Aikman texted Dak

[anon1787432961]

It's not a good look for Aikman being critical of Dak. Same if Romo was in the booth. It comes across as petty despite any good intentions. He's in a no win situation. He can't be overly positive or critical of a Dallas QB. As a color analyst that's going to be difficult.

It's the same if Whitten was vocal about the Dallas TE.

It's like ok man, the glory days have come and gone Troy. Just be cool.

 

[bddawg]

That quote goes against the narrative pushed by many on this board that Troy is jealous and doesn’t like Dak.

A guy who is in the hall of game and won three titles himself is jealous of dak???? Wow......

 

[Go Budaw]

A perfect example is Eli Manning. He's not a top 20 QB today, but his stats are in line with his stats from early in his career when he was easily a top 10 QB.

That’s actually not a great example at all. If by “early in his career” you mean 2008-2010ish, yeah Eli’s stats are similar to then (his stats from 2004-2007 were horrible). 2008 (when he somehow made the Pro Bowl) Eli was 15th in passer rating, behind the likes of jabronis like Seneca Wallace and Matt Schaub. 2009 he was 11th. 2010 he was 17th. Simply put, Eli has NEVER been a top 10 QB. Not that your point about comparing eras isn’t relevant, but Eli has been extremely average his whole career.

 

[DirtyDog]

I’m not. I’m compared one thing to Dak. That’s it. I’m comparing him to other QBs in his era. The Dallas Cowboys were the best and most talented team in the NFL for most of the 90s. He threw for 20 TDS once in his career. He had 165 TDS to 141 Intercpetions with 9 rushing TDs and 58 fumbles. He had more turnovers than TDs in his career and he played for the best team in the NFL.

For comparison Steve Young lost 5-6 years of his career in Tampa and being behind Montana. He went on to throw for 20+ TDS 5 times in his career. Young also threw for 232 TDS and 107 interceptions. He also started 22 less games than Aikman.

I actually like Aikman a lot and think he's a good guy overall, but there is still something off in his commentary beyond unbiased analysis. I also just wanted to say that I have enjoyed this thread and the discussion using information to support assertions. Good job on both sides. Based upon the data alone, regardless of eras, I think Aikman was not nearly as gifted as he is given credit for. The statistics simply say he was an average to slightly above average quarterback in his era that was on a great team that won 3 Super Bowls. QBs don't win SBs alone, it is a team win. But to have sustained success in the playoffs means he had to be a decent leader of men and have the confidence of his teammates, which is hard to put a statistic to....similar to the intangibles that Dak brings to a team. The data regardless of eras shows that Dak has been better than Aikman for his first three years regardless of era. The turnovers that are mentioned above and comparison to Young prove that. Aikman did show up in the playoffs and that is to his credit and points to the intangible qualities that statistics have a hard time showing. I believe he is a HOF QB because of his leadership and intangibles vice statistics, and I hope Dak's intangibles and leadership translate into good team chemistry and playoff success as well.

 

[aTotal360]

Funny you say that. One of my friend's parents went to a charity golf tournament that Brett Favre hosted back in the day. Dan Marino and Troy Aikmen were there. They said Aikman was a total dickhead and Marino was nice. I figured it would have been the other way around.

 

[archdog]

Yes and no. Aikman goes way out of his way to criticize Dak throughout the entire game. Even the other night he wouldn't give Dak props when he personally fought through all the bull and won that game.

 

[operch]

I normally like Troy and Collinsworth, but I watch 90% of every televised game, if 2 overlap I'll watch the NFC normally. But those two and the rest absolutely nit pick everything about Dak's game when they in no way do such in the other QB's and when plays well they'd rather remain silent as heep 2 ounces of praise on him. Oh they'll say he's a great guy, a great teammate, hell even a great leader. But that's stuff they could say about 80% of sixpackers, what they say about the QB who leads the NFC in wins in his 3 seasons is condescending at best.

80 might be a little high on the six packers.*

 

[MSUDawgFan86]

Yeah, you are. Nick Foles had a great run and can be a very good QB, but he hasn't been the leader of the best team in football for a number of years like Aikman was in the mid 90's. I'll let others decide on Eli, he's a tough case. Aikman is not.

Haha Not sure how giving a player’s Career TDs, Interceptions, Completion percentage, Rating, Fumbles, and Rushing TDs is cherry picking. It’s the most important QB stats. You upset I left out passing yards? They are lower than his fellow QBs too. But you know cherry picking and ****.

 

[She Mate Me]

Haha Not sure how giving a player’s Career TDs, Interceptions, Completion percentage, Rating, Fumbles, and Rushing TDs is cherry picking. It’s the most important QB stats. You upset I left out passing yards? They are lower than his fellow QBs too. But you know cherry picking and ****.

You're right. I know cherry picking and bull shitting. You got'em both down.

 

[BiscuitEater]

i dont think jealousy has anything to do with it. people were critical because aikman, as an analyst, was holding dak to a standard he himself could not uphold.

Think that "holding Dak to a standard he himself could not uphold" is really close to being THE definition of 'Jealousy.' Dak doing stuff that Aikman didn't do.

 

[Shamoan]

jealousy: the state of feeling jealous
jealous: feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages.


aikman isnt being critical of dak doing things he cant do, he is being critical of dak for things he did not do.either way, jealous implies envy. i dont think think aikman is even slightly envious of dak, just being overly critical at times. I have said that some of that criticism is deserved, but aikman goes way overboard because his standard is unobtainable.