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Our fan base hurts us more than anything when controversy surrounds our team. Others are totally mum and act as if there is nothing to see but our message boards explode with indignant demands for the truth and justice.
Freeze didn't have any call on this. There were conflicting reports, even with people saying that no one said anything anti-gay and the only thing was some rude laughing. It's looking more and more like the drama majors were, imagine this, overly dramatic about it. If you can't get the people accusing someone to spit out the same or a similar story, how can you punish those other people?
This was rich to me.
Bjork said he and Ole Miss' senior associate athletic director for academic support Derek Cowherd sat down with the players involved for 45 minutes Thursday night to talk about what happened Tuesday. Bjork said he told each player present to divulge any information they had about the incident and what was allegedly said during the performance.
"We encouraged them and we told them that if there's any information that they need to share to share that with the incident response team and make sure that all the facts were on the table," Bjork said.
This is like getting called into the principal's/boss's office or police station. You know you screwed up and that they have a pretty good idea of what you did but your not going to give up any more info than asked. No one certainly ever just volunteers info. What a spin and shell game by ole miss. Give the appearance of doing something while doing nothing.
Bjork said he and Ole Miss' senior associate athletic director for academic support Derek Cowherd sat down with the players involved for 45 minutes Thursday night to talk about what happened Tuesday. Bjork said he told each player present to divulge any information they had about the incident and what was allegedly said during the performance.
"We encouraged them and we told them that if there's any information that they need to share to share that with the incident response team and make sure that all the facts were on the table," Bjork said.
This is like getting called into the principal's/boss's office or police station. You know you screwed up and that they have a pretty good idea of what you did but your not going to give up any more info than asked. No one certainly ever just volunteers info. What a spin and shell game by ole miss. Give the appearance of doing something while doing nothing.
If you honestly believe this whole incident was just made up out of thin air by actors and the Daily Mississippian, you're a fool. If it honestly didn't happen, the players would have been all over the news for days denying it, but of course, no one did. Instead, they apologized to the actors.
As many times as something like this happens on their campus...
...you have to hand it to them: they are good at either spinning it in their favor or sweeping it under the rug altogether. I figured nothing much was gonna come out of it. Bet the farm that OM is on the ball right now finding someone to write an article on how Oxford and OM are so progressive (ranked # 1 in some bogus poll about the most progressive campuses in the universe) and full of awesomeness.
It's amazing to me how they always come out smelling like a rose.
...you have to hand it to them: they are good at either spinning it in their favor or sweeping it under the rug altogether. I figured nothing much was gonna come out of it. Bet the farm that OM is on the ball right now finding someone to write an article on how Oxford and OM are so progressive (ranked # 1 in some bogus poll about the most progressive campuses in the universe) and full of awesomeness.
It's amazing to me how they always come out smelling like a rose.
"Well that's all for this time, but join us next week"
for another thrilling episode of 'Ole Miss Bias Incident Response Team'!!!
(start the multicultural montage of people running to a rainbow colored van)
(cue music)
dun dundundun dundundundundun
gender, ethnicity, where you church
we'll come to help when you're in a lurch
orientation, handicap, creed or race
we put those bigots in their place
urban, preppie, or good old hick
we'll make sure no allegations stick
Bias Incident Response Teeeeeeaaaaaam...
Nothing to see here!
for another thrilling episode of 'Ole Miss Bias Incident Response Team'!!!
(start the multicultural montage of people running to a rainbow colored van)
(cue music)
dun dundundun dundundundundun
gender, ethnicity, where you church
we'll come to help when you're in a lurch
orientation, handicap, creed or race
we put those bigots in their place
urban, preppie, or good old hick
we'll make sure no allegations stick
Bias Incident Response Teeeeeeaaaaaam...
Nothing to see here!
There's a big difference between disrupting a play and disrupting a play while yelling gay slurs. Both are wrong, but the latter much more so. Did the players yell a gay slur? Apparently the evidence is far from clear. MSU fans will view it as yet another UM conspiracy/coverup while UM fans will view the initial report as ****** journalism (of which the DM has a long history). But neither of us know the truth and never will.
I stand by what I've said that this has been an embarrassment and that yelling a gay slur, if it happened, is disgusting behavior. But am I happy with the resolution? Absolutely. My frustration all along was with individuals acting like the behavior reported was not a big deal. Anyway, I'm ready to move on and play football.
I stand by what I've said that this has been an embarrassment and that yelling a gay slur, if it happened, is disgusting behavior. But am I happy with the resolution? Absolutely. My frustration all along was with individuals acting like the behavior reported was not a big deal. Anyway, I'm ready to move on and play football.
No, what's embarrassing is that you apparently "get it" that yelling out gay slurs is bad, but you are so blindly loyal to football that believe in some absurd conspiracy theory that the players are totally innocent, even though they never took to the Internet to deny it, nor did the athletic department, and in fact apologized to the actors for their conduct.
If this story wasn't true, it would have been denied vehemently and immediately.
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Fantastic!
I would demand justice if it were true, but since it isn't suddenly, lets just forget it and play football.
Masterful deflection dude. Great job of throwing your own university paper under the bus as well. I am more than sure they are willing to fall on their own sword to make this silly story go away.
I would demand justice if it were true, but since it isn't suddenly, lets just forget it and play football.
Masterful deflection dude. Great job of throwing your own university paper under the bus as well. I am more than sure they are willing to fall on their own sword to make this silly story go away.
All you have to do is have a counter story, no matter how implausible, and you can get people who want to believe it to believe it.
I'm not a big conspiracy theorist. Obviously someone isn't being truthful. That said, given the media attention, Ole Miss woulda been better off if they could find some sacrificial lamb. The fact that they didn't tells me there is more to he story that we don't know...
You expect unidentified players to take to the Internet to identify themselves when no one has even been accused? Makes sense. If the athletic department had denied it immediately y'all would be bitching that they didn't even investigate. So the school investigated, then reported, which was appropriate. I realize y'all think it is impossible that the initial article may have been inaccurate, but that's too bad. As I said, I don't know the truth; neither do you.
Turns out, the Matthew Shepard story is a total complete lie.....
Homosexual privilege activists have made Matthew Shepard a Saint and Martyr because he was "murdered by homophobes". Turns out, Shepard was murdered because a drug deal went bad....and one of his murderers was his homosexual lover.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/14/The-Matthew-Shepard-Story-is-a-Lie
I realize the unibrowed Neanderthals that attend Ole Miss didn't mock this play because of being informed about this latest revelation, but the whole play is a lie and I don't think the players should be punished.
Homosexual privilege activists have made Matthew Shepard a Saint and Martyr because he was "murdered by homophobes". Turns out, Shepard was murdered because a drug deal went bad....and one of his murderers was his homosexual lover.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/14/The-Matthew-Shepard-Story-is-a-Lie
I realize the unibrowed Neanderthals that attend Ole Miss didn't mock this play because of being informed about this latest revelation, but the whole play is a lie and I don't think the players should be punished.
Quit being a moron. You KNOW that if it weren't true, the players would have been Tweeting that it didn't happen.
LOL, some people will believe anything that fits into their worldview. Never mind the results of the police investigation, all of the witness statements and confessions from the killers. Let's just believe some guy who wrote a book years later because a known and admitted liar like Breitbart says so.
"..the DM has a reputation for blowing things out of proportion to make national headlines." What? I think you're giving a bunch of 20 year olds too much credit. As a former staffer of the DM, I know you are giving them too much credit.
Yep, blame the messenger....btw, Breitbart is dead
How can he still be telling lies? No, it's just that the Homosexual Privileges Lobby is on a campaign of intimidation and they're willing to lie about one of their Sainted Martyrs in order to advance their agenda.
How can he still be telling lies? No, it's just that the Homosexual Privileges Lobby is on a campaign of intimidation and they're willing to lie about one of their Sainted Martyrs in order to advance their agenda.
Somehow disproving the case makes the actions excusable. (you know an issue is hot-button when MSU fans are excusing Ole Miss players for public displays of staggering assholery)
Maybe the player were just suggesting in voice volumes not-appropriate-for-theater-settings that they would appreciate more background about the case.
Player 1: "ARE THERE ANY OTHER OPINIONS ABOUT THIS CASE NOT EXPRESSED IN THIS PLAY"
Player 2:" YES, I HAVE TO HEAR FROM AS MANY SIDES OF THIS AS POSSIBLE TO FORM AN EDUCATED OPINION ON THIS"
Player 3: "CERTAINLY ANYTHING LESS WOULD BE SELLING OURSELVES SHORT IN SUCH AN ESTEEMED ACADEMIC SETTING"
All players: "TRUUUUUUUUUUUUTH!"
Actor: "Are you booing, or saying 'truth?'"
And conveniently, in this day and age when probably 75% of college students carry a video camera hooked up to the internet with them at all times, there is somehow no video of the incident, YOU CAN'T PROVE THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!!
Maybe the player were just suggesting in voice volumes not-appropriate-for-theater-settings that they would appreciate more background about the case.
Player 1: "ARE THERE ANY OTHER OPINIONS ABOUT THIS CASE NOT EXPRESSED IN THIS PLAY"
Player 2:" YES, I HAVE TO HEAR FROM AS MANY SIDES OF THIS AS POSSIBLE TO FORM AN EDUCATED OPINION ON THIS"
Player 3: "CERTAINLY ANYTHING LESS WOULD BE SELLING OURSELVES SHORT IN SUCH AN ESTEEMED ACADEMIC SETTING"
All players: "TRUUUUUUUUUUUUTH!"
Actor: "Are you booing, or saying 'truth?'"
And conveniently, in this day and age when probably 75% of college students carry a video camera hooked up to the internet with them at all times, there is somehow no video of the incident, YOU CAN'T PROVE THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!!
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I chuckled.
Seriously, I don't know what is more sad. 18 yr old homophobes heckling at a play, or adult homophobes desperately trying to justify their actions with arguments that are both factually incorrect AND irrelevant.
Bracky Brett would have been requesting security video footage and satellite imagery to figure it out if we had that happen.