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Andy Katz says firing Stansbury...

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Coach34

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shouldnt be based on recruits...

The current NLI rules say a player must file a formal appeal to an NLI committee, stating his reasons to void a signed NLI. Without such a waiver, penalties for breaking the NLI are harsh. The initial penalty for eligible players who break an NLI is sitting out two years and losing two seasons of eligibility. If the school where the player signs gives a qualified release agreement (meaning the school approves his departure) then the player's penalty is automatically reduced to one lost season of eligibility

http://assets.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/katz_andy/1542395.html</p>
 
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shouldnt be based on recruits...

The current NLI rules say a player must file a formal appeal to an NLI committee, stating his reasons to void a signed NLI. Without such a waiver, penalties for breaking the NLI are harsh. The initial penalty for eligible players who break an NLI is sitting out two years and losing two seasons of eligibility. If the school where the player signs gives a qualified release agreement (meaning the school approves his departure) then the player's penalty is automatically reduced to one lost season of eligibility

http://assets.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/katz_andy/1542395.html</p>
 
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The type of guys we have coming in will play next year, they won't want to redshirt somewhere else. There went that excuse for keeping Stans.
 
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I hope the new guys get tons of playing time. I just want to watch basketball without Dee, Kodi, Ravern, and Renardo.
 
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Tired of the suspensions, technicals, fighting, academics, lack of effort, etc. I've gotten to where I don't care anymore. Three suspensions by Renardo this year. Two suspensions by Ravern this year. Two suspensions by Dee this year. I'm ready for a full house-cleaning, and I have no problem with that including Rick Stansbury and a significant roster cleansing.
 
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Everybody has an opinion. For all of the crap Benock takes, he managed to make it four years without getting suspended (quite an accomplishment on this team). We've had lots of other basketball players throughout the years who have also done the same. I'm sick and tired of all the **** going on with this team. Stansbury has lost control. Has there ever been a college football, baseball, or basketball team where 80% of your starters have served suspensions? Imagine a football team where 18 of 22 starters (80%) had served suspensions and 13 of 22 (60%) of starters had served multiple suspensions in the same year. Maybe my measures are too drastic, but I'm ready to blow it up and start over. I don't care anymore. This is the feeling I had under Croom and during Jackie's last years.
 
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I didn't give two craps about Crooms' last Egg Bowl. I actually forgot the damn game was on, "watched" all of 10 minutes, then ended up at the movies by halftime.

I'm the same way about basketball this year. The sooner it's over, the better.
 
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DogStuckAtUM said:
Fan apathy is one of the worst things that can happen to a program
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Absolutely correct. It will be reflected in donations, season ticket sales, merchandise sales, etc. I'm at that point with this basketball team. I would rather lose the rest of the games playing walk-ons than watching some of these guys.
 
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First, how Fing old is that article?

Yes everyone here by now should understand that it is tough to appeal and get out of an NLI. And everyone here should by now know that breaking the NLI means harsh penalties that include loss of eligibility.

But that is only one route that a player could go. The player could just appeal to the school directly, which is what has happened so often the last few years. And the school will have a total shitstorm of negative media if they refuse to release the player, just like DePaul had last summer when they refused to release a player.
And that would be justified. Seriously, what sort of demonic program would actually force a recruit to play for them even if the recruit didnt want to? That is a perfect stormed disaster with a guaranteed bad attitude walking thru the doors on the first day. Even if the new coach is a great guy and all, maybe his system doesnt fit the player? If a talented half court minimal posessions coach comes in, maybe the players who signed up for the uptempo coach that got canned wont fit the system. And if a 7' 300lb plodder was signed to come play for a half court offense coach but they the new coach tries to get 85 posessions in a game, then maybe they arent a good fit.
Why make a player enter into a situation they didnt commit to?

The national media will be, and should be, over any situation where an evil big program is throwing its power around and refusing to let the powerless player out. The system is so frigging tilted and imbalanced that using the media is the best and only way to try and force a school into doing the right thing.

Appealing the NLI shouldnt ever even come into play.
 
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fire Rick and we we have to let the signees go, if they so choose. Keep Rick and roll the dice that this is the class that turns it around.

These are our options.
 
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<font><font class="scopy">
"Andre Iguodala signed with Arkansas, but once Nolan
Richardson was fired, asked out of his letter. He won an appeal and
played as a freshman for Arizona this past season."</font></font>
 
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I am not against piling on, so i will point out that there is no chance it is 9 months old.
The rules he talks about in that article arent even up to date. You brought old **** to the table and it isnt even applicable anymore.
Last, out of all that i typed, all you have to comment on is an 'uhhhhh' and incorrect response to the least important part of my post?

This entire thread misses the very real point that even though a school doesnt have to let a recruit out of their LOI, it is beyond dumb for them to force the player to stay. Sure, they can stall and try to talk the guy into staying committed, but beyond that, its fire and the school will get burned. They will be lit up in the press and it will be fair game for others to use in recruiting.

Just not sure what point you felt this whole thing was going to make.
 
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Hilarious. Outstanding work there, coach, with the nearly decade-old article, and then your misrepresentation of the decade-old article. Your quest to make every thread about Stansbury being fired is strangely akin to a monkey throwing his poo...but the fact remains, when Andy Katz speaks, it's gospel....wait..
 
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Coach34

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saw the date- didnt see a year on it and just skimmed the article

definitely a bad thread here for me

One bad thread by me still doesnt take away from Stands being a ****** coach
 
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Was the design of the website not enough of a hint? Oh that's right, you don't know much about designing websites...
 
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he thinks you would make a fine addition to the Clarion Ledger sports staff.

Deceiving headline- check
half-*** attempt to cite support for your position- check
failure to notice slight details such as the article cited being years out of date- check
getting defensive when called out on a complete train wreck- double check

Great job
 
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