AD draft freefall poll: More overrate, the talent or the DUI?
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Tate totally blew up the combine for RBs
http://www.nfl.com/combin...ontainer-forty-yard-dash
Top 3 in most events.
http://www.nfl.com/combin...ontainer-forty-yard-dash
Top 3 in most events.
http://www.fftoolbox.com/...fm?sort=bench&pos=RB
His strength is concentrated in his lower body. I bet AD could squat a small truck and he did have one of the best broad jumps.
His strength is concentrated in his lower body. I bet AD could squat a small truck and he did have one of the best broad jumps.
Realize there have been less than 10 RBs taken - and most were in the top 60. Only McKnight & the Kentucky FB have gone since Hardesty at 59. That to me says there wasn't much need at RB. The thing is you've got 3 similar guys left in Dixon, Blount, & Dwyer. If you want one of them, you probably wait until the first one of those three is taken before making your move. So they are all three going to drop until someone can't wait any longer.
Seriously, Veazey's insistence to mention the DUI in almost every article he wrote about Dixon did have some impact on Dixon's reputation. Do you think most players with a single DUI on their record are walking around with the "character issues" badge like Dixon is? Without Veazey's consistent DUI-babbling, I seriously doubt Dixon carries the "character issues" label.
When you think of "character issues" and college football players, a Dixon should not the type of player that ought to come to mind. Dixon is no Blout.
When you think of "character issues" and college football players, a Dixon should not the type of player that ought to come to mind. Dixon is no Blout.
FlabLoser said:
To the NFL, yes absolutely. If you don't have a completely clean background, they will label you as a character question.
They raised questions about Oher's character last year. He'd never been arrested, but they considered his character a concern partially because of an incident where he beat the crap out of Antonio Turner, for good reason, and partially because of the background he came from.
So yes, any player with a DUI is going to get a "character" label with the NFL no matter what the media says about it. The CL could've tried to cover it up, and the NFL still would've raised character concerns about Dixon due to the DUI.
Apparently you've seen a handful of guys with multiple off field arrests who don't get the character label from the NFL. I'd be curious to see that list, because I bet it doesn't exist.
You name one player with nothing proven against him, then you name a school and give no examples. Terrible. Just give up. You have a hard-on for hating KV and are looking to pin something on him and have absolutely no ground to stand on.
and it won't have anything to do with the media.
Most of Hardy's issues were not drugs by the way. His issues were simply dedication to football, but yes he still had a character rap. He's a first round talent drafted in the 6th round partially because of injuries but a good bit because of his character issues.
Point is, you CAN'T name a player in the modern NFL draft that doesn't get a character rap if they have anything on their record, and it's not the beat writer's fault. The NFL has access to more than just newspaper clippings, and they get all the dirt on every player out there regardless of whether it's reported or not.
If you have issues with Veazey mentioning the DUI too often, that's one thing to gripe about, but it has nothing to do with Dixon's draft status. The character concerns exist because of the DUI, not because of the way it was reported.
Most of Hardy's issues were not drugs by the way. His issues were simply dedication to football, but yes he still had a character rap. He's a first round talent drafted in the 6th round partially because of injuries but a good bit because of his character issues.
Point is, you CAN'T name a player in the modern NFL draft that doesn't get a character rap if they have anything on their record, and it's not the beat writer's fault. The NFL has access to more than just newspaper clippings, and they get all the dirt on every player out there regardless of whether it's reported or not.
If you have issues with Veazey mentioning the DUI too often, that's one thing to gripe about, but it has nothing to do with Dixon's draft status. The character concerns exist because of the DUI, not because of the way it was reported.
Carlos Dunlap...suspended from the SEC champ game over a DWI. Most draft reports on him don't mention it. Most draft reports on Dixon mention character.RebelBruiser said:
If you've read this thread you'll see that I was half kidding regarding pinning Dixon's draft status on Veazey. I also did not say that Veazey's articles influence the NFL. But I stand by my opinion that Veazey's constant writing about the issue has contributed to Dixon carrying around a scarlet letter.
PS: as of this posting, the majority of the voters on this thread's poll agree with me that the DUI got overrated
And while I do agree with FlabLoser that it got mentioned way too many times, I don't think the fact that it got mentioned by Veazey affected his draft status. You could make a legit arguement that Croom talking down about AD hurt him more than Veazey since Croom has more legitimacy in regards to football, when it appears the reality is Croom didn't coach him very well or was able to maximize his potential. Or at least not as well as Dan and Knox did. And that's saying something since AD was the focal point of Croom's offense.
At the same time, I do agree with Flab to a degree that there is a double standard when it comes to some players. I don't remember Oher getting into that fight. How often was it mentioned by the media that Eli peed on a bush because he was drunk?
Enough of this. I'm going to Outback.
At the same time, I do agree with Flab to a degree that there is a double standard when it comes to some players. I don't remember Oher getting into that fight. How often was it mentioned by the media that Eli peed on a bush because he was drunk?
Enough of this. I'm going to Outback.
The DUI may have factored in to some degree but that wasn't the main reason he slid to the sixth. If I had to guess it was probably a combination of worries about his weight, upper body strength, workload and to some degree speed. That said I think he is a second/third round talent and while the he won't get the money he was hoping for he goes into a perfect situation. The Niners shored up the o-line in the draft with some big bruisers in the run game and he can learn from one of the better backs in the league.</p>
Any player with a DUI will besaid to have character issues, andDixon was no angel his first three years. Until Mullen got here, Dixon wasn't known forbeing the most dedicated person on the team. AD likes to have a good time, and scouts know about things like that.FlabLoser said:
Dixon had a great senior year, butCroom said some of things abouthim that he did for a reason.