AJ Ferrari in trouble again...

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So let me see if I have the timeline right:

Attends 4 different high schools in 4 years - "Not AJ's fault. He just needs some guidance."

Gets in a car crash driving 100+ mph on the wrong side of the road - "Not AJ's fault. He just needs some guidance."

Commits a violent sexual assault - "Not AJ's fault. He just needs some guidance."

Gets thrown out of a high school tournament for going down onto the floor without a pass and refusing to leave - "Not AJ's fault. He just needs some guidance."

Hits a ref at the Soldier Salute, gets disqualified, then gives the crowd the finger - "Not AJ's fault. He just needs some guidance."

Transfers to his 5th college (OkSt, Iowa, CSB, UNC, Nebraska) - "Not AJ's fault. He just needs some guidance."

Gets caught again driving 100+ mph and with an active arrest warrant - "Not AJ's fault. He just needs some guidance."

Did I miss anything? The only thing I know for sure is none of this should be blamed on AJ. It's our fault, as a society, for not doing a proper job of raising and guiding him. Come on people, you need to do better.
Yes. He just needs some guidance. He needs guided right down the hallway of county prison to his cell.
 
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RockySmith

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Saw some posts on Facebook. Take it with a grain of salt but the word on the street is that Ferrari raced away from a police officer who tried to pull him over. In Texas, doing that can lead to a felony charge. If that’s what happened, the police officer must have gotten his license plate number and the DA is pressing charges. That’s why they are requesting that he be extradited.

I have a feeling this guy isn’t going to do anything to clean up his behavior until he finds himself facing very serious consequences for his actions. Maybe this episode will do it if the DA insists on jail time. Stay tuned.
I wonder if he sees the outside of a facility between now and trial or adjudication.

If the accused has to be extradited from another state, I could see how the judge might not want to let him out again. Don’t want to risk that he leaves the state again.

I‘m no lawyer but I know we have a few on this forum.

Edit: Perplexity says he has a strong chance of getting bail, which might be in the range of $10k.
 
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I wonder if he sees the outside of a facility between now and trial or adjudication.

If the accused has to be extradited from another state, I could see how the judge might not want to let him out again. Don’t want to risk that he leaves the state again.

I‘m no lawyer but I know we have a few on this forum.

Edit: Perplexity says he has a strong chance of getting bail, which might be in the range of $10k.
I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I’d love to see him wrestling with an ankle monitor.
 

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I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I’d love to see him wrestling with an ankle monitor.
A) that’s funny, right there. Lol.

B) I don’t want to ever see him wrestle again. Assaulted a young lady, nearly got people killed in the accident, doesn’t care for laws and safety of others. Petulant and boorish public behaviors. He has exhausted his privilege of wrestling (arguably before this). Done.
 

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A) that’s funny, right there. Lol.

B) I don’t want to ever see him wrestle again. Assaulted a young lady, nearly got people killed in the accident, doesn’t care for laws and safety of others. Petulant and boorish public behaviors. He has exhausted his privilege of wrestling (arguably before this). Done.
I, of course, actually agree with this. I was just being facetious.
 
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I thought about this, but he's a heavyweight now, so it really doesn't matter if the ankle monitor weighs anything or not. If he were still cutting to 197, that would actually be a problem.
He'd have a real problem if the police handcuffed him to a barbell.
 
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I thought about this, but he's a heavyweight now, so it really doesn't matter if the ankle monitor weighs anything or not. If he were still cutting to 197, that would actually be a problem.
I don't think it matters that he's wrestling 285.

If Google is to be trusted:

"NCAA heavyweight wrestlers cannot wear a belt during weigh-ins. All collegiate wrestlers must weigh in wearing a legal uniform, which is typically their competition singlet."

"Contestants are not allowed to weigh in wearing shoes or ear guards. A belt would also be considered extra clothing and is not permitted."

Ankle monitor is like a baby ankle belt.

So I think it's safe to say a 24/7 ankle monitor would end his season.
 
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Good thing Ferrari moved to HWT. It would have been tough making 197 wearing an ankle bracelet ...
 

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Saw some posts on Facebook. Take it with a grain of salt but the word on the street is that Ferrari raced away from a police officer who tried to pull him over. In Texas, doing that can lead to a felony charge. If that’s what happened, the police officer must have gotten his license plate number and the DA is pressing charges. That’s why they are requesting that he be extradited.

I have a feeling this guy isn’t going to do anything to clean up his behavior until he finds himself facing very serious consequences for his actions. Maybe this episode will do it if the DA insists on jail time. Stay tuned.
Also he might not get bail as a flight risk, considering he is charge with fleeing a traffic stop.
 
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It was a case of mistaken identity, it was his Uncle Carmine and the charge was something something concealed weapon.
It was actually AJ. Charges were dismissed because of insufficient evidence. Yeah.....another d!ck joke. Sue me :)
 
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Fleeing the seen is a felony, it would of been just a traffic violation if he didn't flee the seen.
If it's a hit and run, that'd be one thing. If he can argue he didn't see or hear the cop car due to excessively deep-tinted windows and a blaring sound system, that'd be another.
 

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How much is Manning regretting going away from his "homegrown" brag last year? And how quickly did he regret it? Was it only with this incident? Or was it sooner?
 

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If it's a hit and run, that'd be one thing. If he can argue he didn't see or hear the cop car due to excessively deep-tinted windows and a blaring sound system, that'd be another.
he'll have a lawyer negotiate a settlement ... pay the fine for speeding, felony dropped, and he won't even set foot in Texas
wtf is wrong with you guys ... jail time, no bail, ankle monitors lol
 

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he'll have a lawyer negotiate a settlement ... pay the fine for speeding, felony dropped, and he won't even set foot in Texas
wtf is wrong with you guys ... jail time, no bail, ankle monitors lol
We need the message board lawyers like tikk to chime in here, but I believe a lot of it depends on the local DA who filed the charge. If he learns anything about AJ's past history, he might decide he needs a good hard lesson and won't settle for an easy plea bargain. I know what I would do if I was the one calling the shots.
 

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Making nat'l news ...


From The Athletic today:

“After reviewing the Mishawaka Police Department’s investigation into this incident, the Prosecutor’s Office has determined that no criminal battery occurred,” the prosecutor’s office said in a statement. “As such, no criminal charges will be filed against Mr. Freeman.”

During its investigation, which included viewing video surveillance of the wrestling meets, prosecutors determined there was physical contact between Freeman and Fleeger but did not deem it to be intentional, nor did it match Fleeger’s accounting of the incident.

Fleeger told officers that Freeman gave him a “two-handed push” without motivation and did not know the identity of Notre Dame’s head coach at the time of the incident. But in follow-up interviews, Fleeger said he did recognize Freeman, noting that the Notre Dame head coach was “rich” and that Fleeger planned to hire an attorney.

The Mishawaka police interviewed two acquaintances of Fleeger, and each described the incident with Freeman differently. One said Freeman struck Fleeger with an open hand. Another said Freeman struck Fleeger with enough force to send Fleeger backwards. The prosecutor’s office said video of the incident did not support either claim.

Investigators also interviewed Freeman, who acknowledged knowing Fleeger. Freeman said he told Fleeger to stop talking to his son and other wrestlers and that he did not remember making any physical contact.

“Based on a review of all of the evidence, the State would not be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime occurred,” the prosecutor’s office said. “While the evidence suggests that a touching may have occurred, an inadvertent touching is not sufficient. The State is therefore declining to file any criminal charges.”

Sounds like Fleeger was just trying to cash in. Pretty petty stuff. Gives wrestling a bad name.
 

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So too will AJs indescretions get dealt with pretty painlessly.

There are a lot of serious criminals running around it there with many serious felonies who don't go to prison. AJ will pay some fines, plea down an offense, or othereise have these traffic infractions dissapeared.

On the good side, from a pure voyieristic entertainment point of view, his next bad decision is just a microphone or a few days/weeks/months away. Let's just hope he doesn't wrap his car around a pedestrian in doing so.
 
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From The Athletic today:

“After reviewing the Mishawaka Police Department’s investigation into this incident, the Prosecutor’s Office has determined that no criminal battery occurred,” the prosecutor’s office said in a statement. “As such, no criminal charges will be filed against Mr. Freeman.”

During its investigation, which included viewing video surveillance of the wrestling meets, prosecutors determined there was physical contact between Freeman and Fleeger but did not deem it to be intentional, nor did it match Fleeger’s accounting of the incident.

Fleeger told officers that Freeman gave him a “two-handed push” without motivation and did not know the identity of Notre Dame’s head coach at the time of the incident. But in follow-up interviews, Fleeger said he did recognize Freeman, noting that the Notre Dame head coach was “rich” and that Fleeger planned to hire an attorney.

The Mishawaka police interviewed two acquaintances of Fleeger, and each described the incident with Freeman differently. One said Freeman struck Fleeger with an open hand. Another said Freeman struck Fleeger with enough force to send Fleeger backwards. The prosecutor’s office said video of the incident did not support either claim.

Investigators also interviewed Freeman, who acknowledged knowing Fleeger. Freeman said he told Fleeger to stop talking to his son and other wrestlers and that he did not remember making any physical contact.

“Based on a review of all of the evidence, the State would not be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime occurred,” the prosecutor’s office said. “While the evidence suggests that a touching may have occurred, an inadvertent touching is not sufficient. The State is therefore declining to file any criminal charges.”

Sounds like Fleeger was just trying to cash in. Pretty petty stuff. Gives wrestling a bad name.
Why was Fleeger running his mouth at a kid anyway.
 

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From The Athletic today:

“After reviewing the Mishawaka Police Department’s investigation into this incident, the Prosecutor’s Office has determined that no criminal battery occurred,” the prosecutor’s office said in a statement. “As such, no criminal charges will be filed against Mr. Freeman.”

During its investigation, which included viewing video surveillance of the wrestling meets, prosecutors determined there was physical contact between Freeman and Fleeger but did not deem it to be intentional, nor did it match Fleeger’s accounting of the incident.

Fleeger told officers that Freeman gave him a “two-handed push” without motivation and did not know the identity of Notre Dame’s head coach at the time of the incident. But in follow-up interviews, Fleeger said he did recognize Freeman, noting that the Notre Dame head coach was “rich” and that Fleeger planned to hire an attorney.

The Mishawaka police interviewed two acquaintances of Fleeger, and each described the incident with Freeman differently. One said Freeman struck Fleeger with an open hand. Another said Freeman struck Fleeger with enough force to send Fleeger backwards. The prosecutor’s office said video of the incident did not support either claim.

Investigators also interviewed Freeman, who acknowledged knowing Fleeger. Freeman said he told Fleeger to stop talking to his son and other wrestlers and that he did not remember making any physical contact.

“Based on a review of all of the evidence, the State would not be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime occurred,” the prosecutor’s office said. “While the evidence suggests that a touching may have occurred, an inadvertent touching is not sufficient. The State is therefore declining to file any criminal charges.”

Sounds like Fleeger was just trying to cash in. Pretty petty stuff. Gives wrestling a bad name.
"Sounds like Fleeger was just trying to cash in. Pretty petty stuff. Gives wrestling a bad name."

As a retired LEO it was always irritating to have to take a crime report in cases like this because the "victim" insisted on it when you knew it was a waste of everyone's time. The only time we were allowed, per policy, to refuse to take a report was when the allegation, by definition, was not a crime. If the reporting party claimed to be a victim of a criminal act then we were obligated to take a crime report, no matter how ridiculous the allegations. Often times, instead of arguing with the person about taking a report, (and potentially getting a complaint for refusing to take a report per policy) I would just give them their precious "case number" and write the most-basic of reports, letting my narrative spell out that the case wasn't worth anyone's time.

An old salty officer I once knew told my rookie officer self that "there is no report you can't "K" with a pen." A "K" was a call disposition that no report was required. His point was that if someone demanded a report then the easiest thing to do to avoid a complaint or argument was to put something down officially on paper. By writing a bare bones report you avoided an argument and/or complaint and you met your obligations per policy.

Sorry for the detoured response, but sometimes the old police memories come creeping back in : ). Even after almost six years of retirement I still find myself having police dreams, and they are never dreams that you wake up from thinking, "I sure miss my patrol days!"
 

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"Sounds like Fleeger was just trying to cash in. Pretty petty stuff. Gives wrestling a bad name."

As a retired LEO it was always irritating to have to take a crime report in cases like this because the "victim" insisted on it when you knew it was a waste of everyone's time. The only time we were allowed, per policy, to refuse to take a report was when the allegation, by definition, was not a crime. If the reporting party claimed to be a victim of a criminal act then we were obligated to take a crime report, no matter how ridiculous the allegations. Often times, instead of arguing with the person about taking a report, (and potentially getting a complaint for refusing to take a report per policy) I would just give them their precious "case number" and write the most-basic of reports, letting my narrative spell out that the case wasn't worth anyone's time.

An old salty officer I once knew told my rookie officer self that "there is no report you can't "K" with a pen." A "K" was a call disposition that no report was required. His point was that if someone demanded a report then the easiest thing to do to avoid a complaint or argument was to put something down officially on paper. By writing a bare bones report you avoided an argument and/or complaint and you met your obligations per policy.

Sorry for the detoured response, but sometimes the old police memories come creeping back in : ). Even after almost six years of retirement I still find myself having police dreams, and they are never dreams that you wake up from thinking, "I sure miss my patrol days!"
It certainly seemed like this was one of those given the speed it was dealt with. And details like the "witnesses" who were friends, gave conflicting accounts. Or Fleeger both claiming not to know who Freeman was and to know he was rich. I could feel the police rolling their eyes as they wrote it.
 
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"Sounds like Fleeger was just trying to cash in. Pretty petty stuff. Gives wrestling a bad name."

As a retired LEO it was always irritating to have to take a crime report in cases like this because the "victim" insisted on it when you knew it was a waste of everyone's time. The only time we were allowed, per policy, to refuse to take a report was when the allegation, by definition, was not a crime. If the reporting party claimed to be a victim of a criminal act then we were obligated to take a crime report, no matter how ridiculous the allegations. Often times, instead of arguing with the person about taking a report, (and potentially getting a complaint for refusing to take a report per policy) I would just give them their precious "case number" and write the most-basic of reports, letting my narrative spell out that the case wasn't worth anyone's time.

An old salty officer I once knew told my rookie officer self that "there is no report you can't "K" with a pen." A "K" was a call disposition that no report was required. His point was that if someone demanded a report then the easiest thing to do to avoid a complaint or argument was to put something down officially on paper. By writing a bare bones report you avoided an argument and/or complaint and you met your obligations per policy.

Sorry for the detoured response, but sometimes the old police memories come creeping back in : ). Even after almost six years of retirement I still find myself having police dreams, and they are never dreams that you wake up from thinking, "I sure miss my patrol days!"
You need to watch Facebook reels, tons of traffic cop content. It’s addictive.
 

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"Sounds like Fleeger was just trying to cash in. Pretty petty stuff. Gives wrestling a bad name."

As a retired LEO it was always irritating to have to take a crime report in cases like this because the "victim" insisted on it when you knew it was a waste of everyone's time. The only time we were allowed, per policy, to refuse to take a report was when the allegation, by definition, was not a crime. If the reporting party claimed to be a victim of a criminal act then we were obligated to take a crime report, no matter how ridiculous the allegations. Often times, instead of arguing with the person about taking a report, (and potentially getting a complaint for refusing to take a report per policy) I would just give them their precious "case number" and write the most-basic of reports, letting my narrative spell out that the case wasn't worth anyone's time.

An old salty officer I once knew told my rookie officer self that "there is no report you can't "K" with a pen." A "K" was a call disposition that no report was required. His point was that if someone demanded a report then the easiest thing to do to avoid a complaint or argument was to put something down officially on paper. By writing a bare bones report you avoided an argument and/or complaint and you met your obligations per policy.

Sorry for the detoured response, but sometimes the old police memories come creeping back in : ). Even after almost six years of retirement I still find myself having police dreams, and they are never dreams that you wake up from thinking, "I sure miss my patrol days!"
"precious case number" - LOL