Amazing insight into the thinking of a liberal

[WVPATX]

A lib congresswoman wants to treat heirs to an estate the same as welfare recipients (eg, drug testing before they can inherit their families assets). After all, everyone's estate should be owned by the government with the government getting to decide what's best. After all, the family didn't build that estate, the government did. Amazing.

Sanchez

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

I agree, that's dumb.

Do I lose my liberal label now? I hope not.

 

[WVPATX]

You're showing some signs of hope.

 

[Keyser76]

Keep votin against your own economic interests.

And running dudes who were born on third base thinking they hit a triple. Why ain't the GOP voting on their budget today? lol. If you can't run a party how you ever gonna run a country?

 

[Keyser76]

Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.


But then that is why there is no right wing daily show!

 

[WhiteTailEER]

That's not what she said at all

Originally posted by WVPATX:
A lib congresswoman wants to treat heirs to an estate the same as welfare recipients (eg, drug testing before they can inherit their families assets). After all, everyone's estate should be owned by the government with the government getting to decide what's best. After all, the family didn't build that estate, the government did. Amazing.

She used a poor analogy in trying to defend the "death tax" (which I don't agree with becuase all of that income was taxed as it was being acquired, to tax it again passing it on would be taxing it again).

She didn't say that heirs should be drug tested, only that they should pay the tax.

 

[bamaEER]

Sure there is....

 

[bamaEER]

Wow....these guys froth over the dumbest bogus internet claims....

on a daily basis.

Hey, does Obama have a US birth certificate?

 

[WVPATX]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

She called Heirs "lucky." Tell that to West Texas farmers' kids that sweat and toil on the farm. Tell that to the children of small business owners that work to make the business a success. That's not luck. The government has no legitimate right to tax assets that have already been taxed simply because someone dies. This tax destroys many small businesses simply because the owner dies.

She compares welfare recipients that do nothing to earn their welfare to heirs of estates. Truly stupid. He receives the public's money and the other receives private assets.

This post was edited on 3/19 1:55 PM by WVPATX

 

[WVPATX]

Re: Keep votin against your own economic interests.

My own economic interests are in a free market, capitalistic economy. Yours is apparently in one controlled by the central government, either socialist or European style. Neither are successful. Government is inordinately less efficient than the private sector.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

Originally posted by WVPATX:
She called Heirs "lucky." Tell that to West Texas farmers' kids that sweat and toil on the farm. Tell that to the children of small business owners that work to make the business a success. That's not luck. The government has no legitimate right to tax assets that have already been taxed simply because someone dies. This tax destroys many small businesses simply because the owner dies. She compares welfare recipients that do nothing to earn their welfare to heirs of estates. Truly stupid. He receives the public's money and the other receives private assets.

This post was edited on 3/19 1:55 PM by WVPATX

That's all an entirely different argument. Your original "point" was that she said heirs should be drug tested. Something she never said, but since the headline said she said that, you just ran with it.

If you have a point that's so fundamentally sound, you shouldn't have to use lies and fabrications to try and justify it.

 

[moe]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

But that would take all of the fun out of being a troll.

 

[WVPATX]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

You are the one missing the point. She rationalized that welfare recipients have to do something to get the money. Therefore, heirs to an estate must do something to get the money. The welfare recipient receives money from the US taxpayers. The heirs receive no money from US taxpayers. But this is how liberals think. It is all just the governments money. She postulated a ridiculous argument and you are defending that. As Margaret Thatcher once observed, socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money.

 

[moe]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

But this is how liberals think. So by your reasoning, if a conservative politician says something, then all conservatives think that way. If I get bored enough, I'm sure I can find a few examples to tell us how all conservatives think.

 

[WVPATX]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

So you are not in favor of big government? And you are not in favor of the estate tax?

 

[moe]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

I don't know what "big government" is but it sounds like another term that you like to use to simplify the world and to label people or groups. I think that the government should provide taxpayers with useful services for taxes paid. The estate tax only applies to people with estates > $5 million and only applies to < 3% of Americans so it doesn't apply to me. The estate tax has been around for many years and the tax rate has been lower and higher than it is now.
This post was edited on 3/19 3:00 PM by moe

 

[WhiteTailEER]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

Originally posted by WVPATX:
You are the one missing the point. She rationalized that welfare recipients have to do something to get the money. Therefore, heirs to an estate must do something to get the money. The welfare recipient receives money from the US taxpayers. The heirs receive no money from US taxpayers. But this is how liberals think. It is all just the governments money. She postulated a ridiculous argument and you are defending that. As Margaret Thatcher once observed, socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money.

I'm not missing the point at all, and I'm not defending her argument either.

I'm just showing where you are wrong in what she supposedly said or didn't say. You stated up front that she said heirs should be treated like welfare recipients (e.g. get drug tested). She never said that heirs should be drug tested. She used a ridiculous analogy to try and support the death tax.

It's a conservative site, you saw the headline and ran with it. The only thing left to question is whether you were bleating as you did it.

 

[WVPATX]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

Just as I thought you are a big government liberal. So the article accurately reflects your views on the estate tax. Not sure why you were complaining when I noted that it is a liberal thought process.

 

[WVPATX]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

She absolutely likened heirs to welfare recipients. Get over it. One involves public money and the other private but she can't see that because in her mind it is all the governments money.

 

[moe]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.


Are you illiterate? or just nuts?

 

[WhiteTailEER]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

Originally posted by WVPATX:
She absolutely likened heirs to welfare recipients. Get over it.

She did, I've stated at least twice now that it was a poor analogy to try and make her point. But what she DIDN'T do, as you claim, was to say that heir should be drug tested like welfare recipients.

Anything beyond that is you just trying to switch the topic up a bit.

Originally posted by WVPATX:
because in her mind

This is where you really start to sound overly obsessed and perhaps a bit crazy. "because in her mind" You're claiming you know her thought processes? You know her that well.

She used a poor analogy. OK.
She did NOT say heirs should be drug tested.

Her thoughts, I'm sure, don't represent the thoughts of all liberals either as you seem to claim.

You seem to have this need to place people in certain categories or boxes, and then based on what category or box they are in you seem to think you know everything they think and feel and it's just like everybody else that's in that same box.

That does make things a lot simpler. Perhaps that's why it appeals to you.

 

[WVPATX]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

Your post states your support for the estate tax. I like most conservatives are opposed to the death tax. You are a like-minded liberal as Sanchez. Not sure why you are claiming you're not.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

Originally posted by WVPATX:
Your post states your support for the estate tax. I like most conservatives are opposed to the death tax. You are a like-minded liberal as Sanchez. Not sure why you are claiming you're not.

You clearly on comprehend what you want to comprehend.

At no point did he say he supported the estate tax, only that it only applies to estates over $5M, that it doesn't affect a large number of people, it doesn't affect him, and it's been around for awhile and the rate has gone up and down.

There's nothing in there either supporting or admonishing it, just some of the basic facts about the tax.

 

[WVPATX]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

I asked if he supports the estate tax and he responds with statistics. of course he supports the estate tax. Do You support the death tax?

 

[mneilmont]

A lot of comments, but I do believe the lady was serious.

 

[dave]

Re: Keep votin against your own economic interests.

Tell me more about how the.gop is finished in virginia lunkhead.

 

[moe]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

Since you can't read and understand. I don't care about the estate tax. If it stays, fine, if it were to go away, that's fine too. It doesn't affect me and I don't care about it. Leave it to Republicans/conservatives to make it one of the first things that they want to address but it's always been a cause of great interest. Republicans favor the rich, that's no secret. If they're not on it already, they'll be seeking a cut in the capital gains tax next. It's like the sun coming up.
This post was edited on 3/20 8:13 AM by moe

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Re: Her hyperbole to make a point was lost on you.

Well, it applies to both my wife's side and my side of the family. Both of us invested large amounts of time and income into those estates. We have also struck out on our own to further advance ourselves. I personally think it's ******** as we're likely going to have to liquidate one of them to the point of closing the doors to one of the businesses in order to pay the tax. That will be 8 jobs lost and the loss of a significant tax stream to the very small local economy. In the other case we are utilizing every loop hole we can find to transfer the assets and money ahead of time.
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