I saw this on the 3A board and checked it out. Apparently NCHSAA are adjusting the MaxPreps rankings with some type of factor. Some big differences. The Black Knights #22 in 2A. Yeah right!
Adjusted NCHSAA rankings
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I takes margin of victory out of the ranking to discourage running up the score. Hibriten is 8th in the adjusted ranking. It is what it is.
South Point #23 and Shelby #24.
Hope no one uses these "adjusted rankings jokes" for anything serious.
Wait, I forgot, the NCHSAA is using these rankings for some of their seedings for the playoffs.
Hope no one uses these "adjusted rankings jokes" for anything serious.
Wait, I forgot, the NCHSAA is using these rankings for some of their seedings for the playoffs.
http://www.maxpreps.com/rankings/football-fall-18/1/division/nc/
This shows that WRH is 16, SWO 14 and Clinton 15. What are you all looking at?(Not being facetious)
This shows that WRH is 16, SWO 14 and Clinton 15. What are you all looking at?(Not being facetious)
I think he is referring to the adjusted NCHSAA rankings.
Click on the link provided by Beamer24 above.
If they use these for seeding ..... The best teams will be playin on the road ...if they even get in.
The best teams will be playin on the road ...if they even get in.
77, have you started to scramble through any of these very early playoff scenarios? I know there are some games to be made up and many other factors that would make it very confusing and difficult; just very curious how it would be shaking out as far as a seed for ND, having them ranked at 21 or so in the max preps rankings. Very interesting, and would be some tough early matchups it would appear.....
To your comment on the adjusted rankings, agree that they seem very strange!!!
To your comment on the adjusted rankings, agree that they seem very strange!!!
Wiz...if I remember correctly Clinton only had a 10 game schedule........have they ever scheduled 11 games and if not (with the system we now have)...that would seem to handicap them at playoff time................
Remember they used the adjusted rankings last year in the winter and spring sports; those sports where you play up to 23 or 24 games to work on your resume, and have many, many chances to play tough non-conference games to boost your strength of schedule....in football, you play 10 or 11, and if you're in a large conference, with a bunch of other teams not well thought of by the rankings, you don't get many chances to improve your ranking....on the actual website rankings from maxpreps, at least you can really improve your ranking by beating people by a lot, but as someone pointed out above, the adjusted rankings' formula omits margin of victory, ALMOST relegating us back to the days of overall record counting more than strength of schedule....of course, as someone else pointed out, conference champions and 2nd place teams will be in the playoffs no matter what, and seeded above wild card teams with higher adjusted rankings....if they're going to use the adjusted rankings, I wouldn't mind as much if they were used to see who qualifies as the wild card teams, but think the actual maxpreps website rankings would be a better indicator for how to seed the teams that did qualify, as they reward strength of schedule and margin of victory...I mean I understand the need to try to prevent teams from running up the score, BUT: We already have the running clock rule in effect, (so there's no way we're ever going to have a 1916 Georgia Tech/Cumberland College type final score) AND: How are you really supposed to determine true strength of schedule if margin of victory means nothing?
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If they finish first or second in their conference I would expect a home game.
Hard to do yet with all the games missed down East. Probably after two more weeks will become clear. As Beamer said the main issue is winning the conference. If you don't with these adjusted rankings gonna be difficult. I'll make one bold statement-in 2AA South Granville will most likely go undefeated and be the #1 seed in the East so my guess is if we advance far enough we will at some point be playing at their place!!
Beamer, if I'm reading this correctly, the conference champs are seeding 1 - # of champs based on maxpreps rankings. Then it would be 2nd place finishers based on maxpreps rankings and so on. Go to section 4.1.19 in the link below.
https://www.nchsaa.org/sites/default/files/attachments/NCHSAA_2018-19-Section4.1Competition.pdf
So for example, based on the current rankings Pisgah would get the #1 and Hibriten #2 in 2AA west (assuming that all the teams ranked above still go small 2A or east).
I think last year they used overall record after conference finish but this year it looks like it goes straight to these adjusted rankings after conference finish.
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I think the point differential is needed but with a limit. Use 21 points as the cutoff. If a team scores up 14 or 17 or 20 late that should not be a huge issue and it should be understood among all participants. 21 or 56 is the same but any score from 21 down will be calculated into the power ranking.
Yes, I believe this is what the CFP/BCS/NCAA or whatever rating system they use or used to use for college football, where winning by 21 or more gets you more power rating points than winning by 3....but winning by 70 doesn't get you any more than winning by 40
Think it's crazy Hibriten is the undefeated defending state champs and there is a chance they will not get the 1 seed, needs to be automatic if your the champs and undefeated you get the 1 seed period
Yeah, it makes no sense. But just because a team is the defending champion and undefeated does not mean they should automatically be the number one seed.
Every team has to earn the number one seed based on their play vs the competition the current year.
I TOLD you guys this over on baseball forum last year...
Wait y'all don't read those.
Never mind.
Wait y'all don't read those.
Never mind.
a joke for sure
South Point #23 and Shelby #24.
Hope no one uses these "adjusted rankings jokes" for anything serious.
Wait, I forgot, the NCHSAA is using these rankings for some of their seedings for the playoffs.
Footballstar_17, please don't use #1 in the same sentence with the word Pisgah. The s#!+ will hit the fan. Lol
It appears the NCHSAA has hired Obama to construct an equitable playoff structure for high school football in NC built along the same format as Obamacare.
No one knows how it works but trust this is best for everyone.
If they keep this formula going forward it will discourage teams scheduling tough opponents for non conference games, since this adjusted rating system rewards total wins.
Best to just schedule cup cakes for easy wins.
Best to just schedule cup cakes for easy wins.
The limit last year was 29 points. I’m sure of that part, if I recall correctly, 1-15 points counted the same & 16-28 counted as the number. It was +/- based off teams rating for Wins & Losses both.
Yes, I figured it out last year as I’m a numbers geek.
Let me give an example of the flaw in this adjusted rating system.
This Friday Reidsville will be favored by about 50 points or so over Bartlett Yancey.
Even assuming a running clock the second half, the Rams would be expected to approach the 50 point margin.
Lets say they only win by 28 which would be a very subpar performance. Yet, under the present adjusted ranking system, they would receive a 100% performance rating for the game. Whereas they should be penalized, as they would be by Simmons or MaxPreps and their power rating would drop.
The rankings are for the games on 10-15-18. The 10-19-18 hasn't been updated yet.It appears the NCHSAA has hired Obama to construct an equitable playoff structure for high school football in NC built along the same format as Obamacare.
No one knows how it works but trust this is best for everyone.
Regardless, this adjusted version makes no sense at all. I am one that is never overly critical of the NCHSAA's workings but this model for ranking teams is pathetic.