Alright, Champdawg.. after two trips to Blowout City..

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What PrimeDog said. Jans is a joke along with every assistant coach we have. We have no talent on the floor except for Hub. I want to know who is in charge of blowing thru $13M in NIL money with this team we have. Remember Bama’s best player didn’t even play tonight. They have two freshmen studs. Gonna be a long year.
 
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I've always been a Jans fan, even before he got to Hail State. I sat in seats of the Jackson coliseum on a December afternoon and watched his NMSU team just manhandle all of Howland's legacy 4 and 5 star players. But the wheels have come off. Don't know what it is, but the quality of athletes he and his staff have brought in from the portal have just been awful overall. Below is a list of portal gets for his 4 years (might have missed a couple). But really nothing to move the needle. I don't know if its an evaluation problem or a coaching problem or a combination of both, but this current staff is not going to get it done at Mississippi State. No quality player is gonna want to play in his stale offense. If I'm not mistaken, Jans is making north of 4 mill and if so, the product on the floor doesn't warrant anywhere near that. They look totally uncoached. Hubbard will probably save him one more year, unless he plays his final year elsewhere. I don't know what the future holds or what the answers are, but I can say that I'm thoroughly sick of watching the crap the staff is running out onto the floor.

2022-2023

Tyler Stevensen (bust)
Eric Reed (bust)
William McNair (serviceable backup)
Kimani Hamilton (bust)
Jamel Horton (bust)
Deshawn Davis (turned out to probably be this staff's best get)

2023-2024

Jimmy Bell (serviceable backup)
Trey Fort (bust except for 1 game)
Andrew Taylor (bust)
Jaquan Scott (bust)

2024-2025

Riley Kugel (bust except for a couple of games)
Claudell Harris (nothing more than a role player)
RJ Melendez (nothing more than a role player)
Kanye Clary (bust)
Jeremy Foumena (bust)
Michael Nwoko (decent pickup)

2025-2026

Sergej Macura (TBD, but probably won't thrive under Jans)
Achor Achor (weak and not physical enough for SEC ball)
Quincy Ballard (soft)
Amier Ali (bust)
Brandon Walker (bust)
Jayden Epps (decent pickup but inconsistent)
 
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patdog

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What PrimeDog said. Jans is a joke along with every assistant coach we have. We have no talent on the floor except for Hub. I want to know who is in charge of blowing thru $13M in NIL money with this team we have. Remember Bama’s best player didn’t even play tonight. They have two freshmen studs. Gonna be a long year.
Man if we had not had Hubbard the last 3 years, I hate to think how bad it would be.
 
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golferdog

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There is nothing else to say other than this is a very average/bad basketball team. Too many portal busts.
 

onewoof

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Lo, the season ended before it began.

The swan sang it's song before the first full moon
 

Funk6652

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I was there. Pretty pathetic the way it played out. Just a note; they(AD) need to do something, anything, about the DJ*, the music, the acoustics, etc. the announcers, everything. Everything audio related.

carry on.
 
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PrimeDog

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The way Jans yells at the players isn't working. They get worse when he does that. Whatever method he is using, they are worse because of it.
I agree. Somebody said on here we need to “keep the core” and build around them. Who is the core? Virtually everybody is a senior except Hub, Euro and Davis-Fleming.

Euro and Epps have become the designated yellees so I wouldn’t blame Euro if he bolts. Hubbard may just want a change at this point and to get to the Dance as a complimentary player on a better team. Young guards are always iffy so who knows if Grace or the redshirts stick it out.

I just don’t know that Janstastic has the personality to build a team of 11 new guys each year. But, with his personality that may be the route he needs to go since players can only put up with his BS for so long
 

thekimmer

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Aug 30, 2012
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This team will not play post season outside of the conference tourney. Jans has done enough not to be on the hot seat at this time but I am concerned about our trajectory right now. This season was a HUGE miss at a time in his tenure when he should be taking a big step forward. Essentially wasting a season for a generational player in his prime.
 
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I was there. Pretty pathetic the way it played out. Just a note; they(AD) need to do something, anything, about the DJ*, the music, the acoustics, etc. the announcers, everything. Everything audio related.

carry on.
Holy crap. The church league has better audio at their games. It's like we don't literally have students majoring in AV and production. Oh wait....we do. The entire problem seems to be the mix/EQ. A half assed sound engineer could dial in the mix and clear up all the audio in a half hour. Start with live mics. Then do video. Then do DJ. Then do the live music (played during breaks or for the cheerleaders/dance team). Lock in the settings for each and it should never need anything more than minor adjustments. The music was insanely loud with a shrill of high end in the mix that was just painful, and I routinely play in front of 2 cranked guitar amps, and last night was way worse. With the right EQ, you make anything damn near as loud as you want without it being unpleasant, as long as you dial out the frequencies that are unpleasant to the human ear. No one can understand a single word of audio. That is not an equipment issue.

Don't get me started at how ridiculous it looks that they took away more than half of the student seating behind the goal. When they did the reading the newspaper bit, it looked ridiculous because it showed the line of demarcation behind the goal of the students engaged in the bit, and the "others" just sitting there looking bored - as they did the whole game. And most of the seats are the band. The band was great BTW. So now we have basically no presence behind the goal to distract opponents, etc.
 

Funk6652

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Holy crap. The church league has better audio at their games. It's like we don't literally have students majoring in AV and production. Oh wait....we do. The entire problem seems to be the mix/EQ. A half assed sound engineer could dial in the mix and clear up all the audio in a half hour. Start with live mics. Then do video. Then do DJ. Then do the live music (played during breaks or for the cheerleaders/dance team). Lock in the settings for each and it should never need anything more than minor adjustments. The music was insanely loud with a shrill of high end in the mix that was just painful, and I routinely play in front of 2 cranked guitar amps, and last night was way worse. With the right EQ, you make anything damn near as loud as you want without it being unpleasant, as long as you dial out the frequencies that are unpleasant to the human ear. No one can understand a single word of audio. That is not an equipment issue.

Don't get me started at how ridiculous it looks that they took away more than half of the student seating behind the goal. When they did the reading the newspaper bit, it looked ridiculous because it showed the line of demarcation behind the goal of the students engaged in the bit, and the "others" just sitting there looking bored - as they did the whole game. And most of the seats are the band. The band was great BTW. So now we have basically no presence behind the goal to distract opponents, etc.
So much distortion.
 

MSUDOG24

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Holy crap. The church league has better audio at their games. It's like we don't literally have students majoring in AV and production. Oh wait....we do. The entire problem seems to be the mix/EQ. A half assed sound engineer could dial in the mix and clear up all the audio in a half hour. Start with live mics. Then do video. Then do DJ. Then do the live music (played during breaks or for the cheerleaders/dance team). Lock in the settings for each and it should never need anything more than minor adjustments. The music was insanely loud with a shrill of high end in the mix that was just painful, and I routinely play in front of 2 cranked guitar amps, and last night was way worse. With the right EQ, you make anything damn near as loud as you want without it being unpleasant, as long as you dial out the frequencies that are unpleasant to the human ear. No one can understand a single word of audio. That is not an equipment issue.

Don't get me started at how ridiculous it looks that they took away more than half of the student seating behind the goal. When they did the reading the newspaper bit, it looked ridiculous because it showed the line of demarcation behind the goal of the students engaged in the bit, and the "others" just sitting there looking bored - as they did the whole game. And most of the seats are the band. The band was great BTW. So now we have basically no presence behind the goal to distract opponents, etc.
Thought it was just the old man coming out in me but agree, the music is ear splitting. I like to crank it up as much as the next guy but GD, dial it back a smidge and and take the top off. DNF isn't much better.
 

PhredPhantom

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I wear either earplugs or sound dampening (over-the-ear) muffs at every game.
Shouldn’t have to.
More painfully loud does not equate to better.
 
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What PrimeDog said. Jans is a joke along with every assistant coach we have. We have no talent on the floor except for Hub. I want to know who is in charge of blowing thru $13M in NIL money with this team we have. Remember Bama’s best player didn’t even play tonight. They have two freshmen studs. Gonna be a long year.
Amazing, another staff on this campus that can’t evaluate talent for sh*t,
Just plugging holes & hoping for the best
 
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M R DAWGS

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They need to pass out novocane at the Hump so fans can endure Jans basketball.

Should have let him walk and snagged Will Wade when we had the chance. Now Jans is getting embarrassed regularly by real coaches in the SEC.

Nitrous masks that drop from the rafters
 

leeinator

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The way Jans yells at the players isn't working. They get worse when he does that. Whatever method he is using, they are worse because of it.
Yeah, I noticed he can get pretty rough at times on the players. Maybe they need it, but I would rather see him do the rough stuff in practice. Try to encourage them more during gametime. We still don't have the outside shooting needed to win in modern day college basketball. BAMA has all 5 players shooting the 3 no matter how tall or short they are. A 2 pt shot for them is an afterthought or a putback after an offensive rebound.
 

Seinfeld

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I've always been a Jans fan, even before he got to Hail State. I sat in seats of the Jackson coliseum on a December afternoon and watched his NMSU team just manhandle all of Howland's legacy 4 and 5 star players. But the wheels have come off. Don't know what it is, but the quality of athletes he and his staff have brought in from the portal have just been awful overall. Below is a list of portal gets for his 4 years (might have missed a couple). But really nothing to move the needle. I don't know if its an evaluation problem or a coaching problem or a combination of both, but this current staff is not going to get it done at Mississippi State. No quality player is gonna want to play in his stale offense. If I'm not mistaken, Jans is making north of 4 mill and if so, the product on the floor doesn't warrant anywhere near that. They look totally uncoached. Hubbard will probably save him one more year, unless he plays his final year elsewhere. I don't know what the future holds or what the answers are, but I can say that I'm thoroughly sick of watching the crap the staff is running out onto the floor.

2022-2023

Tyler Stevensen (bust)
Eric Reed (bust)
William McNair (serviceable backup)
Kimani Hamilton (bust)
Jamel Horton (bust)
Deshawn Davis (turned out to probably be this staff's best get)

2023-2024

Jimmy Bell (serviceable backup)
Trey Fort (bust except for 1 game)
Andrew Taylor (bust)
Jaquan Scott (bust)

2024-2025

Riley Kugel (bust except for a couple of games)
Claudell Harris (nothing more than a role player)
RJ Melendez (nothing more than a role player)
Kanye Clary (bust)
Jeremy Foumena (bust)
Michael Nwoko (decent pickup)

2025-2026

Sergej Macura (TBD, but probably won't thrive under Jans)
Achor Achor (weak and not physical enough for SEC ball)
Quincy Ballard (soft)
Amier Ali (bust)
Brandon Walker (bust)
Jayden Epps (decent pickup but inconsistent)
I knew it was bad, but I don’t think I even realized that it’s been that bad. Even the guys that weren’t complete busts basically came and went after a season.

Good lord, Jans has been awful in the portal
 
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