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Recruit’s Facebook Hate Claim Is Bogus</h2><div class="dropshadow1" style="margin-top: 2px;"><div class="postdate">Posted by Brooks on Jan. 26, 2011, 9:03am</div></div>
Five weeks ago, the state of Mississippi’s top football recruit,
linebacker CJ Johnson, said the following about his
verbal commitment to play football at Mississippi State:<a href="http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/reneging-recruits-facebook-hate-claim-bogus-29442">
</a></p><p align="center">
</p>
Naturally, Johnson made his final commitment yesterday to Ole Miss.</p>
Despite Johnson’s previous commit to MSU, his flip-flop wasn’t a
surprise. The first week of January, after then-Mississippi State
defensive coordinator Manny Diaz was hired to take over
the Univ. of Texas defense, Johnson told the MOBILE PRESS-REGISTER that
his commit to MSU was wavering. Johnson:</p>
Once Johnson made public that his football services were again up for
grabs, all hell broke loose on his personal Facebook page.</p>
Until his verbal yesterday, the “wall” of Johnson’s Facebook page was
littered with accusations that his mother had been hired for a
high-paying job by an Ole Miss operative days before the linebacker
prospect spurned Mississippi State in early January.</p>
Hours before he committed to Mississippi yesterday, Johnson posted
the following message on that same Facebook page:</p><p align="center">
</p>
<p align="left">One minute later, Johnson posted a somewhat
contradictory message about why he wouldn’t be seen in Starkvegas
anytime soon:</p><p align="center">
</p>
So Johnson said he was upset at the wall posts on his personal
Facebook page and that those comments led him to spurn Mississippi State
but that his decision to attend Ole Miss “wasn’t based off Facebook
either.”</p>
In a story published today in the JACKSON (MS) CLARION-LEDGER,
Johnson said of his final commit to Ole Miss: “Man, I’m
done with this crap and I’m ready to get it over with.”</p>
More from Johnson:</p>
Johnson’s mother Linda added to the Clarion-Ledger, “I
thank God this is my last round. It’s been really crazy this time.”</p>
Obviously the abuse Johnson was subjected to by fans was uncalled
for, but what he neglected to mention is that he authorized every single
person who posted the messages that apparently caused him and his
mother such consternation to do so.<span id="more-29442"></span></p>
If Johnson hadn’t granted over 2,000 friend requests made to his
now-deleted Facebook account, none of the ugliness would’ve happened.</p>
In truth, Johnson fed off the drama he himself created - until
accusations about his mother were injected into the equation by Facebook
users who supposedly represented the interests of Mississippi State
football.</p>
Johnson then delivered a classless, parting shot at Mississippi State
fans, despite the fact that he himself facilitated the messages posted
about his mother. (And for all we know the people who posted those
messages did not represent the interests of MSU.)</p>
What’s most disconcerting about this story isn’t what actually
happened, but how it was covered in the main media. The press reported
that Johnson was relieved to end his recruitment because he was getting
harassed on his Facebook page. But as you now know, Johnson had as much
to do with that as anyone, and at the very least could’ve deleted the
page at the first sign of trouble.</p>
But instead we get the latest of the seemingly endless stories about
what an evil thing Facebook is, instead of holding the athlete who
enabled the situation accountable.</p>
No one asked Johnson, “why did you friend everyone … why
didn’t you delete the account weeks ago if you had concerns?”</p>
Understand that Facebook and Twitter are software-driven sites. Users
are given tools that allow them virtual total control over their
accounts. Even after the account is deleted!</p>
Remember that the next time you hear someone, athlete or otherwise,
claim that Facebook or Twitter is to blame for their so-called woes.<a href="http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ex-gator-deleted-twitter-because-hes-innocent-29440">
</a></p><p align="center">
</p>
Like
a certain former Florida Gator.</p>
Recruit’s Facebook Hate Claim Is Bogus</h2><div class="dropshadow1" style="margin-top: 2px;"><div class="postdate">Posted by Brooks on Jan. 26, 2011, 9:03am</div></div>
Five weeks ago, the state of Mississippi’s top football recruit,
linebacker CJ Johnson, said the following about his
verbal commitment to play football at Mississippi State:<a href="http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/reneging-recruits-facebook-hate-claim-bogus-29442">
</a></p><p align="center">
</p>Naturally, Johnson made his final commitment yesterday to Ole Miss.</p>
Despite Johnson’s previous commit to MSU, his flip-flop wasn’t a
surprise. The first week of January, after then-Mississippi State
defensive coordinator Manny Diaz was hired to take over
the Univ. of Texas defense, Johnson told the MOBILE PRESS-REGISTER that
his commit to MSU was wavering. Johnson:</p>
Once Johnson made public that his football services were again up for
grabs, all hell broke loose on his personal Facebook page.</p>
Until his verbal yesterday, the “wall” of Johnson’s Facebook page was
littered with accusations that his mother had been hired for a
high-paying job by an Ole Miss operative days before the linebacker
prospect spurned Mississippi State in early January.</p>
Hours before he committed to Mississippi yesterday, Johnson posted
the following message on that same Facebook page:</p><p align="center">
<p align="left">One minute later, Johnson posted a somewhat
contradictory message about why he wouldn’t be seen in Starkvegas
anytime soon:</p><p align="center">
So Johnson said he was upset at the wall posts on his personal
Facebook page and that those comments led him to spurn Mississippi State
but that his decision to attend Ole Miss “wasn’t based off Facebook
either.”</p>
In a story published today in the JACKSON (MS) CLARION-LEDGER,
Johnson said of his final commit to Ole Miss: “Man, I’m
done with this crap and I’m ready to get it over with.”</p>
More from Johnson:</p>
Johnson’s mother Linda added to the Clarion-Ledger, “I
thank God this is my last round. It’s been really crazy this time.”</p>
Obviously the abuse Johnson was subjected to by fans was uncalled
for, but what he neglected to mention is that he authorized every single
person who posted the messages that apparently caused him and his
mother such consternation to do so.<span id="more-29442"></span></p>
If Johnson hadn’t granted over 2,000 friend requests made to his
now-deleted Facebook account, none of the ugliness would’ve happened.</p>
In truth, Johnson fed off the drama he himself created - until
accusations about his mother were injected into the equation by Facebook
users who supposedly represented the interests of Mississippi State
football.</p>
Johnson then delivered a classless, parting shot at Mississippi State
fans, despite the fact that he himself facilitated the messages posted
about his mother. (And for all we know the people who posted those
messages did not represent the interests of MSU.)</p>
What’s most disconcerting about this story isn’t what actually
happened, but how it was covered in the main media. The press reported
that Johnson was relieved to end his recruitment because he was getting
harassed on his Facebook page. But as you now know, Johnson had as much
to do with that as anyone, and at the very least could’ve deleted the
page at the first sign of trouble.</p>
But instead we get the latest of the seemingly endless stories about
what an evil thing Facebook is, instead of holding the athlete who
enabled the situation accountable.</p>
No one asked Johnson, “why did you friend everyone … why
didn’t you delete the account weeks ago if you had concerns?”</p>
Understand that Facebook and Twitter are software-driven sites. Users
are given tools that allow them virtual total control over their
accounts. Even after the account is deleted!</p>
Remember that the next time you hear someone, athlete or otherwise,
claim that Facebook or Twitter is to blame for their so-called woes.<a href="http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ex-gator-deleted-twitter-because-hes-innocent-29440">
</a></p><p align="center">
</p>Like
a certain former Florida Gator.</p>
that's like saying if you don't want to be shot by someone in public - don't leave the house.
I know that's an extreme comparison but these people on facebook shouldn't be contacting a recruit. It's just insane to me.
I know that's an extreme comparison but these people on facebook shouldn't be contacting a recruit. It's just insane to me.
But he could have easily defriended or blocked the guy that was messaging him over and over. I think he liked the attention until somebody said something about his mamma.
At worst, he didn't operate his FB page properly. ****, we still have people who can't figure out how to reply to a post and they've been here (both sites) for over a year... It's not a stretch to think that he just wasn't that familiar with the controls on FB.
At best, just because he accepts a friend request does not, in any form or fashion, mean he "invited" idiot interneters to put nasty, mean stupid crap on his wall. This writer has an agenda and it's obvious.
At best, just because he accepts a friend request does not, in any form or fashion, mean he "invited" idiot interneters to put nasty, mean stupid crap on his wall. This writer has an agenda and it's obvious.
But the fact that this article attempts to impugn HIS credibility by blaming HIM for accepting the friend requests is idiotic.
If you accept my friend request and I go on your FB wall and post some stupid, controversial crap that you don't agree with and it becomes a national media story, you have every right to point your finger at me and say "he's the one who believes (blank), not me." Bottomline, you would not be responsible in the least for what I said on your wall. To think otherwise is lunacy. And to blame YOU for allowing me on your FB page is also retarded.
If you accept my friend request and I go on your FB wall and post some stupid, controversial crap that you don't agree with and it becomes a national media story, you have every right to point your finger at me and say "he's the one who believes (blank), not me." Bottomline, you would not be responsible in the least for what I said on your wall. To think otherwise is lunacy. And to blame YOU for allowing me on your FB page is also retarded.
My point is that if he was being harrassed by a select few, the second harrassing message he received from any one of them would be on him.
If the FB thing was really an issue, he could have done something about it long time ago.<div>The real issue is he's trying to manufacture an excuse. He should have just said something like 'there are many reasons to choose a college and that after much thought, I've decided that I will be happiest in Oxford' and leave it at that. That would still be ******** but at least it makes you look like somewhat less of a jackass.</div>
I think he loved the attention that he was getting until some dumbass took it too far by calling out his momma. It's a sad 17n day when we lose a recruit because of some dumbass fan.
there is no reason whatsoever to contact them other than you personally know the individual. and even if you know them, you should have enough sense to know that screwing with an 18 year old kid about a major life decision is absolutely retarded.
I'd be willing to bet the people that DID in fact "screw with him" about a major life decision, either through contact as an Bear booster or as a planted "MSU" fan on facebook, don't feel that way. In fact I bet there is some high-fiving going on behind the scenes and plans being made for the next recruit they can "screw with".
it's almost like the folks willing to do some **** like this are envious of the "power" that they see Gene and Yancy have to affect the way a recruit makes decisions. they want to somehow be part of the process. news flash though, envy of those guys is lunacy.
dawgstudent said:
...if, when you left your house, you had the ability to control* who you come in contact with and who you talk to. But I completely agree with your other comment.
* I don't do the facebook thing. But it's my understanding that you have options on restricting who can view your page and post on your wall. I could be wrong.
You have to "accept" any friend request sent to you. And until someone is accepted as a friend, they can't see or post anything to your wall.
** note: you can allow anonymous ppl to see your wall, but they can't post anything.
** note: you can allow anonymous ppl to see your wall, but they can't post anything.
if not rural highschool life. He didn't need to worry about his FB wall and he probably only had one because his real life friends had them too.
Almost overnight, he became the desire of thousands of grown up men (and a few women with softball equipment in the trunk) who are WAAAYYY to 17'd up to realize that the simple act of befriending a recruit on FB is, in and of itself, psychotic.
Being a young, naive and relatively innocent kid from a rural background dealing with that kind of influx of interest and internet attention would be difficult to say the least. I don't FB, so I wouldn't know as fact, but if you're getting hundreds of FB friend requests a day/week, isn't it just easier to "accept all" and not think much about it? Then later, once his decision wavered (OMG!!/!??!1 DID YOU HEAR WHAT CJ IS SAYING ABOUT OUR SCHOOL AND WHERE HE'S GONNA PLAY!!!?/1!?!?!?!?) some of the folks he'd accepted began cussing him because they are completely unhinged, slack jawed, drooling pathetic idiots.
There is no scenario on the face of this earth in which holding CJ responsible for ANYTHING that happened during his recruitment makes sense.
If he had done the worst possible thing ever; i.e. taken money from one school, cashed the checks, worn the clothes, told everyone he's coming, signed early, etc and then switched to that schools rival ON NSD. He STILL does not deserve to be attacked personally by people who don't know him. He STILL does not deserve to have internet psycho's call him and his family names.
Bottomline is that the people who posted nasty **** on his wall are to blame, and ONLY those people are to blame. It doesn't matter what school's fans did it, it's ridiculous no matter what.
Almost overnight, he became the desire of thousands of grown up men (and a few women with softball equipment in the trunk) who are WAAAYYY to 17'd up to realize that the simple act of befriending a recruit on FB is, in and of itself, psychotic.
Being a young, naive and relatively innocent kid from a rural background dealing with that kind of influx of interest and internet attention would be difficult to say the least. I don't FB, so I wouldn't know as fact, but if you're getting hundreds of FB friend requests a day/week, isn't it just easier to "accept all" and not think much about it? Then later, once his decision wavered (OMG!!/!??!1 DID YOU HEAR WHAT CJ IS SAYING ABOUT OUR SCHOOL AND WHERE HE'S GONNA PLAY!!!?/1!?!?!?!?) some of the folks he'd accepted began cussing him because they are completely unhinged, slack jawed, drooling pathetic idiots.
There is no scenario on the face of this earth in which holding CJ responsible for ANYTHING that happened during his recruitment makes sense.
If he had done the worst possible thing ever; i.e. taken money from one school, cashed the checks, worn the clothes, told everyone he's coming, signed early, etc and then switched to that schools rival ON NSD. He STILL does not deserve to be attacked personally by people who don't know him. He STILL does not deserve to have internet psycho's call him and his family names.
Bottomline is that the people who posted nasty **** on his wall are to blame, and ONLY those people are to blame. It doesn't matter what school's fans did it, it's ridiculous no matter what.
a recruit on the sixpack? Right? Or will you be shutting the page down for a couple of months next year?
I know the comparison it isn't apples to apples, but the same logic applies. Somebody ripping the kid on his facebook page isn't a whole lot different than ripping him here.
And on a side note: when did these recruits become "kids?" They always have been to me, now suddenly they are to a lot of people.
I know the comparison it isn't apples to apples, but the same logic applies. Somebody ripping the kid on his facebook page isn't a whole lot different than ripping him here.
And on a side note: when did these recruits become "kids?" They always have been to me, now suddenly they are to a lot of people.
when someone rips on a kid here, that recruit would have to come to the website to see it. additionally, all of his friends, family, etc. who are friends with him on facebook would have to come here to see it. on facebook if you make a post screwing with the guy, then instantly everyone of his family, friends, etc. will see it. it is "his" page versus this being an open forum. does it suck for the recruit to be bashed here? sure. does it suck worse to have it on his own personal page where everyone he is friends with will also see it? absolutely.
i can easily see someone saying "screw those guys on that website" and just letting it go. the guy can never come to this website to read it if he doesn't want to. now, having to personally delete the comments from your own page so that your family and friends don't read derogatory things about you is a different animal altogether.
Message boards are built specifically for the purpose of anonymous exchange of information and ideas. It's completely logical (although still creepy and weird) for crootnicks to get on their own schools message board and blast a croots decision to attend the other school.
It is entirely different to actually make internet friends with a 17year old you've never met based solely on his athletic prowess and choice of colleges. And then, to carry it further, personally insult him for that choice.
FB appears to be similar to a phone call. You don't have to pick up the phone if you don't recognize the number calling you, but when you do pick it up, it doesn't give the caller the right to blast you and your family for choosing one college over another. It's bad practice. It's psycho and it's dumb.
It is entirely different to actually make internet friends with a 17year old you've never met based solely on his athletic prowess and choice of colleges. And then, to carry it further, personally insult him for that choice.
FB appears to be similar to a phone call. You don't have to pick up the phone if you don't recognize the number calling you, but when you do pick it up, it doesn't give the caller the right to blast you and your family for choosing one college over another. It's bad practice. It's psycho and it's dumb.
Think of it this way, he let a whole bunch of complete random strangers into his living room willingly thinking it'd be a big old party. Now he's mad someone took a dump on his couch.
Does it suck someone took a deuce on the sofa yeah, is the guy who did it a jerk absolutely. Why was the guy there in the first place? Oh yeah junior wanted to get some attention.
There are so many ways to set your Facebook account to avoid exactly this type of situation. He chose not to because he liked sending out wall posts alluding to which school he would choose because he likethe attention. He had over 2000 Facebook friends. It should be a learning experience for him because fans aren't going to start acting normal any time soon. Just ask Jay Cutler. </p>
Does it suck someone took a deuce on the sofa yeah, is the guy who did it a jerk absolutely. Why was the guy there in the first place? Oh yeah junior wanted to get some attention.
There are so many ways to set your Facebook account to avoid exactly this type of situation. He chose not to because he liked sending out wall posts alluding to which school he would choose because he likethe attention. He had over 2000 Facebook friends. It should be a learning experience for him because fans aren't going to start acting normal any time soon. Just ask Jay Cutler. </p>
You are right. It DOESN'T matter what school's fans did it. It only matters what school's fans he THINKS did it, and that is the only part of this story that makes me mad. I have no idea if the posts in question were really State people or Rebels with a plan, but NEITHER DOES HE. To switch to a rival school because of postings on a social network account by essentially anonymous people that you choose to believe are 100% legit absolutely boggles the mind. This is exactly why it is just no fun to follow recruiting anymore.OxpatchReb said:
I wonder where in the hell this dumbass fan got the idea for calling out mom in the first place?champ said:
http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com?topic=62697
his decision. I believe it did.
The internet has turned recruiting into a situation which requires recruits to become very, very worldly, very, very quickly. Kids who know NOTHING about the world outside (small town, USA) are thrown into a situation where their every word, act and decision is broadcast literally around the globe in minutes for people to scrutinize, publicize and retaliate.
I'll tell you this. If some how OPR's genes got muscled out of the way and my wife's athleticism gives our son the chance to play NCAA sports on scholarship, I'm limiting his recruiting to phone, written correspondence and in home visits period. End of story. From the day he is first contacted he'll be ignoring completely all media outlets besides written, phone and in home communications and he'll be allowed to resume those other media after his first day on campus. It's the only way to control and minimize the garbage and allow him to focus on what's important in the recruiting process.
The internet has turned recruiting into a situation which requires recruits to become very, very worldly, very, very quickly. Kids who know NOTHING about the world outside (small town, USA) are thrown into a situation where their every word, act and decision is broadcast literally around the globe in minutes for people to scrutinize, publicize and retaliate.
I'll tell you this. If some how OPR's genes got muscled out of the way and my wife's athleticism gives our son the chance to play NCAA sports on scholarship, I'm limiting his recruiting to phone, written correspondence and in home visits period. End of story. From the day he is first contacted he'll be ignoring completely all media outlets besides written, phone and in home communications and he'll be allowed to resume those other media after his first day on campus. It's the only way to control and minimize the garbage and allow him to focus on what's important in the recruiting process.
i believe he read it here<div>think about it; FB is not anonymous and most people don't have the balls to say things they will say anonymously</div><div>
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I'll agree it was really Ole Miss fans posting on CJ's page if you agree it was really MSU fans posting on PJ's page. Deal?<div>
</div><div>And yea, messaging recruits is retarded.</div>
</div><div>And yea, messaging recruits is retarded.</div>
and I'm sure anything being said about his Mom, even if there was some measure of truth to it, ticked him off but I believe his decision to OM was long before all that stuff started. The earliest any hard core rumors hit Six Pack on the subject was this past weekend and it was very obvious to me after his lukewarm visit at MSU the weekend before that he had no real intention to come with us and that everything had already been pretty much cast in stone.