Americans say something is very wrong with the country

WVPATX

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Reuters survey, 58 percent Americans say they “don’t identify with what America has become.” While Republicans and Independents are the most likely to agree with this statement, even 45 percent of Democrats share this feeling.

More than half of Americans, 53 percent, say they “feel like a stranger” in their own country. A minority of Americans feel “comfortable as myself" in the country.
 

Airport

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Reuters survey, 58 percent Americans say they “don’t identify with what America has become.” While Republicans and Independents are the most likely to agree with this statement, even 45 percent of Democrats share this feeling.

More than half of Americans, 53 percent, say they “feel like a stranger” in their own country. A minority of Americans feel “comfortable as myself" in the country.

The sad fact is, the voting public is pretty predictable.
 
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The sad fact is, the voting public is pretty predictable.
Yes. The public did give us the do-nothing GOP controlled Congress. Congress's approval rating is much, much worse than the President's. I'm sure that Congress's performance is the chief reason that so many Dems are disenfranchised. The fact is, the GOP vowed from Day 1 of the President's first term to obstruct. They won't do anything constructive. They thing govt is evil. Imagine that, these jackasses ran to lead the govt yet think the very institution they want to lead is the problem, We hear it all the time-"govt can't do anything right". Well, the govt may not be perfect and any organization that size will have inherent inefficiencies and abuses, But govt has implemented programs to feed the hungry, provide healthcare to the poor and elderly, and provide income through retirement. The govt has also won a couple of world wars developing an atom bomb in a couple years from scratch, constructed an interstate highway system, and put a man on the Moon. Other than that, I guess, the govt is evil and is the problem.
 

dave

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Yes. The public did give us the do-nothing GOP controlled Congress. Congress's approval rating is much, much worse than the President's. I'm sure that Congress's performance is the chief reason that so many Dems are disenfranchised. The fact is, the GOP vowed from Day 1 of the President's first term to obstruct. They won't do anything constructive. They thing govt is evil. Imagine that, these jackasses ran to lead the govt yet think the very institution they want to lead is the problem, We hear it all the time-"govt can't do anything right". Well, the govt may not be perfect and any organization that size will have inherent inefficiencies and abuses, But govt has implemented programs to feed the hungry, provide healthcare to the poor and elderly, and provide income through retirement. The govt has also won a couple of world wars developing an atom bomb in a couple years from scratch, constructed an interstate highway system, and put a man on the Moon. Other than that, I guess, the govt is evil and is the problem.

Always comical to watch libs become amazingly aware of the makeup of congress only when they need someone to blame for the lack of leadership from their pathetic president.
 

MountaineerWV

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Always comical to watch libs become amazingly aware of the makeup of congress only when they need someone to blame for the lack of leadership from their pathetic president.

Well, argue his point. You all keep saying "big government big government....bad bad bad....". Well, when the "big government" provided the Conservative Republicans with what they wanted (military, weapons, interstate system, etc.) then it's fine and OK. But when the government attempts to help out those who may not be able to afford things such as health care (I'm talking about the WORKING POOR...those with jobs), then it's "bad".
 

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Well, argue his point. You all keep saying "big government big government....bad bad bad....". Well, when the "big government" provided the Conservative Republicans with what they wanted (military, weapons, interstate system, etc.) then it's fine and OK. But when the government attempts to help out those who may not be able to afford things such as health care (I'm talking about the WORKING POOR...those with jobs), then it's "bad".
That's an opinion.
 

dave

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Well, argue his point. You all keep saying "big government big government....bad bad bad....". Well, when the "big government" provided the Conservative Republicans with what they wanted (military, weapons, interstate system, etc.) then it's fine and OK. But when the government attempts to help out those who may not be able to afford things such as health care (I'm talking about the WORKING POOR...those with jobs), then it's "bad".
I guess your post is an admission that democrats dont care about defense or roads because you suggest that big government gave those things to conservative republicans. That whole notion is ridiculous. Defense and interstate commerce are specifically called out in the constitution. These are used equally by citizens of every state so it makes sense.

Its not the govt. job to provide health care. It is certainly not governments job to force people to buy coverage or pay a fine and tell people how much insurance they must buy whether they can afford it or not.
 
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MountaineerWV

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I guess your post is an admission that democrats dont care about defense or roads because you suggest that big government gave those things to conservative republicans. That whole notion is ridiculous. Defense and interstate commerce are specifically called out in the constitution. These are used equally by citizens of every state so it makes sense.

Its not the govt. job to provide health care. It is certainly not governments job to force people to buy coverage or pay a fine and tell people how much insurance they must buy whether they can afford it or not.

You could also say it's not the government's job to have and run a bank, but we did. It wasn't the government's job (according to the Constitution) to acquire new territories without specifics.....but we did. Hiding behind the Constitution for things isn't the greatest defense when Conservatives have used it before to get their way.
 

dave

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You could also say it's not the government's job to have and run a bank, but we did. It wasn't the government's job (according to the Constitution) to acquire new territories without specifics.....but we did. Hiding behind the Constitution for things isn't the greatest defense when Conservatives have used it before to get their way.
Ok. I have no idea what your point is except you dont like republicans but you like democrats. I already knew that when you gleefully admitted you were a state employee.
 

WVPATX

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I think the Libs on the board have once again misread the poll. I do not think it is a big government versus small government issue. That has always been with us. I think it is the extreme divisiveness that exist in our country. I think it includes the extremely politically correct nature of our institutions, including the media and our universities. I believe it is the racial divisiveness and the extreme elements of the black lives matter movement. I think most Americans have a great deal of respect for police officers. I think it is the withdrawal of American leadership from the world. I think it is an economy that has been putrid for the last eight years dramatically hurting the middle class. I think it is the elites living on both coasts that have no idea what middle America is like. And I think it is an arrogant political class that doesn't care.
 

Airport

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Yes. The public did give us the do-nothing GOP controlled Congress. Congress's approval rating is much, much worse than the President's. I'm sure that Congress's performance is the chief reason that so many Dems are disenfranchised. The fact is, the GOP vowed from Day 1 of the President's first term to obstruct. They won't do anything constructive. They thing govt is evil. Imagine that, these jackasses ran to lead the govt yet think the very institution they want to lead is the problem, We hear it all the time-"govt can't do anything right". Well, the govt may not be perfect and any organization that size will have inherent inefficiencies and abuses, But govt has implemented programs to feed the hungry, provide healthcare to the poor and elderly, and provide income through retirement. The govt has also won a couple of world wars developing an atom bomb in a couple years from scratch, constructed an interstate highway system, and put a man on the Moon. Other than that, I guess, the govt is evil and is the problem.

There was nothing the GOP could do about the Presidents agenda. The dems even got Healthcare thru by reconciliation. The Presidents actions turned off the voting public even though they liked him. He single handedly gave the GOP both houses and hopefully, the White House. The, I hope we repeal Obama care by the same means that they passed it. By reconciliation. By feeding the hungry, do you mean all the welfare that has kept the blacks from doing anything other than looking to govt to provide for them as a whole. The govt's sole task is to keep us safe. By the way, govt can't pay for all the things that's been promised. Where are those funds going to come from in another 10 years?
 

MountaineerWV

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There was nothing the GOP could do about the Presidents agenda. The dems even got Healthcare thru by reconciliation. The Presidents actions turned off the voting public even though they liked him. He single handedly gave the GOP both houses and hopefully, the White House. The, I hope we repeal Obama care by the same means that they passed it. By reconciliation. By feeding the hungry, do you mean all the welfare that has kept the blacks from doing anything other than looking to govt to provide for them as a whole. The govt's sole task is to keep us safe. By the way, govt can't pay for all the things that's been promised. Where are those funds going to come from in another 10 years?

More and more misinformation. You do realize that the numbers don't support your racist, nativist words again?

FACT:

40% of the food stamp recipients were WHITE!
25% were African-American
10% were Hispanic


But, go ahead, continue to spew off your remarks and pretend/think they are the truth.
 
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There was nothing the GOP could do about the Presidents agenda. The dems even got Healthcare thru by reconciliation. The Presidents actions turned off the voting public even though they liked him. He single handedly gave the GOP both houses and hopefully, the White House. The, I hope we repeal Obama care by the same means that they passed it. By reconciliation. By feeding the hungry, do you mean all the welfare that has kept the blacks from doing anything other than looking to govt to provide for them as a whole. The govt's sole task is to keep us safe. By the way, govt can't pay for all the things that's been promised. Where are those funds going to come from in another 10 years?
Obama promise universal healthcare and he delivered. And he was re-elected. And the govt's "sole task" is not to keep us safe. The govt has multiple roles. The first sentence of the Constitution clearly spells out the roles of govt: establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, and promote the general welfare. The Constitution is indeed a living document. The Framers clearly intended for it to be just that.
 

Airport

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Obama promise universal healthcare and he delivered. And he was re-elected. And the govt's "sole task" is not to keep us safe. The govt has multiple roles. The first sentence of the Constitution clearly spells out the roles of govt: establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, and promote the general welfare. The Constitution is indeed a living document. The Framers clearly intended for it to be just that.
Promote general welfare was not meant to promote govt provided welfare. Domestic tranqulitiy was not meant for a domestic agitator in chief. Clearly, libs have changed the entire meaning of that passage and for the worse.
 

Airport

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More and more misinformation. You do realize that the numbers don't support your racist, nativist words again?

FACT:

40% of the food stamp recipients were WHITE!
25% were African-American
10% were Hispanic


But, go ahead, continue to spew off your remarks and pretend/think they are the truth.
Blacks make up 15% of the population but 25% of the welfare recipients. I know that whites get more than blacks because there's more of them. Still, it hasn't worked. Calif has 11% of the population but have 22% of govt assistance. Hispanics make up what % of the population ? 12% maybe but 10% of food stamp recip? Brilliant.