According to a tweet from Jeff Hoover the new state budget gives state employees a raise except teachers.....
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You get the pay in the end either way. So you take all the extra days at the end of 30 years. So how is it not the same thing?
For all the complaints of the lavish $38,000 a year teacher starting salary (after taking on $50,000 in student loan debt), the fact that they actually get (GASP) sick days, and once had a pension (which has now been replaced by a hybrid 401k type plan with no social security) . . . I have wonderful news! The opportunity is there for you! Attrition takes out half of new hires by year 5 and enrollment at teacher prep programs are at historic lows. Lots of openings this fall to be had, so you can live the dream yourself! Go for it!
I dont think the problem is paying them more, I think it's we know our tax money won't reach them...the boards will swallow it all up for themselves.
I know a few years ago, Fayette earmarked money for technology improvements...what happened is the board bought themselves Mac books. Nothing for the students or teachers.
Then we got a property tax raise for "safety" without our input...who knows what they spent that on.
What exactly do they do during planning? Grade papers and such? I honestly don't know. Sounds good depending on your department...whats a PE teacher do during planning, work on his J? Would probably be beneficial to have if you're an English teacher grading essays that need feedback.
Get rid of unions...I don't even know how this is a debate after the last 2 years.
Get rid of dept of education...numbers show the decline in ed since it started. Shoukd the Federal government be involved in such things? That's what's weird...teachers lose their mind if ppl want a say in education, but are completely fine with a central planner overlaying everything on them. The founders were pro education, they were not pro Federal education.
And imo, teaching has to be a calling. Priests don't complain about pay, they were "called" to do it.
Get rid of unions...I don't even know how this is a debate after the last 2 years.
Get rid of dept of education...numbers show the decline in ed since it started. Shoukd the Federal government be involved in such things? That's what's weird...teachers lose their mind if ppl want a say in education, but are completely fine with a central planner overlaying everything on them. The founders were pro education, they were not pro Federal education.
And imo, teaching has to be a calling. Priests don't complain about pay, they were "called" to do it.
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Planning is used to grade papers, answer emails, and to plan for the next day-week lesson plans. Usually they do a week at a time and adjust accordingly.
Teachers have to produce lesson plans for each class every day. Where I went to school, PE teachers also taught health classes and driver's ed.
Getting rid of unions isn't the answer. It's one of the biggest reasons why the size of gap between rank and file employee and executive pay has gone through the roof and why so many people are having to live paycheck to paycheck. You take away the power from the rank and file and the executives are always going to take advantage for their own personal benefit.
Biggest problem with outside influence in education is people who don't know jack **** about education want to have a big say in it. Kind of like when coaches and players get pissed off at media who have never coached or played a second of organized sports beyond middle or high school, if even that much.
But priests also get a ton of stuff given to them. Having tax-free housing provided is a pretty significant one. For a lot of people, that amounts to around an extra $10-12K+ a year in gross income.
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Believe it or not PE teachers actually have lesson plans. When I was in school you either lifted weights, played basketball or sat on the bleachers. Now they have to teach units on different sports or physical activities.
I send my kids to private school right now because public schools decided to shut down last year for extended periods of time. The intent was to send them to public school, but a bunch of whiny, public school teachers made sure that wasn't an option.
This thread is proof that a lot of teachers don't really care about education. All they want is a paycheck and more vacation days.
This thread is proof you don’t respect teachers. A big problem is parents want no part in supporting their kids academic progress. But you do you.
I suppose some of the training is voluntary and if teachers have no desire to better themselves or learn new teaching strategies then they could choose to do only mandatory training required by the district. If that is the case then they would have more time off but I don't know how any KY teacher could go to Colorado for the entire summer.
This may be true with high school teachers as that building clears out fast but my wife and daughter who teach elementary school are both at school at least an hour after kids leave getting ready for the next day. If they don't then they have to go in early to get ready.
It's been said many times but if school starts at 8:00 that busses start dropping kids off around 7:30 so teachers have to be there when kids start coming in. They also have to stay to get kids on the bus and probably get ready for the next day so they don't leave as soon as the last bell rings. As far as lunch goes they get 20-25 minutes but usually eat with the kids so it's not like they are napping. And their planning period is usually spent meeting with a whiny parent or having PLC meetings. If it isn't then they are actually planning.
Yeah. Who here has not had to cancel or reschedule a vacation because of work? Out of the three months a teacher has off, we should get teary eyed because her planned vacation occurred when she had training? Wow.
Yeah it sounds like there are a bunch of dudes on here are jealous of the sweet gig that teachers have. You know making lots of money, working 6 hours a day doing nothing, have great benefits and all while getting nothing but love and admiration from parents, students and state leaders. Maybe you are right and they really should change careers for one of those soon to be opening jobs.
Damn, if this information had only been revealed when they chose their profession. I hear nuns are bitching a lot too about the pay and dress code. Victims of fraudulent enticement!
the governor doesn't make the budget or even approve the budget lol
I am on my planning period right now. It's actually just about over (38 min). Here's what I did, it's a pretty average planning period.
- Fine tuned a lesson on Reconstruction I'm giving today
- Made copies
- Called a parent while copies were running
- Went to find assistant principal to talk about above parent conversation
- Pooped
- Responded to this thread (while pooping)
- Fine tuned a lesson on Reconstruction I'm giving today
- Made copies
- Called a parent while copies were running
- Went to find assistant principal to talk about above parent conversation
- Pooped
- Responded to this thread (while pooping)
Is posting in GYERO while taking a crap becoming a trend?
This place really IS getting old:
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This place really IS getting old:
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I thought everyone's best work came from when we're on the can.
Was it a good poop? I had one the other day ago that I was so proud of I nearly took a picture of it lol
I don't respect whiny bitches. Sorry if that hits too close to home for you.
The teachers at my kid's school are saints IMO.
Self employed. I get no paid vacation or sick days. I have responsibilities that must be covered day, night, sick, or out of town. I pay taxes when my company makes money and again when I want to keep some of it. My employees depend on me, customers and renters need me to fix things even when I have to go into their COVID quarantined space to make repairs. My starting salary was zero and I have no retirement or health benefits.
I'm not complaining about my job though, because I chose to do it and enjoy doing it. If I ever decide I don't like it, I'm intelligent enough to do something different rather than blame everyone else for my dissatisfaction.
You just described why I don’t respect you hoss
You sure post a lot during the day.So they stay until 4?
I didn't realize they had it so hard
Waiting on attorneys for a closing while I eat lunch.You sure post a lot during the day.
Nope. Not whining a bit. Just pointing out how stupid teachers unions and their sycophants sound acting like their situations are uniquely difficult.But your not whining
Our schools don't start letting students out until 3:20 and it's usually at least 4:30 before most elementary teachers get to leave. Of course they also are there around 7:15 so you know according to some on here a typical 6 hour work day.So they stay until 4?
I didn't realize they had it so hard
Exactly. Can't count how many family things I missed work wise. Worked so many days in a row before, literally had no idea what day it was.
Ain't feeling sorry for someone hwo gets at least 3 months in a row off. Gets every holiday known to man off. Spare me the whining from them. DO not care.
Spare me. When you have to work 10-12hrs a day 7 days a week then I'll try to care. Until then....nada
Why are you being forced to work 10-12 hours per day 7 days per week? You should probably contact the dept of labor.
Whew....rough....no wonder you guys need 3 months off. Plus allthose holidays off. Must be hard finding stuff to do with all that time off.
Guy 1: “I would LOVE to know what you people saying teachers don’t have it that bad do for a living yourselves!”
Guy 2: Says what he does and compares his benefits to teachers
Guy 1, realizing the guy works pretty hard and doesn’t have as good of benefits and can’t really make fun of his profession “WHOS WHINING NOW?!?! lmao”
Guy 2: Says what he does and compares his benefits to teachers
Guy 1, realizing the guy works pretty hard and doesn’t have as good of benefits and can’t really make fun of his profession “WHOS WHINING NOW?!?! lmao”
Man....7:15am? How is that even legal? Have a heart man. And then they stay until 4:30? Are you a prison warden or something?Our schools don't start letting students out until 3:20 and it's usually at least 4:30 before most elementary teachers get to leave. Of course they also are there around 7:15 so you know according to some on here a typical 6 hour work day.