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<blockquote data-quote="Samuel S" data-source="post: 129418434" data-attributes="member: 1754664">&quot;Surely you don't actually believe that a coach with a winning record in probably the toughest conference top to bottom is in jeopardy of losing his job? &quot;4-52-75-4(2-4)13-20This is not a &quot;winning record.&quot; Even if we win out, the WP will improve only&nbsp; to .444. If we lose one of the last three, we will have endured losing records in 3 of our 4 years in the conference and have a WP of .416. In four years, we have never finished closer than 3 games to a tie for 1st, or higher than 5th.Excluding the BE year, which we keep getting told counts for nothing whatsoever, we are 23-24 under Holgorsen, also not a &quot;winning record.&quot;NOBODY who is not a homer believes the Big 12 is the toughest conference and even most Big 12 homers would not make such a claim.&nbsp; We are 1 loss from having the same record we had in 2012, which everyone agreed at the time was a major disappointment and excused by &quot;inexperience&quot; and &quot;transition.&quot;How long can one remain inexperienced? How long should a transition require? (I guess we can ignore the long since discarded boasts that Dana was ideal for the transition to the Big 12 due to his familiarity with it).&nbsp;&nbsp; Now the excuses are that we are such poor, disadvantaged, hopeless program that it is unrealistic to expect us to do better, so shut up and be happy because it is impossible to do better.&nbsp; Amazing what 4 years of struggling can do to cause a complete 180 in the &quot;thinking&quot; of some. Joining the Big 12 has gone from a golden opportunity and a potential springboard to ultimate success to an insurmountable burden to even being above average on a frequent basis.&nbsp;&nbsp; ALL&nbsp; of the Dana fanboys justify his lack of achievement by: (1) Denigrating everything we accomplished prior to him and attacking our prior coaches and teams as paper tigers; and (2) claiming that literally everything other than his coaching is the cause for the current struggles and that we just can't compete at a level above what we are seeing because it's just too darn hard now. That this mindset has infected even a small portion of our fanbase is quite sad.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Samuel S, post: 129418434, member: 1754664"] [B]"Surely you don't actually believe that a coach with a winning record in probably the toughest conference top to bottom is in jeopardy of losing his job? "[/B] 4-5 2-7 5-4 (2-4) 13-20 This is not a "winning record." Even if we win out, the WP will improve only to .444. If we lose one of the last three, we will have endured losing records in 3 of our 4 years in the conference and have a WP of .416. In four years, we have never finished closer than 3 games to a tie for 1st, or higher than 5th. Excluding the BE year, which we keep getting told counts for nothing whatsoever, we are 23-24 under Holgorsen, also not a "winning record." NOBODY who is not a homer believes the Big 12 is the toughest conference and even most Big 12 homers would not make such a claim. We are 1 loss from having the same record we had in 2012, which everyone agreed at the time was a major disappointment and excused by "inexperience" and "transition." How long can one remain inexperienced? How long should a transition require? (I guess we can ignore the long since discarded boasts that Dana was ideal for the transition to the Big 12 due to his familiarity with it). Now the excuses are that we are such poor, disadvantaged, hopeless program that it is unrealistic to expect us to do better, so shut up and be happy because it is impossible to do better. Amazing what 4 years of struggling can do to cause a complete 180 in the "thinking" of some. Joining the Big 12 has gone from a golden opportunity and a potential springboard to ultimate success to an insurmountable burden to even being above average on a frequent basis. [B][U]ALL[/U][/B] of the Dana fanboys justify his lack of achievement by: (1) Denigrating everything we accomplished prior to him and attacking our prior coaches and teams as paper tigers; and (2) claiming that literally everything other than his coaching is the cause for the current struggles and that we just can't compete at a level above what we are seeing because it's just too darn hard now. That this mindset has infected even a small portion of our fanbase is quite sad. [/QUOTE]

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