Ancient Aliens

Monroe Claxton

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Is anyone watching this show? Even if 1% of what they are claiming is true, they are here or they were here
 

TortElvisII

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lol

If I could get a dime for every Larry who believes in aliens, I'd be retired right now.

 

Kaizer Sosay

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Is anyone watching this show? Even if 1% of what they are claiming is true, they are here or they were here


They were already here. About 70 years ago. They came…they saw...they partied for a bit with some celebrities and socialites...and then they stole all of the people who were destined to have children who would be the best politicians of our time. And just as quickly as they showed up…poof…they were gone back to Planet X.

And so we are left with the crumbs…The Donald and Hillary.

#whatcouldhavebeen

#alienlivesmatter
 

DaBossIsBack

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Quick down and dirty

This. Pretty basic stuff that one would learn in undergrad. Or in high school if you attended a decent school. For our sake we better hope that we are the most advanced civilization in the universe/multiverse. Or we may end up squashed like ants.
 

jtrue28

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If there are living things that have traveled here, they're obviously MUCH smarter than we are. Why would they waste their time here?
 
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so there is show saying mexicans built the pyramids? i guess i could see that. they are some hard working peoples.
 

herodotus6

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Even at one in ten chances to harbor life as we know it, that's still a pretty good number of chances for life to form.

Think about life as we know it, the order of the most abundant elements needed for life are Hydrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, and Nitrogen. Now, think about the most abundant elements in the universe. With the exception of Helium being the second most abundant element, which is an inert gas and doesn't react with anything anyway, it is a one to one match on what is needed for life.

Not only that, we are Carbon based. Carbon is the most reactive of all the elements out there. You can make more molecules using carbon than what you can make using the rest of the periodic table combined. So not only is life as we know it made up of the most abundant things in the universe, it took the path of least resistance to form.

Besides, history has shown that every time we try to make ourselves special in the universe, we are wrong. We once thought Earth was the center of the universe. Wrong. Earth was flat. Wrong. The sun then became the center of the universe. Wrong. The solar system was one of a kind. Wrong. The Milky Way was one of a kind. Wrong. Now we believe we might be the only life out there.

What is more likely to be the case? That of the whole universe, we formed life here, and only here, making us a 0.00000000000000000001% anomaly to flip the bird to the universe; plus not only did we form life, when the universe hurtled extinction level events at us, we just kicked it in the nuts and did it again. Or, because the universe's abundant elements and what is needed to make life as we know it is a one to one match, life is a common occurance in the universe, but the universe is just too vast and we aren't advanced enough to find it.
 

Ukbrassowtipin

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Probably not intelligent life, but more than likely some type of organisms, bacteria, etc. Which begs the question if you believe in God....why would he be like "ah, I'll just drop some microscopic organisms here in the middle of nowhere"
 

herodotus6

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Probably not intelligent life, but more than likely some type of organisms, bacteria, etc. Which begs the question if you believe in God....why would he be like "ah, I'll just drop some microscopic organisms here in the middle of nowhere"
That's the biggest fear of those who use God is the creator theory. If life exists elsewhere that is different from our own, it kinda shoots all sorts of holes on all kinds of religions.

It has been the biggest setback/flaw among some of our greatest scientists/astrophysicists, if they can't explain it, it must be God at work.

Newton and Capernicus both used Intelligent Design as an excuse to explain what they didn't know about the orbit of the planets. They couldn't explain it, so it must be God's work. Yet, in time, there has been a scientific discovery, not Devine to explain what we didn't know at the time.
 
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That's the biggest fear of those who use God is the creator theory. If life exists elsewhere that is different from our own, it kinda shoots all sorts of holes on all kinds of religions.

It has been the biggest setback/flaw among some of our greatest scientists/astrophysicists, if they can't explain it, it must be God at work.

Newton and Capernicus both used Intelligent Design as an excuse to explain what they didn't know about the orbit of the planets. They couldn't explain it, so it must be God's work. Yet, in time, there has been a scientific discovery, not Devine to explain what we didn't know at the time.

 
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JamesIII

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Mathematically it's pretty unlikely that aliens exist.

[roll]

Do you really understand mathematics and probabilities? Especially when you're talking about trillions of billions of stars - most of which will have planets?
 

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Do you really understand mathematics and probabilities? Especially when you're talking about trillions of billions of stars - most of which will have planets?
I don't think you understand the harsh environment of space and the very specific requirements for life. You, along with the rest of the laymen here, drastically overestimate the likelihood of extraterrestrial life. Is it possible? Sure. Likely? No way. And that is without discussing the advanced life. The chances of advanced extraterrestrial life is near zero.
 

DaBossIsBack

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I don't think you understand the harsh environment of space and the very specific requirements for life. You, along with the rest of the laymen here, drastically overestimate the likelihood of extraterrestrial life. Is it possible? Sure. Likely? No way. And that is without discussing the advanced life. The chances of advanced extraterrestrial life is near zero.
Sagan suggested that there could be as many as 1 million advanced civilizations in our own galaxy. Pretty big number but who am I to question Sagan? Some more conservative numbers, using the Drake equation, have suggested anywhere from 3-4 to 1,000 in our galaxy. There are billions and billions of galaxies in the universe. Is it possible you're right? Sure. Likely? No way.
 

TortElvisII

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The earth is about 4.5 billion years old. For the last 35,000 or so years it has had a inhabitant that developed a written language. It has had the ability to get into space over the last 59 years and has never gotten out of the solar system. During that time it has had the ability to destroy itself but has not. 59/4.5*10 to the ninth.

How long can advanced civilizations last? Do they mostly destroy themselves? How many ever approach interstellar space travel?

How many co-exist at same time? For 2 billion years life here in the Goldilocks Zone was very simple.

Knowing all of that would make me think intelligent life is rare and long lived intelligence is even more rare. Even being rare there is a big space out there.
 

DaBossIsBack

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The earth is about 4.5 billion years old. For the last 35,000 or so years it has had a inhabitant that developed a written language. It has had the ability to get into space over the last 59 years and has never gotten out of the solar system. During that time it has had the ability to destroy itself but has not. 59/4.5*10 to the ninth.

How long can advanced civilizations last? Do they mostly destroy themselves? How many ever approach interstellar space travel?

How many co-exist at same time? For 2 billion years life here in the Goldilocks Zone was very simple.

Knowing all of that would make me think intelligent life is rare and long lived intelligence is even more rare. Even being rare there is a big space out there.
It is without question rare. Like you said though. With vastness of the universe there could be 1 million advanced civilizations and that would still be rare.
 
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TortElvisII

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I wonder most of all how long advanced civilizations survive. Surely some have. Many likely destroyed themselves. Or made contact and got destroyed.
 
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DaBossIsBack

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I wonder most of all how long advanced civilizations survive. Surely some have. Many likely destroyed themselves. Or made contact and got destroyed.
I think that if you can make it to a type 3 civilization then you can ensure the preservation of the species until the universe runs out of energy or collapses in on itself. You're also probably safe from self destruction if you can make it to a type 2.