The comparison that I never made or even implied that you made up in your head? I don’t even know or give a **** about the Baldwin situation. I’ve never been posted a single time in this thread other than this. I’ll be happy to never give a **** about Alec Baldwin for the rest of my life actually
Alec Baldwin kills someone on movie set
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The comparison that I never made or even implied that you made up in your head? I don’t even know or give a **** about the Baldwin situation. I’ve never been posted a single time in this thread other than this. I’ll be happy to never give a **** about Alec Baldwin for the rest of my life actually
I wasted a few minutes reading what I missed over the last few days, and this thread is a perfect example of why an intelligent, calm conversation can't be had about anything now. This thread began with nails immediately bringing politics into it and calling for Baldwin's head and the same obsessed people who ***** about right and left have continued that throughout.
It's a tragedy that never should've happened. Maybe production cut corners. That happens on small productions with tight budgets from time to time. Baldwin is a producer, so he's not out of the woods per say, however, this ultimately falls on the prop/gun guy(s) that are on set. I don't care what actors say online, most of them aren't gun experts and aren't hired to check weapons before a scene. They are given the "ok" to use the weapon by the supposed expert on set and the scene occurs. Literally no one has ever blamed Michael Massee for killing Brandon Lee. He's an actor and was handed a gun for a scene. A tragic accident then happened. In fact, the only ones who seem to want Baldwin in prison are posting here and probably on reddit. Again, it shouldn't have happened and an investigation is ongoing, but when nails and others immediately bring up Trump for whatever reason and Gassy is posting tired Hillary jokes on repeat, it's pretty clear most of you don't care about the woman who was killed or the injured director. You hate Baldwin for other reasons and are using this tragedy to do a bizarre Lock Him Up circle jerk.
It's a tragedy that never should've happened. Maybe production cut corners. That happens on small productions with tight budgets from time to time. Baldwin is a producer, so he's not out of the woods per say, however, this ultimately falls on the prop/gun guy(s) that are on set. I don't care what actors say online, most of them aren't gun experts and aren't hired to check weapons before a scene. They are given the "ok" to use the weapon by the supposed expert on set and the scene occurs. Literally no one has ever blamed Michael Massee for killing Brandon Lee. He's an actor and was handed a gun for a scene. A tragic accident then happened. In fact, the only ones who seem to want Baldwin in prison are posting here and probably on reddit. Again, it shouldn't have happened and an investigation is ongoing, but when nails and others immediately bring up Trump for whatever reason and Gassy is posting tired Hillary jokes on repeat, it's pretty clear most of you don't care about the woman who was killed or the injured director. You hate Baldwin for other reasons and are using this tragedy to do a bizarre Lock Him Up circle jerk.
You said and I quote
"Are you implying that you check the engine and all the airplane parts and gears before flight, and since you’re the one flying the plane that if there is a crash you should be held responsible? I personally think you should really be in charge of the flying mainly."
What were you implying? That some movie set union worker be held to the same standards as a pilot under the regulations of the FAA?
Long response for a few minutes wasted. Hmmm.
Not only I am glad you wasted your time reading this thread, but even more happier of you typing up a 10000 word opinion on this. Haha
But hey I need my gun taken away.
Maybe he can make a PSA talking about why the average American needs guns taken away.
It seems you're either a really bad reader or a liar.
All good my man. I enjoy giving my thoughts from time to time. It's pretty clear you're using this thread to joke and troll. Go for it. I'm sure you're working on a conspiracy theory for when Baldwin isn't charged for first degree murder and sentenced to life.
So, just so we're clear, what John Wilkes Booth did was okay according to those defending Baldwin? That's how I read it.
So instead of me just just asking the guy out of curiosity (which is actually what you quoted) I was implying that a union set worker should be held to the standards of a pilot? What? How did you even get to that conclusion? Tomorrow morning when my daughter asks me for waffles for breakfast I’m going to laugh at her for implying that Biden raising capital gains tax is just for the top 1%
And also, since I’m now stuck in this stupid thread, did Baldwin shoot a guy with an actual bullet or did his gun have some sort of malfunction? If the gun had a malfunction was it something he could clearly see by inspecting it for 30 seconds? I mean wouldn’t that be the whole crux of this issue?
not going to read 11 pages? why did they even have an actual real loaded gun on set anyway? If one was required, and I don't know why one would, shouldn't it have been in a locked safe where safety protocols would have to have been followed to just to check out the live weapon for use? I mean?
Yes, it's literally the same thing. Have a good night and enjoy the paddock Lock Him Up thread rally.
Why didn't you answer the previous post? It clearly indicates that you've been deceptive.
Third post of the thread, me randomly saying "Ok". That was in response to you ranting at me about Trump for some reason. Your post was deleted by I assume a mod because what happened has nothing to do with him or politics. Now, have a good night.
The second post in this tread was you ranting that I had already made it political. The third post is irrelevant.
I don't know, Ron. Lol but the tone of your post seemed to imply that a pilot has the same safety standards as the the green haired female in charge of Alec Baldwin's gun. You used the word implying, so I was just trying to understand what you were implying
Great questions though. It appears the only real answer is that Alec Baldwin is a cold blooded murderer
In my head my tone was “why TF would a pilot be responsible for checking the landing gear”, but whatever. Either way this thread has me wanting to watch beetlejuice. Solid flick.
I was going to take up for Kermit and your throwing him in with Baldwin, but then realized you’re right. The Frog got sideways. He deserves the company.
You guys use too many words. Baldwin was holding the gun that killed someone. He’s responsible for that. Others contributed to the horrific outcome, but he’s the one who pulled the trigger. Hollywood is full of hypocrisy
At least no one here is as deranged as Alec Baldwin who shot and murdered a woman
My boss is a pilot now. They are responsible for everything regardless of mechanical failure or not. Plane goes down because a bolt broke then the pilot failed to control the plane. It doesn't mean if they were to survive they're charged with crashing a faulty plane but that is the level of responsibility given to them.
Not sure the comparison fits here other than if Baldwin is a producer then he's at the top and responsible for all those working under him.
My question is what percentage of stewardesses are actually pieces of *** nowadays? Ever bang a stewardess?
Whenever I fly I seem to get grandma type flight attendants.
This reminds me
(1) Alec is a Words With Friends *** on planes, and
(2) He does not bang your grandma. He bangs younger women with fake accents.
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Amazing. So the guy who pointed the gun at someone and pulled the trigger is not responsible for it. Good to know.
He has no responsibility to verify it's not loaded?
Has no responsibility to those around him to not fire a gun without making 100% sure? Personal accountability doesn't exist? Quite the take.
I have seen several actors on this say they alwayse verify the gun they are handed. One even said they point the gun to the ground and pull the trigger to be sure.
Not sure how you think Baldwin is completely absolved of any responsibility?
Ask Air Force pilots if they do checks themselves even though their crew chief does them and fills out a checklist as he does them? This is after his crew checks them.
Im so glad this has turned into an 11 page political argument. Well done, fellas.
Seems more a personal responsibility argument to me. Am I responsible for my actions or is someone else?
The important thing is you're happy and feel superior. Gyero ---->
Last I checked they were talking about kangaroo balls. Better get back in there ASAP.
I'm not interested in arguing Cawood. I have my opinion and you have yours. I've read enough about the case from an unbiased perspective to share my opinion.
From everything that is being said via BBC, AP and other outlets the Director said the AD handed Baldwin the gun and yelled "cold gun". Baldwin was then showing the Director and deceased how he would complete the scene and gestured towards a camera as the scene called for. The gun discharged.
Folks are acting like he knew he had a loaded weapon and aimed it straight at this woman and shot her.
Perhaps he should have checked the gun. My only point was that this is not the industry standard. I've read multiple stories as mentioned and heard a guy in the armor business talk about this on a conservative view radio station. The industry standard is the prop team, armor and asst director manage this piece of the business.
This was an unfortunate incident...truly sad.
Anyhow, have a good day man.
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Yeah...he (Baldwin) definitely should have.
I can't stand Baldwin as a person, but I do like several things he did in the 90s. I guess I was younger and he wasn't as outspoken a liberal dbag.
That being said, this was obviously a terrible terrible accident. I don't know what laws apply here. Obviously he needs to face some sort of punishment. I suppose involuntary manslaughter is the most appropriate.
I really don't know. I just try to think of both sides on something like this.
That being said, this was obviously a terrible terrible accident. I don't know what laws apply here. Obviously he needs to face some sort of punishment. I suppose involuntary manslaughter is the most appropriate.
I really don't know. I just try to think of both sides on something like this.
New Mexico law:
Involuntary manslaughter is the unintentional killing of a person while committing a misdemeanor criminal offense. Involuntary manslaughter can also occur if a person is engaging in a lawful act but unintentionally kills someone by being negligent or not exercising due care. Involuntary manslaughter is classified as a fourth-degree felony with sentencing up to 18 months in prison and probation.