Addie Deal enters transfer portal

[HawkFan10]

I think the “2nd place finish” and 2 seed might be clouding judgments. It’s easy to assume that the high seed means the core is “strong.”Their best B10 wins were all at home.

iIowa finished 10-5 to close the season and looked putrid in the last win against a bad opponent. Teams adjusted to JJs one dimensional style, overreliance on Ava, and lack of talent and shooting and athleticism everywhere but especially in the backcourt.

I think the core is vastly overrated and a huge question mark. Ava is the only player and CCw to some degree that I think you can really count on for certainty. Maybe Journey develops a handle and perimeter skills. Maybe MW is ready to contribute right away.

Iowa will need to make a big splash in the portal.

More likely they need multiple big slashes..

 

[The Big Z]

I think the “2nd place finish” and 2 seed might be clouding judgments. It’s easy to assume that the high seed means the core is “strong.”Their best B10 wins were all at home.

iIowa finished 10-5 to close the season and looked putrid in the last win against a bad opponent. Teams adjusted to JJs one dimensional style, overreliance on Ava, and lack of talent and shooting and athleticism everywhere but especially in the backcourt.

I think the core is vastly overrated and a huge question mark. Ava is the only player and CCw to some degree that I think you can really count on for certainty. Maybe Journey develops a handle and perimeter skills. Maybe MW is ready to contribute right away.

Iowa will need to make a big splash in the portal.

So beating the crap out of Michigan and making the finals of the conference tournament meant nothing? Yes, we were clearly overmatched against top 4 team (and in looking at the elite 8 scores so was everyone else) but you’re so over simplifying things. I think our lack of firepower caught up to us, plain and simple. You keep complaining about Jan’s 1 dimensional style. You give no other answer to the solution. Did you want Feurbach shooting more? Deal to play more? We had 2 scorers in the UVA game, Heiden and Stuelke, and Chit Chat had multiple chances to win the game at the line. But she didn’t. Explain what you would do differently as the coach.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

What did he say that wasn’t true. Should we not have run the offense through our best player Heiden? What did Deal do to earn more time? She got her moment on the West Coast and it was to big for her. Then we inserted Stremlow and played great down the stretch. This is all fact.

Did we? We lost in the biggest blow out in conference history, (by 51 pts), in the B1G championship, and then lost at home to a 10 seed Virginia in the NCAA. I'm not sure how its a "fact" we played great down the stretch. Frankly we didn't play well at all the last three games , and that's "down the stretch". I didn't expect we'd beat UCLA, but I sure didn't expect that we get exposed like that either, and that's after Jan said she had some new stuff up her sleeve just for that game. and Ava said in an interview that the coaches had been working on that scout since we got embarrassed out there earlier. Not sure what to even say about those comments except, I'd throw whatever they worked on in the shredder.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

With all that has been speculated about Emely for months, it is somewhat surprising that she wasn't the first player out the door when the season ended. Now, 3 players have beaten her to the punch. Perhaps she really is "evaluating her options." Any chance Addie's departure changes the equation for Emely?

Anything is possible at this point.

 

[Rpm.3185]

"I think judging a team by their W/L compared to the rest of their conference and trusting how the NCAA committee ranked them compared to the rest of the country is a good indication of strength" is a hell of a take man

What makes you think they aren't aggressively seeking scoring guards that will add said dimension and replace the mediocre performers that are leaving?

I think the “2nd place finish” and 2 seed might be clouding judgments. It’s easy to assume that the high seed means the core is “strong.” Their best B10 wins were all at home.

Iowa finished 10-5 to close the season and looked putrid in the last win against a bad opponent. Teams adjusted to JJs one dimensional style, overreliance on Ava, and lack of talent and shooting and athleticism everywhere but especially in the backcourt.

I think the core is vastly overrated and a huge question mark. Ava is the only player and CCw to some degree that I think you can really count on for certainty. Maybe Journey develops a handle and perimeter skills. Maybe MW is ready to contribute right away.

Iowa will need to make a big splash in the portal.

 

[Rpm.3185]

Did we? We lost in the biggest blow out in conference history, (by 51 pts), in the B1G championship, and then lost at home to a 10 seed Virginia in the NCAA. I'm not sure how its a "fact" we played great down the stretch. Frankly we didn't play well at all the last three games , and that's "down the stretch". I didn't expect we'd beat UCLA, but I sure didn't expect that we get exposed like that either, and that's after Jan said she had some new stuff up her sleeve just for that game. and Ava said in an interview that the coaches had been working on that scout since we got embarrassed out there earlier. Not sure what to even say about those comments except, I'd throw whatever they worked on in the shredder.

You didnt answer any of the OPs questions. We all saw UCLA crushed them and the players played tight, tentative and lacked confidence afterwards. Is it partially a coaches job to rebuild their confidence? Sure, but there's only so much they can do

I dont understand what your point is here. What specifically did Jan do, or you believe she should've done differently, that would've led to a better outcome with the existing players?

 

[Jonesy5960]

I think the “2nd place finish” and 2 seed might be clouding judgments. It’s easy to assume that the high seed means the core is “strong.”Their best B10 wins were thall at home.

iIowa finished 10-5 to close the season and looked putrid in the last win against a bad opponent. Teams adjusted to JJs one dimensional style, overreliance on Ava, and lack of talent and shooting and athleticism everywhere but especially in the backcourt.

I think the core is vastly overrated and a huge question mark. Ava is the only player and CCw to some degree that I think you can really count on for certainty. Maybe Journey develops a handle and perimeter skills. Maybe MW is ready to contribute right away.

Iowa will need to make a big splash in the portal.

That's not true. Iowa beat Maryland on the road and Michigan in the BTT. Ava will be an All American and even more effective without Hannah's defender shading down from the high post. Everyone complains about the lack of shooters and then everyone complains about losing arguably the 4 worst shooters on the team in KF, AD, HS, and TM. You know who the top 3 shooters were in terms of conference EFG%? How about Ava, Stremlow, and Journey. CCW was a 44% 3 point shooter and Stremlow was at 41%. If Jan can pick up a couple of shooters off the portal this team is off and running.

 

[Jonesy5960]

Actually yes. It was a train wreck of epic proportions. I remember watching it especially when she went 1 on 5 late in the game. You have to admit you couldn’t stop watching! lol.

And yet we have people referencing this game in an attempt to argue how great she is. I feel like I'm living in Bizarro World.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

You didnt answer any of the OPs questions. We all saw UCLA crushed them and the players played tight, tentative and lacked confidence afterwards. Is it partially a coaches job to rebuild their confidence? Sure, but there's only so much they can do

I dont understand what your point is here. What specifically did Jan do, or you believe she should've done differently, that would've led to a better outcome with the existing players?

Good Lord, get off my A--! Big Z said "we played GREAT down the stretch" Thats what I responded to. We did NOT play great down the stretch, by any metrics. "Down the stretch is basically the way you end the season. We played in the B1G champ and got absolutely woodshedded. I'm NOT sure how you can just gloss that over. I know very well UCLA has more talent, but a quality team doesn't lose by 50+ points to anyone. To me this was even worse given the public statements made by Jan and Ava, that we had "plans" for how to attack them after getting drubbed out in Cali. (Not even sure why would have given Close that bulliten board material either). We also didn't play well in either tourney game at home.

 

[The Big Z]

Did we? We lost in the biggest blow out in conference history, (by 51 pts), in the B1G championship, and then lost at home to a 10 seed Virginia in the NCAA. I'm not sure how its a "fact" we played great down the stretch. Frankly we didn't play well at all the last three games , and that's "down the stretch". I didn't expect we'd beat UCLA, but I sure didn't expect that we get exposed like that either, and that's after Jan said she had some new stuff up her sleeve just for that game. and Ava said in an interview that the coaches had been working on that scout since we got embarrassed out there earlier. Not sure what to even say about those comments except, I'd throw whatever they worked on in the shredder.

Again, the UCLA game was an embarrassment. No matter how you look at it. Facts, though dispute what you are saying. We won our last 8 games of the season, including 2 nice Big Ten tourney wins over tournament teams in Illinois and Michigan who ended up in the Elite 8. And we beat them by 17. So yes, we played great down the stretch and ended up the 2 seed. We overachieved. Have you not watched any of the tournament? Basically every game is a blowout, even 1 vs 2. And yes, we played up tight against UVA but still in the end should have won when we had our best free throw shooter at the line twice to win it. We'd have probably lost in the sweet 16 is my bet but we might have played more free and easy. Who knows. But it's disingenuous to say we played poorly down the stretch. 15-2 at home, 8-3 on the road and 27-7 overall. That's a good season.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Again, the UCLA game was an embarrassment. No matter how you look at it. Facts, though dispute what you are saying. We won our last 8 games of the season, including 2 nice Big Ten tourney wins over tournament teams in Illinois and Michigan who ended up in the Elite 8. And we beat them by 17. So yes, we played great down the stretch and ended up the 2 seed. We overachieved. Have you not watched any of the tournament? Basically every game is a blowout, even 1 vs 2. And yes, we played up tight against UVA but still in the end should have won when we had our best free throw shooter at the line twice to win it. We'd have probably lost in the sweet 16 is my bet but we might have played more free and easy. Who knows. But it's disingenuous to say we played poorly down the stretch. 15-2 at home, 8-3 on the road and 27-7 overall. That's a good season.

Again, the UCLA game was an embarrassment. No matter how you look at it. Facts, though dispute what you are saying. We won our last 8 games of the season, including 2 nice Big Ten tourney wins over tournament teams in Illinois and Michigan who ended up in the Elite 8. And we beat them by 17. So yes, we played great down the stretch and ended up the 2 seed. We overachieved. Have you not watched any of the tournament? Basically every game is a blowout, even 1 vs 2. And yes, we played up tight against UVA but still in the end should have won when we had our best free throw shooter at the line twice to win it. We'd have probably lost in the sweet 16 is my bet but we might have played more free and easy. Who knows. But it's disingenuous to say we played poorly down the stretch. 15-2 at home, 8-3 on the road and 27-7 overall. That's a good season.

Not once did I say we didn't have a good season, or that we overachieved expectations. Never said that. For some reason a couple of posters here keep twisting what I said into their own narrative. All I said was to me the way you finish the season is critical, and that's really the stretch run. You disagree, that's fine. Do show me what 2 seed was beaten by a 1 seed by 51 points though. I think I missed that one. There have been a lot of blow outs but not with two top seeds playing.

 

[Rpm.3185]

Nothing really new here, but its a good article summarizing everything that's been discussed

Saying recent portal losses reflect poorly on Jan Jensen seems unfair, misguided - Hawk Fanatic

By Pat Harty IOWA CITY, Iowa – If you say that Jan Jensen still is a work in progress as a head coach, okay, fair enough. Jensen has compiled a 50-18 record in two seasons as the Iowa women’s basketball coach, but in each season, Iowa has failed to advance past the second round of […]

hawkfanatic.com

 

[The Big Z]

Not once did I say we didn't have a good season, or that we overachieved expectations. Never said that. For some reason a couple of posters here keep twisting what I said into their own narrative. All I said was to me the way you finish the season is critical, and that's really the stretch run. You disagree, that's fine. Do show me what 2 seed was beaten by a 1 seed by 51 points though. I think I missed that one. There have been a lot of blow outs but not with two top seeds playing.

Again, the UCLA game was an embarrassment and clearly did something to our psyche. Even a 20 pt loss I would have been fine with as they are that much better than we are. But Texas beat Michigan last night in the 1-2 77-41. So while not 51 pts 36 pts is pretty embarrassing. Very little competitive balance amongst the top teams.

 

[Old_wrestling_fan2]

Actually yes. It was a train wreck of epic proportions. I remember watching it especially when she went 1 on 5 late in the game. You have to admit you couldn’t stop watching! lol.

I remember one game where ER was pretty out of control and the Asst. coaches were very visible in the background and they were NOT happy with what they were seeing. Their reaction strongly suggests to me that ER was "off script" and not playing well with others and/or per the game plan/strategy, etc. If a player is going to do that once...they're probably likely to do it again, IMO.

Wish her well and release her to "help" some other team I say.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Again, the UCLA game was an embarrassment and clearly did something to our psyche. Even a 20 pt loss I would have been fine with as they are that much better than we are. But Texas beat Michigan last night in the 1-2 77-41. So while not 51 pts 36 pts is pretty embarrassing. Very little competitive balance amongst the top teams.

There certainly is a big gap, I'll give you that. Not really sure what Michigans deal is. I wonder about their coach. I don't see how you can stay within 5 points of UConn, and UCLA, and then get neutered twice by Iowa, and then lost like that in the tournament.

 

[Hawkeye_Miguel]

I think it is pretty clear that it will be Hays. Journey's dad said she is coming back.





I mean, if it is Ava Heiden I vote we need a new staff.

Ava's not leaving. She's very close with her sister, who is a sophomore now at Liberty High School.

 

[Jonesy5960]

I remember one game where ER was pretty out of control and the Asst. coaches were very visible in the background and they were NOT happy with what they were seeing. Their reaction strongly suggests to me that ER was "off script" and not playing well with others and/or per the game plan/strategy, etc. If a player is going to do that once...they're probably likely to do it again, IMO.

Wish her well and release her to "help" some other team I say.

It was the Baylor game and I couldn't agree more. She started similarly against Miami and then we never saw her again.

 

[Rpm.3185]

There certainly is a big gap, I'll give you that. Not really sure what Michigans deal is. I wonder about their coach. I don't see how you can stay within 5 points of UConn, and UCLA, and then get neutered twice by Iowa, and then lost like that in the tournament.

I suspect its roster construction and matchups. They have very talented guards and succeed when being disruptive on defense, generating fast breaks. But they lack size and had no answer defensively to Iowa's talented bigs. We also had a lockdown perimeter defender in Kylie and Wright was able to utilize her size to slip through screens, which neutralized their best talent. I'm not familiar with TX but it seems like they have a lot of size in the front court as well

 

[*IncredibleHawk*]

I remember one game where ER was pretty out of control and the Asst. coaches were very visible in the background and they were NOT happy with what they were seeing. Their reaction strongly suggests to me that ER was "off script" and not playing well with others and/or per the game plan/strategy, etc. If a player is going to do that once...they're probably likely to do it again, IMO.

Wish her well and release her to "help" some other team I say.

I agree w/ this. I don't think there is any "fixing" to ER's game. Unfortunate, but I just don't see any way you can correct such major flaws starting with basic bball IQ's. She has a lot of talent and was the only girl on the team who could create their own offense - she just didn't seem to know when that was appropriate and when it wasn't.

 

[Hawkfan_08*]

Ava's not leaving. She's very close with her sister, who is a sophomore now at Liberty High School.

I mean, Deal's family moved here too but no, I don't really think she's leaving. I know her sister, great kid.

 

[Hawkeye_Miguel]

I mean, Deal's family moved here too but no, I don't really think she's leaving. I know her sister, great kid.

I've gotten to know both families. Ava's parents are a little more laid back with regards to her basketball. They moved here to be able to have fun going to her games, but more so, they came because Ava's an old soul and a homebody and she just likes having her family around. Ava prioritizes her academics just as much as her basketball career, and even coming in to college it wasn't necessarily a goal of hers to make a career out of basketball after college. Her parents aren't going to push her into making basketball her life if that's not what she ultimately wants.

Addie's parents are more basketball focused and hands-on, with more of a mindset that a career in basketball was the goal, and they moved with her to help her achieve that as much as they could.

 

[IowaCityLit]

So beating the crap out of Michigan and making the finals of the conference tournament meant nothing? Yes, we were clearly overmatched against top 4 team (and in looking at the elite 8 scores so was everyone else) but you’re so over simplifying things. I think our lack of firepower caught up to us, plain and simple. You keep complaining about Jan’s 1 dimensional style. You give no other answer to the solution. Did you want Feurbach shooting more? Deal to play more? We had 2 scorers in the UVA game, Heiden and Stuelke, and Chit Chat had multiple chances to win the game at the line. But she didn’t. Explain what you would do differently as the coach.

Of course. But each year is different. And sometimes segments are telling. What do you think Iowas goal should be next year?

 

[IowaCityLit]

That's not true. Iowa beat Maryland on the road and Michigan in the BTT. Ava will be an All American and even more effective without Hannah's defender shading down from the high post. Everyone complains about the lack of shooters and then everyone complains about losing arguably the 4 worst shooters on the team in KF, AD, HS, and TM. You know who the top 3 shooters were in terms of conference EFG%? How about Ava, Stremlow, and Journey. CCW was a 44% 3 point shooter and Stremlow was at 41%. If Jan can pick up a couple of shooters off the portal this team is off and running.

Journey can’t handle the ball. She can’t play the 3. She can’t shoot from the perimeter. At least not yet.

TS really wore down and her limitations nec
e more obvious the more they relied upon her. And way too many unforced turnovers. For Iowa she should be the backup 2g. She’s not starting on any of elite teams or top teams in the B10.

 

[UpstreamHawkeye]

Again, the UCLA game was an embarrassment and clearly did something to our psyche. Even a 20 pt loss I would have been fine with as they are that much better than we are. But Texas beat Michigan last night in the 1-2 77-41. So while not 51 pts 36 pts is pretty embarrassing. Very little competitive balance amongst the top teams.

And the difference between the two games is, after UCLA got to a 30 some point lead in the 4th quarter, Iowa subbed in several deep bench players but UCLA kept a couple of starters. Maybe they are just too talented and deep and don't have deep bench players to sub in. On the other hand, after Texas got a 40 point lead in the 4th quarter, Texas subbed in bench players but Michigan kept the starters in.

 

[citizenHawk1]

And the difference between the two games is, after UCLA got to a 30 some point lead in the 4th quarter, Iowa subbed in several deep bench players but UCLA kept a couple of starters. Maybe they are just too talented and deep and don't have deep bench players to sub in. On the other hand, after Texas got a 40 point lead in the 4th quarter, Texas subbed in bench players but Michigan kept the starters in.

Which is why I won't care much when Texas takes them down.

 

[The Big Z]

Of course. But each year is different. And sometimes segments are telling. What do you think Iowas goal should be next year?

I think as a program right now it should be a top 4 seed in a region and 2 home games. We have a lot of advantages other schools don’t. Nobody plays in the environment we do night after night. That needs to continue and be valued. If we falter attendance will faulter as well. We’ve valued women’s basketball as long as I can remember back when I was in school under C Vivian. Without a star like CC will we ever be able to get past a sweet 16 or elite 8? Not sure but we have a lot of advantages in women’s bball we don’t have in other sports.

 

[Rpm.3185]

I've gotten to know both families. Ava's parents are a little more laid back with regards to her basketball. They moved here to be able to have fun going to her games, but more so, they came because Ava's an old soul and a homebody and she just likes having her family around. Ava prioritizes her academics just as much as her basketball career, and even coming in to college it wasn't necessarily a goal of hers to make a career out of basketball after college. Her parents aren't going to push her into making basketball her life if that's not what she ultimately wants.

Addie's parents are more basketball focused and hands-on, with more of a mindset that a career in basketball was the goal, and they moved with her to help her achieve that as much as they could.

Things make a lot more sense now. The irony of the stated goals of each approach vs the results is not lost on me

 

[IowaCityLit]

I think as a program right now it should be a top 4 seed in a region and 2 home games. We have a lot of advantages other schools don’t. Nobody plays in the environment we do night after night. That needs to continue and be valued. If we falter attendance will faulter as well. We’ve valued women’s basketball as long as I can remember back when I was in school under C Vivian. Without a star like CC will we ever be able to get past a sweet 16 or elite 8? Not sure but we have a lot of advantages in women’s bball we don’t have in other sports.

Definitely reasonable.

 

[Rpm.3185]

Nothing really new here, but its a good article summarizing everything that's been discussed

Saying recent portal losses reflect poorly on Jan Jensen seems unfair, misguided - Hawk Fanatic

By Pat Harty IOWA CITY, Iowa – If you say that Jan Jensen still is a work in progress as a head coach, okay, fair enough. Jensen has compiled a 50-18 record in two seasons as the Iowa women’s basketball coach, but in each season, Iowa has failed to advance past the second round of […]

hawkfanatic.com

Here's prob a better article with advice/perspective a lot of folks could use

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-women/2026/03/31/addie-deal-iowa-womens-basketball-transfer-jan-jensen-transfer-portal/89406091007/

 

[Burghawk87]

Journey can’t handle the ball. She can’t play the 3. She can’t shoot from the perimeter. At least not yet.

TS really wore down and her limitations nec
e more obvious the more they relied upon her. And way too many unforced turnovers. For Iowa she should be the backup 2g. She’s not starting on any of elite teams or top teams in the B10.

But she did start for the 2nd place big ten team...

 

[Jonesy5960]

Journey can’t handle the ball. She can’t play the 3. She can’t shoot from the perimeter. At least not yet.

TS really wore down and her limitations nec
e more obvious the more they relied upon her. And way too many unforced turnovers. For Iowa she should be the backup 2g. She’s not starting on any of elite teams or top teams in the B10.

Agree to disagree. Journey and Stremlow will both be All Big before the end of their college careers.

 

[Jonesy5960]

But she did start for the 2nd place big ten team...

Details.....details..

 

[IowaCityLit]

Agree to disagree. Journey and Stremlow will both be All Big before the end of their college careers.

Fair enough. You predict them to develop skills they don’t currently possess. Which is possible.

 

[KurtWarner]

Journey can’t handle the ball. She can’t play the 3. She can’t shoot from the perimeter. At least not yet.

TS really wore down and her limitations nec
e more obvious the more they relied upon her. And way too many unforced turnovers. For Iowa she should be the backup 2g. She’s not starting on any of elite teams or top teams in the B10.

Journey has a pretty nice midrange shot actually. I didn't mind at all her shooting the 12-15 footer

 

[Tom Paris]

You got to wonder how much they are really pushing players to move on.....as in if you want to keep me as an agent its time to move schools??

I talked to a D1 assistant about a month ago and she said they are dealing more with parents now, asking for more money for their daughters. It used to be once the kid signed coaches didn’t need to kiss *** but apparently that’s changing with all the money.

 

[Tom Paris]

Good Lord, get off my A--! Big Z said "we played GREAT down the stretch" Thats what I responded to. We did NOT play great down the stretch, by any metrics. "Down the stretch is basically the way you end the season. We played in the B1G champ and got absolutely woodshedded. I'm NOT sure how you can just gloss that over. I know very well UCLA has more talent, but a quality team doesn't lose by 50+ points to anyone. To me this was even worse given the public statements made by Jan and Ava, that we had "plans" for how to attack them after getting drubbed out in Cali. (Not even sure why would have given Close that bulliten board material either). We also didn't play well in either tourney game at home.

So down the stretch is the last 3 games?? This is very subjective. Pretty good record over the last 10. Is that down the stretch? It just seems to be a take that can be manipulated to fit a narrative.

 

[Tom Paris]

Journey has a pretty nice midrange shot actually. I didn't mind at all her shooting the 12-15 footer

Which is why, if she buys in, I like seeing her at high post working high low with Heiden. Teams can’t sag off Journey there because she can bury that shot.

 

[Jonesy5960]

Fair enough. You predict them to develop skills they don’t currently possess. Which is possible.

I think that Journey is already an excellent rebounder and consistent 2 level scorer. She took very few 3 pointers but did hit 36% of those so she has the potential to become a true 3 level scorer.

Stremlow is already a 3 level scorer and the top assist player on the team. If she can cut down on her turnovers and become a more consistent double digit scorer while maintaining an elite EFG%, she'll be AllBig next year.

 

[TruthSerium]

I wasn't aware of that. Did that actually happen?

According to Tom Suter on yesterday’s Hawkfanatic show it did.

 

[TruthSerium]

I am guessing he was paraphrasing in speculation about ER.

No they talk about it and Tom said he saw the tweet.