After being ranked # 2
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I made no mention of Paterno in my comment.
Bryant was awarded 6 titles. Note that:
One is from ‘64, when Bama lost their bowl game after the final polls came out.
Another is from ‘73 when Bama lost to perfect record ND in their bowl, but the coaches poll was still awarded prior to the bowls. The AP proclaimed ND as MNC.
WELL,IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK AND WALKS LIKE A DUNK!! ......... WELL,YOU SHOULD KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY. P.S. WHERE IS THE PROOF FOR SANDUSKY?????
IMO one of Franklin's biggest flaws is he seems to care a lot about what others think.. from the beat reporters to national media to the fans. He went after the popular hires, the guys the media was talking about. Why would you hire a guy who needs 2-3 seasons to implement his system when you have a roster set up to win in year 1? This was a major mistake and sealed his fate.
Michigan is the only Big 10 team to beat them in the Shoe since 2015. OSU is on a historic run of success, people here that b!tch about not beating them more often really underestimate how good OSU has been in the last decade. OSU has had more talent that all but 2-3 teams in the country for a decade, they are winning these games because they have a better team. For some I guess it's a tough pill to swallow to say that OSU > PSU, but it's a fact.
Not arguing with that but the talent difference over the years is not like night and day. We've been close a few years and there is no effing way they should have won 9 in a row - just inexcusable.....not acceptable with any PSU fan I know
Good strategy. If you are going to be wrong, do so in your loudest voice.
It's pretty significant. This year PSU's blue chip ratio (percentage of 4 and 5 star players) is ~65%, our all time high. OSU's is ~90%. They have 4 and 5 star talent at just about every single position in their 2 deep. We do not. For example, Deluca probably wouldn't even make OSU's roster and at PSU he's on the field for 90% of the snaps in a game.
Bingo. People still don’t seem to get this. OSU is making a historic run. They get whatever recruits they want and they have solid coaching across the board.
I agree with you in general but in football the most talented teams don’t always win. There was enough talent in 3-4 of the years we lost where better on the field coaching gets you a win or two.
Of course the better team doesn't always win, but the bigger the gap the smaller the margin for error the underdog has. PSU teams consistently fail to capitalize on opportunities when presented with them. You aren't going to beat these top teams when you do that, unless those teams start making errors themselves or are unmotivated to play. But good coaching at OSU has made sure that's not an issue for them, they have both the talent and consistent execution that's needed to beat PSU. I know someone will chime in and talk about Michigan beating them recently but that's a whole different story, it's a massive rivalry game for both teams. We all know that in those sort of games things become less predictable. PSU has no such opponents.
What you're describing here is a head coach that doesn't really know football, which is a narrative has that become increasingly popular over the past few weeks with the phrase "more of a CEO" being tossed around a lot with regard to Franklin.
Indeed, it seems as though Franklin's approach to coaching football was not so much coaching, and more of like, "Is it possible to just buy your way to victory? You know... if you just buy coaches, and buy players... then you win, right?"
The problem -- as I said before -- is that when you don't know football, you don't know how to properly evaluate football talent. You don't for example, understand that the key to Kotelnicki's success is that he's running gimmick offensive schemes in a conference that notoriously does not play defense.
You don't understand that Jim Knowles is a rigid adherent to a particular defensive system that requires speed at the edges and LB, and that if you don't have that on your team, Knowles isn't the kind of guy that's going to figure out an alternate approach.
Franklin needs other people to do the heavy lifting for him, because he's not really coaching. He's just kind of a hiring manager who brings in people that he thinks are top performers... except he doesn't know how to properly evaluate their talents because, again, he doesn't really know the game of football. He's looking at it strictly as a business.
I never understood the phrase “was it talent or lack there of”. Like the prior had too much talent?
What happened to Bushwood? I was looking for recent posts that contained "shizhole" but it seems he kinda disappeared lately
Look in the Ohio St game thread (and every other one) and you’ll find his posts accusing the refs of corruption, missing 45 holding penalties, etc.
Forgot one thing and this stat truly amazes people in college football (not Joe fan who isn't in the cfb industry): He won 409 games and had more than 100 Academic All-Americans and a grad rate over 80 percent in an industry (yes D1 cfb is an industry) where the average grad rate is barely 50 percent and among top 25 schools of his time much lower.
Saban, pfft. Winning football games is easy. Try developing people and winning games. Different level.
Keep telling yourself that you will be happy with 3-9 being the standard as long as the team has good grades.
Better yet, you need to start a movement to abolish football at PS, quit wasting money on athletics.
OK, I found the new version of Bushwood. Not as acerbic and verbose as the former one but a lot of similarities
Things have changed dramatically in the pay for play era but that doesn't diminish what Paterno accomplished.
PSU's all time record vs Alabama is 5-10. That might not seem great but it's better than Franklin's 1-11 vs OSU.
Doesn't elevate him to the level of "greatest ever". Like I've said, he was a good coach that won a lot of games. Very weak when it comes to titles and should have retired (or been fired) 15 years earlier. Doesn't matter, he will forever be known for the scandal as his claim to fame.
and IIRC correctly 5 undefeated and untied teams. A couple of those could/should have won Nattys.
Who cares what you buy. You're entitled to your opinion and so are we. If someone thinks joe was a great coach, and in his prime he was considered perhaps the greatest and I know because I lived through it and I heard with my own ears what commentators were saying - that's great for them. If joe didn't kiss your *** enough while he was alive or you have some other reason to **** on him anytime anyone says he was a great coach - that's your problem.
The fact is joe built a cow college, nothing football program from irrelevancy to a national powerhouse. That's indisputable and anyone that pretends that didn't happen is a petty loser and a liar.
Kotelnicki and Knowles have one thing in common -- both use systems that work.
They will be around for a while.
He is not considered the greatest by any measurement but one - he won 409 games. Otherwise, the large majority of people view his reputation as one lower than whale feces.
And thanks to folk like you, he still has the program in a state of division that will stand in the way of success.
He went on for pages with me a few weeks ago claiming that the refs invented a penalty against us, calling Roughing the Passer for a high hit. He claimed that there is no such thing in college, and the only high hit on a QB would have to be called Targeting...and when I referred him to the actual rule, he started moving the goal posts, referring to the 2005 Michigan game, ridiculous name calling, and everything else that Bushwood does.
Calabrin nails it. A former college QB, who was successful as a head coach at 2 separate spots, and at the highest level of competition ... doesn't know football.
Can someone perform a wellness check on Calabrin? He likely has suffered acute brain trauma. Or is this written in code, and he's being held hostage and trying to convey that to us, somehow?