Alabama's Profit and Loss by Sport
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Does that include TV money? If so, you can see how rev share is going to eat into any type of campus operational expense.
Rev share was the absolute dumbest thing these nimrods have ever come up with.
Rev share was the absolute dumbest thing these nimrods have ever come up with.
I saw the $3+ MILLION deficit in women's rowing and thought 'how the hell do you even spend $1 MILLION on rowing much less lose $3 MILLION? Well, I found out that there are 72 (YES 72 women) on the rowing team! How the 17 do you justify that?
You've gotta wonder why they even have anything other than football and men's basketball. Should any school support a sport that loses money?
Just as the Quran said there will be.*
On the one hand, these numbers are patently absurd.
On the other, what were the revenue numbers for the Mathematics Department? How about the Physical Plant? Universities aren't businesses that need to show a healthy P&L statement.
On the other, what were the revenue numbers for the Mathematics Department? How about the Physical Plant? Universities aren't businesses that need to show a healthy P&L statement.
That is no surprise. Football and men's basketball are about the only sports that have even a chance to make money at any school. Some don't make anything even in THOSE two.
It absolutely includes the TV money.
That’s what is so insane about all of this. The league distributed $64,375,000 to each school in the 2024-2025 fiscal year from the TV deal. Alabama’s profit from football? $64,834,938.
Without the TV revenue, Alabama football barely 17ing broke even. They essentially netted $459,938 from ticket sales and their licensing agreements. I’m going to repeat that….ALABAMA FOOTBALL….probably the biggest and most tradition rich institution in all of college athletics, made less than $500k in profit without it’s TV handout. That’s pathetic.
Another key point - this was the last fiscal period before the revenue share period began. So, subtract $20 million more out from that bottom line moving forward. If this was 2025-2026 data, Alabama’s total profit for football would have dropped to about $50 million, and it would have turned that $459,938 profit into a nearly $15 million LOSS for what the school itself is actually doing to internally generate revenue.
It is, quite literally, ALL about the TV money.
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Universities primary purpose isn't to sponsor amateur sports teams.
yeah I mean I think that's an interested point that currently seems up in the air - are Athletic Departments in fact under the control of the University, or are they in their own silo outside of that broad University umbrella?
I generally agree but if we're going to insist each granular section of a University "turns a profit", that's going to run antithetical to what most understand a University does.
If you said "universities purpose isn't to host professional sports" - I'd agree wholeheartedly with that.
Except for men’s basketball is actually far more fiscally sound than football. $9 million profit for MBB is a healthy figure, because men’s basketball contributes jack shít to what comes in from TV revenue. Those TV deals are all about football.
There seems to be a hell of a lot of softball on TV . Is anybody making money off the networks on that ?
That's actually about what you'd expect. Hell, it's actually probably better than you'd expect. NCAA football basically operates under "contest theory" dynamics as far as economics go. Everybody is spending more and more money chasing a relatively fixed prize. Overall, the aggregate spending exceeds the available prize (which is what you see; most programs lose money and I bet but don't know lose more than the aggregate profits). Alabama has been a big winner over the past two decades from this dynamic, so everybody looks at that and says "I'm going to spend some more to chase that prize". It's going to be way worse now that you don't have an artificial cap on player compensation.
universities weren’t designed to be athletic training facilities.
The expenses for a math department and the expenses for entertaining (sports) shouldn’t be viewed the same, in my opinion. But I also think a university’s Primary function should be educating students. I don’t think that’s the goal anymore.
Are you saying that Football at SEC schools is not responsible for the television revenue?
I seriously doubt that the NBA, MLB, or NFL could break even without television money?
I'm thinking it might not include the TV money. $147.7MM divided by 6 home games and 100,000 seats is only $246/ticket. That doesn't include PSL's, concessions, merchandise, etc.
And Bama spent like $40 Mil on a golf facility for a sport that loses about $1.3 Mil for each Men and Women.
Part of it is having content for SEC network. Have to fill those time slots.
Part of it is having content for SEC network. Have to fill those time slots.
Also &83MM of non program specific revenue. That sounds a lot like tv money.
I found this for Mississippi State - not broken down by sport though
knightnewhousedata.org
Mississippi State University | College Athletics Database
Nah. Sounds like donations. There were $87 million in expenses on that same line item. Those are spent donations.
I’m not following. That’d be $246 per ticket per game. That’s an asinine cost….as an average. May be market value for club level or skybox. But it’s way, way more than what the average should be.
At least around me, that is a way to get compliance between Men's and Women's sports.
For years, rowing was a fantastic way for talented strong athletic girls to get some $ for college even if it wasnt in the sport they excelled in.
Soccer, softball, volleyball, wrestling- I know a bunch of girls since about 2010 who were fantastic in these HS sports and went to row at D1 universities despite never having rowed anything beyond a canoe on a pond.
Yes. I think we're generally in agreement here, that those departments don't "keep it in the black" nor are they designed to do that. I'm fine with a University having a rowing team/club that doesn't turn a profit (with the obvious addition that having 72 members on the rowing team is bananas)
It's hilarious to me that the crowd who fought so hard to PaY mUh PlAyErS are the ones who will be complaining when sports, mainly women's sports, end up getting cut due to finances.
Me personally, I'd rather keep the athletic department and school together, because I see sports as investments. I don't even mind Title 9 that much, if it means we stay more amateur and less employee. Of course now with this rev share shlt there will be some pressure created to decouple the two. Maybe not, hopefully not.
Somebody explain to me how Women's golf, Men's golf and Gymnastic generate more revenue than Women's basketball which in my mind should be the #4 revenue generating sport b/c while it's not generating crazy attendance, I would think it would more than those sports by a good bit.
Unless there are a few big donors that give to those sports.
Unless there are a few big donors that give to those sports.
nice to see the above the line numbers, I wonder if got a federal subpeona to the bank, how far in the red would they allegedly be?
you can trust above the line numbers with college sports about as much as you can trust the town drunk
poor little bama, would SHUT DOWN without the ESPN distribution, so sad *****************************
I assume gymnastics at Alabama is a big draw. I think they had some major donors for their golf program.
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