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susancoleman

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After our blowout loss to CC who is ranked 74 out of 79 teams in the 1a state division, there is a chance that AHS could be the lowest ranked football team in NC when the new rankings come out. I feel like I am in the twilight zone. We all knew we would be young, but I would never have imagined this could be the result. Everyone says that we are an 8th grade team, however we have zero 8th graders on the team. There are a lot of sophomores with some juniors and seniors who should make easy work of CC. I am sick of hearing how good our 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th grade teams are playing. There is no correlation to varsity success at that age group. The kids haven't even hit puberty for Christ sake. A win for us this week will be like winning a state championship and it is against SD with their only 14 players dressing out. I picked AHS to upset Tville in week one with no idea how bad the current staff could bring our program down. Hey coaching staff, try something else! What you are doing is not working! Or do us all a favor and play a JV schedule.
 

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After our blowout loss to CC who is ranked 74 out of 79 teams in the 1a state division, there is a chance that AHS could be the lowest ranked football team in NC when the new rankings come out. I feel like I am in the twilight zone. We all knew we would be young, but I would never have imagined this could be the result. Everyone says that we are an 8th grade team, however we have zero 8th graders on the team. There are a lot of sophomores with some juniors and seniors who should make easy work of CC. I am sick of hearing how good our 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th grade teams are playing. There is no correlation to varsity success at that age group. The kids haven't even hit puberty for Christ sake. A win for us this week will be like winning a state championship and it is against SD with their only 14 players dressing out. I picked AHS to upset Tville in week one with no idea how bad the current staff could bring our program down. Hey coaching staff, try something else! What you are doing is not working! Or do us all a favor and play a JV schedule.

Actually Susan anybody that knows sports and especially coached them would say yes there is a direct correlation of your youth programs to your varsity team. That's where it starts. Talk to anybody that was here during the state title runs and ask them what the youth programs were like. The fact is that where it starts and you build them through your program.

You were at the game Friday correct?
 

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Furthermore if your youth program was irrelevant then why would so many successful coaches put such an emphasis on getting involved in the youth and middle school sports? Before voicing your opinion I would simply ask some successful coaches about the importance of running a great youth and middle school program.
 

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After our blowout loss to CC who is ranked 74 out of 79 teams in the 1a state division, there is a chance that AHS could be the lowest ranked football team in NC when the new rankings come out. I feel like I am in the twilight zone. We all knew we would be young, but I would never have imagined this could be the result. Everyone says that we are an 8th grade team, however we have zero 8th graders on the team. There are a lot of sophomores with some juniors and seniors who should make easy work of CC. I am sick of hearing how good our 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th grade teams are playing. There is no correlation to varsity success at that age group. The kids haven't even hit puberty for Christ sake. A win for us this week will be like winning a state championship and it is against SD with their only 14 players dressing out. I picked AHS to upset Tville in week one with no idea how bad the current staff could bring our program down. Hey coaching staff, try something else! What you are doing is not working! Or do us all a favor and play a JV schedule.


Additionally the majority of this team are freshman and sophomores which account for about 90% of this roster I believe there are only 4 juniors and seniors total on this team.
 

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I understand your frustration Susan, but you have to understand these kids have never been in a weight room. Therefor we are getting pushed all over the field for lack of strength. Was told the kids didn't even know where to put their hands on the weights. I think the coaches are going a great job with what they have to work with. These kids have to believe in themselves and stay in that weight room year round. Strength doesn't come over night. We just all have to be patient.......
 

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I understand your frustration Susan, but you have to understand these kids have never been in a weight room. Therefor we are getting pushed all over the field for lack of strength. Was told the kids didn't even know where to put their hands on the weights. I think the coaches are going a great job with what they have to work with. These kids have to believe in themselves and stay in that weight room year round. Strength doesn't come over night. We just all have to be patient.......
I understand things haven't been done exactly right over the past 3-5 years but we are the worst in the state. We just lost 48-13 to CC. It's not like the weight room would make us win a game. We aren't even close to competing with a bottom 10 1a team in CC. I am just a frustrated Bulldog. This is rediculius.
 

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Just in case it helps you, the coaches checked into playing a jv schedule and would have cost us $5,000.00 a game.
 

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I strongly disagree with you about the weight room. Will the weight room help us this year.NO. But we have to get it started. Think we will see some results next year if the kids comit to it. It's all up to them....
 
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Sometimes you just have to accept that your team may not be successful. Whether it's talent or whatever, all teams go thru it unless your Richmond or A.L. Brown (I may be wrong but I think they have never had a losing season). The best thing fans can do is support this group of kids and the coaches there. They need someone that cares and I think the current coach is doing the best he can under the circumstances. They need someone that will stay there and help create another winning culture that Jack Gaster did. It doesn't help to come on here and bad mouth him and the kids.

Playing sports is not all about winning...it's growing up...learning responsibilty...building character....brotherhood/sisterhood...being a good teammate!! I've seen teams that never have a winning season...but they continue to work hard because they love the game.
 

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I strongly disagree with you about the weight room. Will the weight room help us this year.NO. But we have to get it started. Think we will see some results next year if the kids comit to it. It's all up to them....

Kids are in the weight room everyday working hard. They are all pretty much freshman and sophomores out there fighting everyday not looking for excuses but want to compete and bring back that pride to AHS what else do you want from them? It will take 1-2 yrs which is depending on how effective the coaches are at getting the other guys at AHS involved. The size is still there the strength and talent is, just not suited up. Maybe Susan has an answer to that as well? She is quick to blast this program maybe she has an idea on how to fix it or something else that could be done rather than getting out there and supporting these kids.

The work is being done and the want is there we just have to be patient and let them develop. It's no small task this season. It will take time but when it comes it's going to come with a flurry. These boys want it.
 
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Albemarle is not a New School so You shouldn't have only a Freshman Program. Are the Kids not happy at Albemarle ? I mean the Truth needs to be addressed. Would They all be happier at a nearby School ?
 
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I strongly disagree with you about the weight room. Will the weight room help us this year.NO. But we have to get it started. Think we will see some results next year if the kids comit to it. It's all up to them....
Albemarle is not a New School so You shouldn't have only a Freshman Program. Are the Kids not happy at Albemarle ? I mean the Truth needs to be addressed. Would They all be happier at a nearby School ?
I looked at our Jv roster from 2014 and we only have 4 players that are still playing. That team beat EM by 30 and tied WM. I remember seeing that play against WM and they looked really good. All of this madness doesn't make sense. How can we go from a good Jv team in 2014 to the worst team in the entire state of NC in 2016. I could handle if we were losing but to be the worst of all 79 teams in 1a? It's embarrassing.
 
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Albemarle is not a New School so You shouldn't have only a Freshman Program. Are the Kids not happy at Albemarle ? I mean the Truth needs to be addressed. Would They all be happier at a nearby School ?

over the past couple of years we have lost kids primarily when they did the week long open enrollment before we had a football coach basketball coach and AD in place. That was also during the time when we had a transition of administration. That added with all the drama of the plans that were being proposed and this is the result you get. Additionally the turnover we have had in the football program hasn't helped. Once that trust is built back up and you get consistency my opinion is that it will come back up. The kids are still there if they played this year we would compete well. That's why I say a year or two, those kids come out along with the strength of our freshman and sophomore classes you will see a drastic improvement.

This freshman class is fantastic. The numbers are really strong and they are talented. This is the first year since the plans have been removed and we have stability. Give us some time to bounce back but the pride is coming back with these kids. It's amazing the difference between last year and this year.
 

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over the past couple of years we have lost kids primarily when they did the week long open enrollment before we had a football coach basketball coach and AD in place. That was also during the time when we had a transition of administration. That added with all the drama of the plans that were being proposed and this is the result you get. Additionally the turnover we have had in the football program hasn't helped. Once that trust is built back up and you get consistency my opinion is that it will come back up. The kids are still there if they played this year we would compete well. That's why I say a year or two, those kids come out along with the strength of our freshman and sophomore classes you will see a drastic improvement.

This freshman class is fantastic. The numbers are really strong and they are talented. This is the first year since the plans have been removed and we have stability. Give us some time to bounce back but the pride is coming back with these kids. It's amazing the difference between last year and this year.
Nation, sometimes I am not sure if we are even watching or talking about the same team. The Jv team from 2014 would take this varsity to the woodshed. I saw us play twice and I have never seen anything like it. We are not even close. 23 is a good player and that is all I see. The kids don't play hard, they are scared to tackle, they don't know their assignments. Nothing positive right now.
 
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Nation, sometimes I am not sure if we are even watching or talking about the same team. The Jv team from 2014 would take this varsity to the woodshed. I saw us play twice and I have never seen anything like it. We are not even close. 23 is a good player and that is all I see. The kids don't play hard, they are scared to tackle, they don't know their assignments. Nothing positive right now.

#23 (freshman) is a really good player can play about any position, #10 (freshman I think) can sling the ball (I'm guessing you missed the long 30 yard pass and the TD pass that hit off of the tall receivers hands (I know his name but not his number) 28 and the other RB are really good hard running backs the other kid could be a good receiver #11. In all reality you could run a two receiver set 28 and the other back in the backfield and move 23 wherever you want whether in the backfield and sub for one of the backs Or in the slot. He is a true dynamic athlete that can do almost anything. We have to get better defensively but from what I seen that's a lot of strength difference as well. We have some boys who hit well but we need to get everyone else up as to par as well which as I have said before takes time.

If you work with #10 he can be a really good qb he just needs to learn the position at times our line held well and at times it didn't they need to continue to improve and get stronger. At the end of the day the more these kids learn and the stronger they get you will begin seeing a completely different team. Both of these items take time. I don't know if you have ever been through strength training or not but it takes a year in the weight room to notice a big difference. Considering these boys by majority are young their bodies are still maturing. A year can make a hell of a difference on a football field especially when the area you are struggling is strength.

So I'm not sure what team you are watching but if you can't pick up on that you just need to cheer and not try to analyze anything.

Additionally since coach Mason has these boys in the weight room everyday and working them hard in practice what else do you suggest he do? He can't just over night turn them into juniors and seniors. A quick question when these boys get to be juniors and seniors and they start dominating again will you apologize to them for some of your ridiculous post? You may not understand this but there is a huge difference between a 14-15 yr old and a 17-18 yr old from a physical stand point.
 

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In regards to your jv comment yes I know they were good. Are you aware that some of those kids are still in our school? Have I not stated that this will be a tough task for coach Mason being to get them back involved? I'm talking these are very good some are very big kids.
 

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Susan, I saw these rankings. I don't put a lot of stock in these computer ratings whether it's Maxpreps, simmonsratings.com or whomever. I bet Albemarle could run wild over a bunch of team east of I-95 like Mattamuskeet, Columbia, and Cape Hatteras.
 

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The AHS coaches should be commended for being out there. They are more like military drill instructors trying to teach new recruits the basics.
 
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I have a nephew which is a Senior and plays on this team. Although he is a senior this is only his 2nd year of organized ball. From what he is telling me I don't see the "commitment" from all those involved. He said that on some days there may be as few as (3) players in the weight room. Evidently not everyone is buying in......or they just don't care. Remember, this is from the mouth of a player, and not someone's opinion.
 

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I have to agree with @susancoleman on the weight lifting part. Yes weight lifting is important in football just as "Breathing air is important in living". The kids are not lifting weight therefore they are not fully commited. They are home playing "Call of Duty" or FaceBook'ing. But you can't blame the highschool coach for that! When I first started lifting weights I was a sophomore and could barley lift 70lbs bench press.... You have to look at the middle school...! Lifting weights isn't something that you fully commit to tomorrow. That is a long process, and if their peers where in the weight room like they should've been, then the sheep would follow! When I was a senior, Potts was my lifting partner back in 2002. He was a freshman and was maxing out higher than I was...as a freaking "Senior"(Even though I was strong as an ox at 125lbs...maxing 255lbs bench).

The reason why I bring up D1 and D2 is because the coaches at that level has installed "Work Ethic" in those kids...something that's been missing for about 5 years now!!!
 

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I have to agree with @susancoleman on the weight lifting part. Yes weight lifting is important in football just as "Breathing air is important in living". The kids are not lifting weight therefore they are not fully commited. They are home playing "Call of Duty" or FaceBook'ing. But you can't blame the highschool coach for that! When I first started lifting weights I was a sophomore and could barley lift 70lbs bench press.... You have to look at the middle school...! Lifting weights isn't something that you fully commit to tomorrow. That is a long process, and if their peers where in the weight room like they should've been, then the sheep would follow! When I was a senior, Potts was my lifting partner back in 2002. He was a freshman and was maxing out higher than I was...as a freaking "Senior"(Even though I was strong as an ox at 125lbs...maxing 255lbs bench).

The reason why I bring up D1 and D2 is because the coaches at that level has installed "Work Ethic" in those kids...something that's been missing for about 5 years now!!!


Sway, If you're talking about S. Potts then you may know my son.
 
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I have to agree with @susancoleman on the weight lifting part. Yes weight lifting is important in football just as "Breathing air is important in living". The kids are not lifting weight therefore they are not fully commited. They are home playing "Call of Duty" or FaceBook'ing. But you can't blame the highschool coach for that! When I first started lifting weights I was a sophomore and could barley lift 70lbs bench press.... You have to look at the middle school...! Lifting weights isn't something that you fully commit to tomorrow. That is a long process, and if their peers where in the weight room like they should've been, then the sheep would follow! When I was a senior, Potts was my lifting partner back in 2002. He was a freshman and was maxing out higher than I was...as a freaking "Senior"(Even though I was strong as an ox at 125lbs...maxing 255lbs bench).

The reason why I bring up D1 and D2 is because the coaches at that level has installed "Work Ethic" in those kids...something that's been missing for about 5 years now!!!


I love the youth coaches. Absolutely incredible with these kids and they are always reaching out to them. I actually think bringing up 1 or 2 of them at the high school level would be great.

One thing for sure that d2 team hits hard!!!! If you get a chance to go watch them play I would urge you to. They are fun to watch.
 
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I love the youth coaches. Absolutely incredible with these kids and they are always reaching out to them. I actually think bringing up 1 or 2 of them at the high school level would be great.

One thing for sure that d2 team hits hard!!!! If you get a chance to go watch them play I would urge you to. They are fun to watch.

They are taught "Right". That's ground Zero if @susancoleman is looking for it! It's obvious! How can a kid not know how to tackle...by the time they gets to high school, they should already be used to tackling and know the basics. Mason has to teach these guys the basic. But like @Abiggdogg11 said, the one's now aren't fully committed...that's another issue. I guess they want to look pretty in Royal Blue uniforms and be punching bags on Friday's!....

back in the day, I would have took all of their lunch money or had them buying me a whole pizza at lunch!

Weak!
 
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Sway, if you stole lunch money back in the day...keep it to yourself. You are not that old...and the statute of limitations has not expired. (I would add...at least these guys came out and have stuck with it. You can't build without someone being at the bottom or beginning layer.) Again...Albemarle will win THIS week.
 

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@Sleehrat84 you said that we would beat SD a couple weeks ago as well as this week. I hope you are right #1, #2 have you seen us play, #3 have you seen SD play, and #4 how in the world did you come up with this conclusion? I'm kind of excited about the possibility of beating SD, but I hate to get my hopes up. Please explain your logic.
 

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I saw SD play the second week. They have a good game plan in their double wing attack for them, but they only had one kid who looked like any "big play" threat. He broke a couple of 15 yard runs against North Stokes. SD dressed 14. I asked a parent if they had a jv team and "she" told me that I was watching them and most were being 8 quartered. I know the rule, but I didn't see the possibility that the 14 I saw could play two games ever in one week. Unless they let players join the team after school started, they simply don't have the numbers.

Their longest punt that I saw (in 3 quarters) was about 15 yards. Every snap was to 11 yards. You could block it, but even if you don't...field position is a given. Their team enthusiasm is a plus. They played hard...which reflects their head coach. Coach Tippett knows football, but there is the rub. He can see what would work, but most of the big play ideas can't be executed at a high percentage.

I have not seen Albemarle play, but I know they too will see this game as a winnable one. Tradition does matter. It is a HOME game. The fans need to act like it and get behind their boys.

IF Albemarle scores early, they will win by three touchdowns. IF they struggle and it is an even score after the first quarter, it will come down to whichever team doesn't implode. If I were betting right now, I would say AHS 32 SD 14. My opinions are just that...not intended to offend the good folks in Denton.
 
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I like what your saying @Sleehrat84, but I'd rather see the D2 team out there right now!! lmao, JK.

I am expecting Albemarle to lose this game tho....
 

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When I saw sd they must have gotten more players because there were 10-15 on the sideline. Having seen both teams, I think South wins. Albemarle has more speed, but most teams have more speed than SD. I like SD because they are more physical.
 
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Are you coming Sway? Friendly wager with all the NCC members... I'll pay for halftime concession hotdogs if the home team is behind at halftime. Any takers? (I'll take mine with mustard, chili, onions.)
 
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Just another fan...which game did you see them? Could it be the j.v. team dressed up because they didn't play that week? Just wondering....
 

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Are you coming Sway? Friendly wager with all the NCC members... I'll pay for halftime concession hotdogs if the home team is behind at halftime. Any takers? (I'll take mine with mustard, chili, onions.)

I'll try to make it. I'd like to take my son to a game...he's been nagging me to go to one, might as well try to take him to a "Winnable" game lol. But if my daughter has a volleyball game, I won't make it.
 
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