Alec Baldwin kills someone on movie set

bigsmoothie

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You always show such great empathy. I'm very proud of the fact that I don't show empathy to Alec Baldwin who is one of the worst human beings that's ever walked the planet.
I knew Obama broke you all. I know Biden is currently breaking you. Who knew a freakin Baldwin would finish you off.
 

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Anyone with a modicum of common sense understands the basic premise that it’s wrong to point any weapon at a person, much less pull the trigger, even if it’s unloaded. However, if they were in fact shooting or rehearsing a scene which called for such an action, that’s a different story. If they were just discussing the scene, I do think there is a big difference in those scenarios.

Certainly a tragedy regardless, and one that could have been avoided had there not been what appears to be multiple breakdowns in protocol and common sense.
 

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If I’m Baldwin’s lawyer I’m looking into the “emotional juvenile” defense. Baldwin can enter into evidence his abusive calls to his daughter, his mistreatment and physical abuse of women and his long, established track record of bullying and inability to control his anger.

The defense would be that no one should have trusted him with a firearm because he was known to have the emotional and psychological maturity of an eight-year old.

Tell the jury that the responsible person is whoever trusted a person with a firearm who threatened his 11-year old daughter and called her a “pig.”
 
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Anyone with a modicum of common sense understands the basic premise that it’s wrong to point any weapon at a person, much less pull the trigger, even if it’s unloaded. However, if they were in fact shooting or rehearsing a scene which called for such an action, that’s a different story. If they were just discussing the scene, I do think there is a big difference in those scenarios.

Certainly a tragedy regardless, and one that could have been avoided had there not been what appears to be multiple breakdowns in protocol and common sense.
The outrage is solely because it was Baldwin. Period. They don’t even care a woman is dead.
 

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If I’m Baldwin’s lawyer I’m looking into the “emotional juvenile” defense. Baldwin can enter into evidence his abusive calls to his daughter, his mistreatment of women and his long, established track record of bullying and inability to control in anger.

The defense would be that no one should have trusted him with a firearm because he was known to have the emotional and psychological maturity of an eight-year old.

Tell the jury that the responsible person is whoever trusted a person with a firearm who threatened his 11-year old daughter and called her a “pig.”
If that were a real defense trump would have already used it
 
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For those defending Baldwin, you should read this, particularly #2 and #4. Treat all firearms as if loaded and deadly and the property manager should train you in all firearms you use.
8 is kind of a biggie.

  • Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot by aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point and shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property master or armorer for the prescribed safety procedures.
 

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If I’m Baldwin’s lawyer I’m looking into the “emotional juvenile” defense. Baldwin can enter into evidence his abusive calls to his daughter, his mistreatment of women and his long, established track record of bullying and inability to control in anger.

The defense would be that no one should have trusted him with a firearm because he was known to have the emotional and psychological maturity of an eight-year old.

Tell the jury that the responsible person is whoever trusted a person with a firearm who threatened his 11-year old daughter and called her a “pig.”

Yep, if Alec Baldwin can verbally abuse a female, and physically beat a female, then he is also very capable of killing a woman with a gun.
 

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For those defending Baldwin, you should read this, particularly #2 and #4. Treat all firearms as if loaded and deadly and the property manager should train you in all firearms you use.

I agree with this and I guess my main point is how did this happen? Were they rehearsing or shooting a live scene? Or was this just a discussion where they were playing around?

The difference between those scenarios will be for me how blame is placed. If any actor is shooting or rehearsing a scene and Is handed a gun which is announced to be cold, I have a hard time placing blame on them for acting out the scripted scene.

If, however, an actor is handed a gun that is announced to be cold where a scene is not being rehearsed or shot and they proceed to point and fire the weapon at anyone is a totally different thing IMO. For me, the crux is exactly what was happening when this shooting occurred. I don’t totally absolve Baldwin for the former, and he is clearly at fault for the latter.

And just to be clear, I think he’s one of the most despicable people in Hollywood—which says a lot. I can’t stand the guy personally.
 
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I agree with this and I guess my main point is how did this happen? Were they rehearsing or shooting a live scene? Or was this just a discussion where they were playing around?

The difference between those scenarios will be for me how blame is placed. If any actor is shooting or rehearsing a scene and Is handed a gun which is announced to be cold, I have a hard time placing blame on them for acting out the scripted scene.

If, however, an actor is handed a gun that is announced to be cold where a scene is not being rehearsed or shot and they proceed to point and fire the weapon at anyone is a totally different thing IMO. For me, the crux is exactly what was happening when this shooting occurred. I don’t totally absolve Baldwin for the former, and he is clearly at fault for the latter.

And just to be clear, I think he’s one of the most despicable people in Hollywood—which says a lot. I can’t stand the guy personally.
I would say there's probably more than one person who screwed up, but even if all rules were broken, had Baldwin obeyed #2, she would not be dead. He has primary responsibility.
 

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Only a psycho points at someone and pulls a trigger of a gun that is holding blanks.

Maybe these ultra libs who tell the rest of the country now they should handle their guns should take a gun basics course before using one on set. you know, to learn the stuff that our fathers and grandfathers taught us when we were 7
 

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Guys it is pointless to try and argue with an idiot. Little ed I am about to take a play out of your left loving playbook and threaten to end my 16 plus year subscription on here if you don't get banned.
Anyone ever show you the ignore feature?
 

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You always show such great empathy. I'm very proud of the fact that I don't show empathy to Alec Baldwin who is one of the worst human beings that's ever walked the planet.
Is he like Pol Pot bad or just ****** neighbor bad? Not sure what “one of the worst human beings to walk the planet” entails exactly.
 

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I knew Obama broke you all. I know Biden is currently breaking you. Who knew a freakin Baldwin would finish you off.
Ed, this was a tragedy, yet all you can think about is politics? How can you be a moralist when all you seem to care about is politics?
 

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Ed, this was a tragedy, yet all you can think about is politics? How can you be a moralist when all you seem to care about is politics?
Don't you understand Ed's logic? Because I dislike Obama and Biden, Alec Baldwin is innocent. It's the kind of ranting that a madman would come up with. By the way, The woman he shot was married to a Clinton lawyer.
 
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Is he like Pol Pot bad or just ****** neighbor bad?
He’s physically abusive to women, threatened and humiliated his daughter, constantly behaved like an arrogant, entitled bully, and killed a woman through reckless behavior bad.

Is that not enough to merit your disdain? Do you reserve your distaste only for the genocidal?
 

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Don't you understand Ed's logic? Because I dislike Obama and Biden, Alec Baldwin is innocent. It's the kind of ranting that a madman would come up with. By the way, The woman he shot was married to a Clinton lawyer.

Nail I believe little Eddie is overcomed with anguish from the woman Baldwin killed as he has stated numerous times and that the rest of us are missing the true facts.
I don’t recall such deep feelings of remorse when police officers were being murdered across the country with antifa ties, people losing their livelihood because antifa and BLM decided it was a great idea to burn the businesses and inventory and attack federal buildings and local governments in the name of “equality”
Little Eddie, are you going to start a go fund me for the woman that Baldwin killed ? And here’s a beer for you 🍺