Andy Katz on Sidney
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They're waiting for the same thing they've always been waiting for; the bank statements for the family.
The Katz article lists that bank statements for the "LA Dream Team" non-profit were provided, but not the bank records for the family.
Again, it goes back to - if there's nothing to hide, give them the bank records. Plain and simple. Unfortunately, Jackson wants to make this about a bigger agenda that he has against the NCAA. As a result, Sidney will never play college basketball.
The Katz article lists that bank statements for the "LA Dream Team" non-profit were provided, but not the bank records for the family.
Again, it goes back to - if there's nothing to hide, give them the bank records. Plain and simple. Unfortunately, Jackson wants to make this about a bigger agenda that he has against the NCAA. As a result, Sidney will never play college basketball.
I would think that if the Sidney's wanted their son to play college basketball, they would tell Jackson to turn over the documents. They aren't going to sit back and watch Jackson screw up their kid's eligibility because Jackson has some agenda against the NCAA. If there is nothing to hide, they would tell Jackson to turn it over. You don't mess with the NCAA. They have 100 times more power than they should have, but the fact is that they do have that power.
We are talking about someone asking the most personal or personal information from you when you haven't even been told there is something wrong. Just being told "we want to see it all for no specific reason" is not sufficient reason in my eyes to provide anything. They wanted to see how they were able to afford the housing and such in LA......well.....they got that evidence of all sources of income. What will a bank statement show? All deposits of $10,000 or more are reported to the Feds. Why doesn't the NCAA just go ask the Feds for copies of all deposits over $10,000 made by this family? (I actually know why they can't/won't do that)
and a chance to get drafted in the NBA the following year based on playing college basketball, I wouldn't have a problem providing bank statements in order for my kid to get this opportunity.
Im trying to think of something I wouldn't give the NCAA in order for my kid to get certified.
Im trying to think of something I wouldn't give the NCAA in order for my kid to get certified.
Chesusdog said:
That's the way the NCAA works. You have to prove to them that you are eligible. They don't have to prove anything. If they think your transcript or your classes are bogus, it's on you to prove they aren't. If they think your amateur status has been jeopardized, it's on you to prove that it hasn't been.
they are a private organization. They can pretty much operate however they want to.
They can demand documents just like any other private entity. And if you don't give them to them, they can pretty much do what they want. There is no right to play college basketball. That's why Jackson has to play the race card b/c the only thing that can make this illegal is if the eligibility ruling is based on race.
They can demand documents just like any other private entity. And if you don't give them to them, they can pretty much do what they want. There is no right to play college basketball. That's why Jackson has to play the race card b/c the only thing that can make this illegal is if the eligibility ruling is based on race.
The answer to that, for most people, would be yes. It's not like the NCAA is going to make anything you give them available to the public.
And I think the key phrase in your question is "if you were innocent", and I think that is likely the root of the problem in this case. If they have taken money, then they would know that turning over the bank records would end Sidney's chance of playing, so if they have taken money, they know their only chance is to do everything they can without turning over the bank records.
Given the background on the case, I'd guess that this isn't some stand against injustice that the Sidney's and Jackson are trying to make. It's most likely just an attempt at diversion.
youngster said:
Again, it's a private organization. That's how these things work. I can't just walk into an employer's office and tell them that I had 3 degrees in various backgrounds. They would want to see transcripts to prove it. They wouldn't just take my word for it.
That's the same way the NCAA works. They don't let you play unless you prove to them that 1) you passed all the needed classes legitimately, and 2) you prove you are an amateur if the question is raised.
You aren't "cleared until proven uncleared". You are "uncleared until proven cleared", and that's the way the NCAA has to operate. Otherwise, a player in Powe's position would just not turn in a transcript, and they'd be forced to clear him due to lack of evidence to prove otherwise.
See Reggie Bush and USC. If rent was paid, then the cash was funnled through the Sidneys. USC and UCLA were bankrolling the Sidney family, so Renardo would sign with them. That's how USC operates.. Paging Tim Floyd...
If you have to be cleared to play any college level, I would think maybe the NCAA would be considered a monopoly. It is pretty much required to play college football to get into the NFL. </p>
TBonewannabe said:
The NCAA governs 1A, 1AA, D-2, and D-3. They do not govern the NAIA schools though, so it's not technically a monopoly. You'll sometimes see guys play NAIA ball if they can't get through the NCAA. NAIA ends up being the equivalent of D-2 roughly in terms of talent of the teams.
fishwater99 said:
I really doubt the money was coming from UCLA and USC. It was more likely coming from an agent.
a copy of your house key? Would you give them those kinds of things to get your kid into college too? There should be some form of privacy here.
Sutterkane woya said:
I don't see how a daughter's measurements would have anything to do with amateur status. I do, however, see how bank records could have a whole lot to do with someone's amateur status.