conference with smaller ones.
Oklahoma...W Virginia?,
 

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You are too busy living off in your own world, Greggy

Regional brand/National brand

Doesn't matter. They are the #1 brand in college sports. Regardless of where their support comes from.

The fact that their support is tied to state pride means it won't disappear.

Regarding the ACC. I don't think you have a clue where the conference sees themselves.
The have a giant sitting on their doorstep that they have to compete with on a daily basis. I would even throw in the N Carolina schools into this.
Because the SEC wants NC State.


Can you compete against the SEC is all they care about.

#1 objective in the ACC is to compete in their local market.
That is against the SEC.


Yeah I thought you were that loose canon. “They” being ND course. I agree with you. Regarding the ACC topic you have zero credibility or actual knowledge so not worth my time. You getting your vaccine son? Stay safe out there pal.
 
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Yeah I thought you were that loose canon. “They” being ND course. I agree with you. Regarding the ACC topic you have zero credibility or actual knowledge so not worth my time. You getting your vaccine son? Stay safe out there pal.

This isn't a matter of perspective

This is a matter of hard data
Texas gets the #1 deal from Nike
Texas earns the most money from college licensing.
Texas brings in the most revenue in college sports.

Everything you are saying doesn't mean anything.
This isn't the world according to Greg Jacobs.
This is the world according to facts

Everyone thinks differently.
But at the end of the day what matters is how many people think a certain way compared to others.

You are wasting your time trying to deny truth.
 

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This isn't a matter of perspective

This is a matter of hard data
Texas gets the #1 deal from Nike
Texas earns the most money from college licensing.
Texas brings in the most revenue in college sports.

Everything you are saying doesn't mean anything.
This isn't the world according to Greg Jacobs.
This is the world according to facts

Everyone thinks differently.
But at the end of the day what matters is how many people think a certain way compared to others.

You are wasting your time trying to deny truth.


So a guy, you, on a free website with zero idea thinks he knows what moves the needle. So Pitt, Cuse and Louisville get into the ACC yet Texas doesn’t. Where’s the money in that deal? The ACC and Big Ten told Texas no thanks when they played their cards. That’s a fact sir.
Feel free to discredit what I told you. Stay ignorant pal it’s all good. LOL at what you sited being relevant to this situation. What you stated wasn’t enough for Texas last time to get into another conference except for PAC12. They just knew the PAC12 is dead man walking. You keep focusing on money yet Pitt, Cuse and Ville got bids. Here’s Texas possible coming back to these conferences. Heck I didn’t write that article. This has nothing to do with it being my world pal. All I did was tell you what I know from the inside. Is everything? Of course not I don’t know everything. Could it be different now? Sure! Feel free to disregard anything you like pal. It’s all good.
 
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At least have some knowledge if you want to sound like you are in the know.
Same with football itself.
You are clueless.


Texas never wanted into the ACC. They tried to bring in the valuable schools at the time. Clemson and Florida State.
ACC jumped on a horrible network deal. Maybe one of the stupidest contracts ever signed in college sports.

ACC can't grow. Stuck. Chasing ND a school that won't come unless you bring in more games.
 
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Have to understand history.

ND didn't play in bowls for 50 years because they were meaningless.
The first two they played were in the Cotton Bowl vs Texas

Oklahoma's winning steak was snapped by ND.

USC..
ND traveled across the country to play them. Only school they have to play every year
 
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Pretty simple..

Join the SEC or B1G
Create another conference for the rest.

Some of these schools like the latter. Not particularly interested in either conference.

Every school in the PAC 12, ACC and Big 12 is living this reality.

Because of the power of television not all schools have the same value.
About increasing your value. Some are lucky because their power increases without doing anything...
More people in their state.
 
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The ACC will always share a footprint with the SEC and there is nothing they or ESPN can do about that. Where I live in South Carolina DirecTV requires you to take the SEC Network. They also encourage you to take the ACC Network. When my sweetheart deal and then customer retention deals ran out with DirecTV I went back to Dish Network.

If you take the SEC Dish also requires you to take the ACC Network. No thank you if I want to see a game I can get it online or with ESPN plus. I'm not paying for an also-ran network from a conference that sees WV as a traitor to VA. Texas is fine right where they are. They are always perceived as 'this coming season they will be back!' Perception equates to reality.
 
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The new SEC contract can hurt Texas.

They signed a huge first tier contract with ESPN
This is the contract that is putting the pressure on the schools. Even the B1G has to react.

The crazy thing is both the B1G and Big 12 tv contracts open around the same time.
Makes more sense for Kansas and OU but the B1G wants to hit big for their final two spots.

Texas goes to the B1G the game is over for everyone.
But the situation is Texas really isn't comfortable with that conference but if it comes to it they will take the $$$$$ and not worry about conference realignment. Just be Texas. It would be a huge weight off their shoulders.

Matter of fitting into a conference that plays hockey.

Some of those ACC schools see the same thing as Texas.
Don't want to be in the B1G nor the SEC
 

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Taking a casual poll here. . .

Other than clown shoes, his side kick WVUFF, and their three dozen shared profiles, who on this WVU sports site gives three ***** about Texas?
 

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Taking a casual poll here. . .

Other than clown shoes, his side kick WVUFF, and their three dozen shared profiles, who on this WVU sports site gives three ***** about Texas?



Not me. Although I respect Texas as a state everything associated with Austin is garbage. U of Texas is so overrated as a partner program it’s hilarious. They care only about themselves and could care less about any other partner program.

Having @townsishistory on ignore is actually comical. I could only imagine how funny it is him arguing with himself about me 😂
 
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Not me. Although I respect Texas as a state everything associated with Austin is garbage. U of Texas is so overrated as a partner program it’s hilarious. They care only about themselves and could care less about any other partner program.

Having @townsishistory on ignore is actually comical. I could only imagine how funny it is him arguing with himself about me 😂

I broke you.
You are a horrible troll because you cannot think in a logical way.
So when facts are presented you breakdown mentally.


Interesting connection between N Carolina and Texas...
Where the name Tar Heel started to become well known

The State of North Carolina was the next to last state to secede from the United States of America, and as a result the state was nicknamed "the reluctant state" by others in the south. The joke circulating around at the beginning of the war went something like: "Got any tar?" "No, Jeff Davis has bought it all." "What for?" "To put on you fellows' heels to make you stick." As the war continued, many North Carolinian troops developed smart replies to this term of ridicule: The 4th Texas Infantry lost its flag at Sharpsburg. As they were passing by the 6th North Carolina a few days afterward, the Texans called out, "Tar Heels!", and the reply was, "If'n you had had some tar on your heels, you would have brought your flag back from Sharpsburg."[9]



You know the N Carolina state flag came after the Civil War....
Looks pretty similar to Texas.
 

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Upset that WVU has choices...

Their choice will depend on what Texas does.

Not that hard to figure out
I'm guessing WVU is a big boy school and will do what's best for them. I don't believe they're planning to hold onto Texas coattails and do as they say. There's a reason why other schools told Texas to go F themselves, so WVU certainly wouldn't be the first.
 

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That would be Texas looking East...
Oh, so you're of the opinion that Texas will move East, aka, moving to the ACC, and upon moving, they'll immediately hold the ACC hostage, by insisting they take WVU with them, despite the FACT that the ACC doesn't want any part of WVU. We've known this now for what, 50 or 60 years? Why would big bad Texas go to bat for WVU? What's their inspiration for wanting WVU to be a part of anything they get involved with? I'm asking seriously, because I don't see the connection with Texas and WVU. One is the 2nd largest state in the country, with more resources than everybody else, and WV is a relatively small state with not nearly the resources that Texas possesses. What is the connection, that leads you to believe the Horns give two ***** about WVU?
 
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Oh, so you're of the opinion that Texas will move East, aka, moving to the ACC, and upon moving, they'll immediately hold the ACC hostage, by insisting they take WVU with them, despite the FACT that the ACC doesn't want any part of WVU. We've known this now for what, 50 or 60 years? Why would big bad Texas go to bat for WVU? What's their inspiration for wanting WVU to be a part of anything they get involved with? I'm asking seriously, because I don't see the connection with Texas and WVU. One is the 2nd largest state in the country, with more resources than everybody else, and WV is a relatively small state with not nearly the resources that Texas possesses. What is the connection, that leads you to believe the Horns give two ***** about WVU?

ACC has other issues.
Schools who don't bring anything to table.
Schools who do and the SEC wants.

Ultimately the direction they go will determine a lot.
Texas will go if they have the power in votes.
This includes any school in the Big 12 that can generate revenue who they will want to bring in.

This includes WVU. .


The rest of the stuff doesn't matter.
Texas might use the B1G as leverage with ESPN.

B1G had their track meet the other day in the Houston area.
Hosted by Nebraska through a HBCU Prairie View A&M.

I guess they do the same thing in Florida as well.

B1G wants access to talent rich states. Probably needs it in every sport