AJ Harris kicked off the team

[Marshall2323]

Weird how so many coaches are making around $10 million a year for a position that is not much of a difference maker. All they do is recruit, hire staff, budget NIL, be a prominent public face of their university, provide general strategic guidance to their coordinators, make key decisions on 4th down go for it/punt/attempt the field goal, provide major input on scheduling and the overall allocation of resources, and decide who starts or sits. You are correct, they are a highly overrated aspect of a football program.

Virtually all who reach the level of P4 are extremely accomplished. After all, there are only about 65 of those jobs in the world. I believe the difference between how fans define "success" has more to do with on the field talent than anything else that might separate them. I maintain that game day decisions are vastly over rated. Many if not most of the decisions that are criticized by fans are failures do to lack of execution rather than anything else.
Ryan Day's success has more to do with on the field talent than his coaching genius. Although there is no way to prove my assertion, I believe that a coach like Jeff Brohm would enjoy similar results given the advantages OSU provides its HFC.

 

[Bison13]

It's as overrated as arm strength in a qb. I have not seen a pro or college coach yet who hasn't made some questionable decisions (almost always in hindsight) during the game.

I’ll disagree with you there. It’s way less important at that level, but it definitely does make a difference when you can save possessions or create extra possessions by time management.

 

[PSUHarry]

He’s announced for the portal. Kids who do that don’t travel with the team.

 

[PSUHarry]

Landon Tengwall was basically implying he got kicked off the team on X. Looks like he deleted the tweet now.

Tengwall is clickbait.

 

[PSUHarry]

I'm not the only one beating on BGJ. There are thousands on that whip including big donors.

Name a big donor.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Name a big donor.

The sponsors, Pegula but not you or anyone related to you.

 

[PSUHarry]

The sponsors, Pegula but not you or anyone related to you.

You know Pegula personally to know this?

 

[BobPSU92]

Alice Cooper said that when he and his friends sit around and tell stories, about 3/4 of them are true. When Keith Moon sits in, they are all true and they can only tell half of them.

 

[BobPSU92]

Is there any reliable source saying he was "kicked off the team"?

It was posted here. Our word is our bond.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

You know Pegula personally to know this?

Do you?

 

[Bvillebaron]

Triggered.

Do you perform your searches for "Franklin" every 10 minutes or every 5? You seem to have a voracious appetite for dead horse meat. Just can't bring yourself to give him up, can

It's always on the players. Never the coaches...interesting

Not for many on this board. For them it’s always on the coaches in general and Franklin in particular but never the players.

 

[PSUHarry]

Do you?

I didn’t make the statement so I don’t have to.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

I didn’t make the statement so I don’t have to.

Go to Reddit or Facebook. He's been hammered.

 

[KingLando]

Not for many on this board. For them it’s always on the coaches in general and Franklin in particular but never the players.

There's always shared blame but ultimately the coaches are responsible for who they play, ensuring they're in a position to succeed and the results. Players making bad decisions or mistakes is inevitable but when you put players in a position to fail (as Franklin did with our offense under AK) they're going to fail

 

[bbrown]

There's always shared blame but ultimately the coaches are responsible for who they play, ensuring they're in a position to succeed and the results. Players making bad decisions or mistakes is inevitable but when you put players in a position to fail (as Franklin did with our offense under AK) they're going to fail

+1. Thats how I feel about Dom. He takes a beating on here but he was never supposed to be a starting LB'r in the B1G and the DC did not do him any favors. But then Allen didn't do much for Koby King either.

 

[ChandlerPearce58]

back in the day (late 80's) at my fraternity a bunch of us would wear depends and sit in the TV room for 12+ hours drinking beer and watching NCAA tourney basketball and never leave the couch... good times

Way to much information.

 

[KingLando]

+1. Thats how I feel about Dom. He takes a beating on here but he was never supposed to be a starting LB'r in the B1G and the DC did not do him any favors. But then Allen didn't do much for Koby King either.

Agreed--Dom was set up to fail--he did his best

 

[PSUHarry]

Go to Reddit or Facebook. He's been hammered.

Great sources.

 

[Moogy]

Tengwall is clickbait.

He started out OK, but now he's just a gossip queen. I guess he didn't have enough material just sticking to the basics of breaking down football.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Great sources.

Get over yourself. Thousands were sick of the self centered greed and obvious incompetence.

 

[Moogy]

Get over yourself. Thousands were sick of the self centered greed and obvious incompetence.

Agreed. He self-centered greeded and obviously incompetenced us all the way to 3 consecutive 10-win regular seasons, which included a semi-final appearance, before this flubbed season. We deserve better, and he was just holding us back, since we were a dream destination for coaches and players alike. Which is why we embarrassingly and publicly couldn't find a coach that wanted to be here and we lost all our recruits.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Agreed. He self-centered greeded and obviously incompetenced us all the way to 3 consecutive 10-win regular seasons, which included a semi-final appearance, before this flubbed season. We deserve better, and he was just holding us back, since we were a dream destination for coaches and players alike. Which is why we embarrassingly and publicly couldn't find a coach that wanted to be here and we lost all our recruits.

The flash in the pan against teams he was expected to defeat didn't equate to success against better teams. Franklin was a flop.Franklin was the BoT attempt to rewrite history at Penn State. It was a miserable failure.

 

[Moogy]

The flash in the pan against teams he was expected to defeat didn't equate to success against better teams. Franklin was a flop.

No doubt. Rebuilding the program to where we’re expected to beat 10+ teams every regular season … and did for 3 straight years, with great recruits rolling in … total floppage. It was so floppagey, that we had a line of coaches past State College limits waiting to take over so they could collect a huge paycheck and show everyone how easy it is not to flop here … and the recruits? Relieved they’d be able to succeed here, finally, now that Mr. Floppy was gone.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

No doubt. Rebuilding the program to where we’re expected to beat 10+ teams every regular season … and did for 3 straight years, with great recruits rolling in … total floppage. It was so floppagey, that we had a line of coaches past State College limits waiting to take over so they could collect a huge paycheck and show everyone how easy it is not to flop here … and the recruits? Relieved they’d be able to succeed here, finally, now that Mr. Floppy was gone.

We beat top 10 teams for 3 seasons?

Who?

 

[PSUHarry]

Get over yourself. Thousands were sick of the self centered greed and obvious incompetence.

Merry Christmas bitter man.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Merry Christmas bitter man.

Ditto.

 

[OhioLion]

Well, here we are with another thread hijacked by the can’t-get-past-James Franklin crowd.

 

[LionJim]

Well, here we are with another thread hijacked by the can’t-get-past-James Franklin crowd.

Aftershocks follow earthquakes. It’ll fade away.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Well, here we are with another thread hijacked by the can’t-get-past-James Franklin crowd.

The odor lingers long after the explosion.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

1228&69, how is it elsewhere? Not too good for trailer park references and cursing.

 

[Blair10]

Virtually all who reach the level of P4 are extremely accomplished. After all, there are only about 65 of those jobs in the world. I believe the difference between how fans define "success" has more to do with on the field talent than anything else that might separate them. I maintain that game day decisions are vastly over rated. Many if not most of the decisions that are criticized by fans are failures do to lack of execution rather than anything else.
Ryan Day's success has more to do with on the field talent than his coaching genius. Although there is no way to prove my assertion, I believe that a coach like Jeff Brohm would enjoy similar results given the advantages OSU provides its HFC.

I disagree with your statement saying most of the bad decisions criticized by fans are failures due to lack of player execution.

Coaches can and do make many bonehead decisions that cost their team the game.

Do you remember the disastrous 4th and 5 call late in the 4th quarter against Ohio State in the 27-26 loss in 2018? Penn State‘s coaches ran the ball directly at the guy (Chase Young) who had tossed the Penn State OT around like a rag doll the entire game.

Do you remember the 4 consecutive failed runs up the middle (while completely ignoring Tyler Warren your best player) into the strength of the Ohio State defense in 2024?

There are numerous other failures that were coaching blunders which put the team in bad situations.

Botton line, on the field coaching is huge in determining the outcome of a game.

 

[Marshall2323]

I disagree with your statement saying most of the bad decisions criticized by fans are failures due to lack of player execution.

Coaches can and do make many bonehead decisions that cost their team the game.

Do you remember the disastrous 4th and 5 call late in the 4th quarter against Ohio State in the 27-26 loss in 2018? Penn State‘s coaches ran the ball directly at the guy (Chase Young) who had tossed the Penn State OT around like a rag doll the entire game.

Do you remember the 4 consecutive failed runs up the middle (while completely ignoring Tyler Warren your best player) into the strength of the Ohio State defense in 2024?

There are numerous other failures that were coaching blunders which put the team in bad situations.

Botton line, on the field coaching is huge in determining the outcome of a game.

I also recall the same play vs. Ohio State busting for a TD by Purdue to defeat OSU the same year.
Bottom line, game day coaching is not nearly as important as recruiting and year long training and skill development. Plus a successful week of game prep. By the way, running right at a quick and aggressive defender is a coaching fundamental as old as the game itself.

 

[Anon225117]

I also recall the same play vs. Ohio State busting for a TD by Purdue to defeat OSU the same year.
Bottom line, game day coaching is not nearly as important as recruiting and year long training and skill development. Plus a successful week of game prep. By the way, running right at a quick and aggressive defender is a coaching fundamental as old as the game itself.

The 4th and 5 playcall for a handoff to Miles Sanders seemed odd to me at the time. Five yards was longer than I would expect a run call. Further, McSorley was having a career day, so some sort of rpo was logical. Did Franklin just hope to surprise OSU by calling an unexpected run?

Much later I heard an OSU player state that it was weird because they called a run blitz on that side of the line which smothered the play.

Both teams called illogical plays with OSU getting the win. Call me a little paranoid, but after the Michigan sign stealing anything is possible. OR Franklin is just too predictable in critical situations. Dunno.

 

[Moogy]

We beat top 10 teams for 3 seasons?

Who?

This is why you only made it to community college. I didn't reference "Top 10 teams" ... I referenced 10+ teams ... so, you know ... counting ... 1,2,3,4,5 ... you still with me? We'll take a break so you can catch up ... OK, got it? 6,7,8,9 ... now, just wait ... we're about to hit double digits. "Double" means "two." You ready? 10. That's how many teams we beat in each of those regular seasons. Minimum.

Got it now? Or are you too busy marching around, as if you're in a parade, while wearing your ripped, faded and stained 1986 Natty champions sweatshirt, adult diaper and viking helmet shouting "we deserve better!," to process this?

 

[Paws057]

back in the day (late 80's) at my fraternity a bunch of us would wear depends and sit in the TV room for 12+ hours drinking beer and watching NCAA tourney basketball and never leave the couch... good times

That was way to much information!

 

[Marshall2323]

The 4th and 5 playcall for a handoff to Miles Sanders seemed odd to me at the time. Five yards was longer than I would expect a run call. Further, McSorley was having a career day, so some sort of rpo was logical. Did Franklin just hope to surprise OSU by calling an unexpected run?

Much later I heard an OSU player state that it was weird because they called a run blitz on that side of the line which smothered the play.

Both teams called illogical plays with OSU getting the win. Call me a little paranoid, but after the Michigan sign stealing anything is possible. OR Franklin is just too predictable in critical situations. Dunno.

Calls on both sides of the ball are primarily based on established trends. But there's an old saying in coaching circles....depends on who has the chalk last...meaning there is a D to counter every playcall and vice versa.

 

[SkiSkiSki]

No doubt. Rebuilding the program to where we’re expected to beat 10+ teams every regular season … and did for 3 straight years, with great recruits rolling in … total floppage. It was so floppagey, that we had a line of coaches past State College limits waiting to take over so they could collect a huge paycheck and show everyone how easy it is not to flop here … and the recruits? Relieved they’d be able to succeed here, finally, now that Mr. Floppy was gone.

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[Efejle]

The 4th and 5 playcall for a handoff to Miles Sanders seemed odd to me at the time. Five yards was longer than I would expect a run call. Further, McSorley was having a career day, so some sort of rpo was logical. Did Franklin just hope to surprise OSU by calling an unexpected run?

Much later I heard an OSU player state that it was weird because they called a run blitz on that side of the line which smothered the play.

Both teams called illogical plays with OSU getting the win. Call me a little paranoid, but after the Michigan sign stealing anything is possible. OR Franklin is just too predictable in critical situations. Dunno.

Franklin is the second worst coach in the history of college football against top 10 teams. That's not an accident.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

This is why you only made it to community college. I didn't reference "Top 10 teams" ... I referenced 10+ teams ... so, you know ... counting ... 1,2,3,4,5 ... you still with me? We'll take a break so you can catch up ... OK, got it? 6,7,8,9 ... now, just wait ... we're about to hit double digits. "Double" means "two." You ready? 10. That's how many teams we beat in each of those regular seasons. Minimum.

Got it now? Or are you too busy marching around, as if you're in a parade, while wearing your ripped, faded and stained 1986 Natty champions sweatshirt, adult diaper and viking helmet shouting "we deserve better!," to process this?

Idiot.

 

[rigi19040]

Franklin is the second worst coach in the history of college football against top 10 teams. That's not an accident.

False.


How do you rank coaches with zero top 10 wins ahead of Franklin?

Matt Rhule, Obrien, Golden and Locksley have have 0 wins vs the top 10 for their careers. Is that better or worse?

Most coaches have 0 wins vs the top 10. Top 10 go about 110-10 during the regular season and you somehow think everyone has a good record vs the top 10.



How about listing the bottom 10 and we will compare.