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Message: <blockquote data-quote="topdecktiger" data-source="post: 129603864" data-attributes="member: 1459051">No, I'm not mistaken at all. See, now this is not theoretical anymore. It's already happened, so you can't keep arguing when the actual outcome has proven you wrong.I'll tell you this until you get it through your thick head. ESPN is not paying twice for rights. The ACC will get paid with profits from the network, exactly like you just mentioned happens with the SEC. Profits from the network are not fees for rights. Rights fees and profits from subscription fees are completely different.Here is what you don't get. The ACC and SEC have exactly the same amount of inventory. Each conference has 14 schools, which is a total of 112 football games per year. (CBS owns a few of the SEC's games, plus a few games are OOC road games for each conference, but that doesn't matter for this comparison purposes.) ESPN owns all the ACC's rights, so that 112 total games, so that's 112 games of total inventory ESPN has available. (Again, not counting some road OOC games.) The point is, the SEC's expansion didn't give them any more inventory than the ACC has. Both leagues have the exact number of games. In fact, the ACC actually has a few extra games for their network, because of the SEC's deal with CBS.Now this gets to the point that you keep dodging, and you dodge it because it completely undermines your argument. Since ESPN owns all the ACC's rights, there is nothing for ESPN to put on the network that won't result in the ACC being "paid twice." Even the Raycom games are owned by ESPN, not the ACC. So by your logic, the ACC can't get paid, since ESPN already owns all of the games. Well, obviously that's not true. The ACC is going to get paid. That money has to come from somewhere. That somewhere is the subscription fees. Again, no matter how much you argue against it, subscription fees and rights fees are not the same thing.</blockquote>

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