An example of collateral damage with the reseating...

[RocketDawg]

It's a little more than free hotdogs, but your point still stands. You get hamburgers too ....

I probably could have given a lump sum of, say 5K, just to get my priority up, then just the minimum each year, and have good seats from now to eternity (or the next reseating). Remember ... "now" money counts more than past money. Wouldn't have to be TTF.

 

[dawgstudent]

Of course, there are more amenities and if I could, I would sit there. The scoreboard club sounds like the way to go especially if you are going to be sitting in the endzone in the current club level.

 

[00Dawg]

Wow, almost an $8M bump that surely has to coincide with Mullen injecting winning back into our football program.

ETA: Nevermind. That's probably when they changed the Bulldog Foundation bookkeeping methods. Sorry, man, I think your argument just lost a lot of mojo.

 

[Seinfeld]

The one big mistake that I think Strick made when coming up with this reseating plan was that they didn't ever offer any sort of option to keep your current seats and be done with it. Whether it's making people pay a one-time $5k, join TTF, or pay $10 million, they should have had an option to pony up and be rewarded by staying where you were. Nothing's ever going to be enough to make everyone happy, but that probably would have gone a long way in preventing much of the current moaning and groaning. It probably would have generated a nice spike in revenue too.

 

[Seinfeld]

My family has talked about every option from the West side lower level to skyboxes over the last few years, and this whole process has a funny way of making pretty substantial incremental costs seem not so big when you're looking at it from a per seat basis. Anyway, a couple months ago, we got to the point of having just about decided on West side chairbacks and then my brother-in-law and I said to each other... Are we really about to drop $11K (10 seats) on football tickets? Long story short, we'll now just be staying where we are

 

[GoodPadLevel]

The one big mistake that I think Strick made when coming up with this reseating plan was that they didn't ever offer any sort of option to keep your current seats and be done with it. Whether it's making people pay a one-time $5k, join TTF, or pay $10 million, they should have had an option to pony up and be rewarded by staying where you were. Nothing's ever going to be enough to make everyone happy, but that probably would have gone a long way in preventing much of the current moaning and groaning. It probably would have generated a nice spike in revenue too.

Unless deals were made on the West Side, what will be the reaction when people realize a lot of the West Side option seats and prized Section 04 seats are already taken by the TTF folks?

 

[Seinfeld]

I could be easily underestimating their presence, but I don't think that TTF folks make up much of the Sec 4 seats at all. I've sat there for the last few years, and trust me when I say that I'm nowhere near being a TTF donor. I even had an option to add a couple extras last year that were leftovers after all season ticket holders had renewed. If I remember correctly, there are only ~ 300 TTF donors, and I'd suspect that the vast majority of them are either in skyboxes or the club level.

When this thing's all said and done, I think that there will be a lot fewer people "pushed" out of their seats than what is being speculated at the moment, and the bulk of the ones being pushed out will be your old timers that have been hanging on to prime seats for decades by making bare minimum BC contributions. Maybe I'm crazy in thinking this, but I think that most people will have plenty of options to choose from(including upgrading their seats) when their turn comes up.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

Patdog, you are very misinformed. I don't know why I am shocked. The internal rate of return on those life insurance policies was better than 8% annually and the Death benefit rate of return exceeded 10% because several started when they were in their 30's and died in their 50's. You argue use of money in one post and then try to change it in another. Obviously, someone needs to sit down with you and explain life insurance to you but that would be impossible since you and coach34 spend all your time on message boards. When MSU started accepting life insurance for gifting, Honeybee Davis went up to the University of Tenn and in the 70's they were bringing in over two million a year from death claims. I know MSU now does a lot more than that annually. argue all you want to, but you are wrong on this one but that does not change the fact that if folks were bumped out of their seats because they had no information about it and it won't be changed in the future no matter what they do, then MSU was wrong.

If you continue to give as much as the new guys are giving, you will have better seats than them because of your prior giving. If you give less than they do currently, you don't deserve seats as good as theirs. It's that simple. You do get a bonus for prior giving, but as I've pointed out, you've ALREADY been rewarded for that with premium seating for 11 years. If you want as good seats this year, you're going to have to match what others are paying for those seats. As for it being smart to leave the proceeds of an insurance policy to MSU, on average the university will receive more if you simply donated the premiums to it instead of the proceeds. It's a pretty simple fact that insurance companies stay in business by paying out less in claims than they take in in premiums and the investment income from those premiums. But it is a good deal for your insurance agent and the insurance company.

 

[Weedy]

I want to point out that everyone that is in the Bulldog Club and/or a season ticket holder received a brochure regarding the stadium expansion back in the summer of 2012. On the cover was a artist drawing of the "new" DWS, on the inside were several pages with further drawings, and on the back cover next to our mailing address was Tyler Russell in uniform. If I could find this brochure, I would have scanned it. The inside pages addressed each of the new seating options (sky boxes, Scoreboard Club, Loge Seating and Gridiron Club). Contained in this brochure were the deadlines for securing your seats in any of these options. That brochure also clearly spelled out what the benefits of TTF were. Along with the information contained in the brochure, it also directed us to the DWS expansion website that had further information and it also said we could call the Bulldog Club. I know that I am a infrequent poster here, but the argument that you did not know what was going to happen and that the AD did not inform you does not hold water. The information was mailed and has been available on the Hailstate website for almost two years. The onus was on every Bulldog Club member to evaluate their options and make a commitment prior to the March 1, 2014 deadline. Because someone did not do that does not mean that the blame should be placed at the feet of the athletic department, Stricklin, Mike Richey or Bully. The blame should start and end with the BC member who failed to believe all the information and evidence before them and just assumed they would be taken care of.