Another coward who never had the balls to be a cop.

mdlUK.1

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Well that there is part of the problem. Funny the one guy claimed the OP was a liberal, yet what a lot of police work entails is collecting money for the.....government. Some laws are in place just be able to place fines. That's where some of you are sheep thinking just bc it's a law it's right. Plus, police aren't lawyers, it's not their jib to interpret laws..and many of them instead of preventing or stopping crime..look to find reasons to cite people.

If you want a fix to some police, get rid of their unions. They'll have to think a little harder before they try to act like a cowboy when if they have to worry more about more then paid leaves.
I don't believe I said anywhere that the police were supposed to interpret the law, did I? Yes, if it's the law, it is right. If you disagree, get the law changed!
 

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I don't believe I said anywhere that the police were supposed to interpret the law, did I? Yes, if it's the law, it is right. If you disagree, get the law changed!

Good post Mdl. I agree with that last sentence. Usually takes a country wide majority to get stuff changed, but I see police reform will be the next big thing. Next will be AI robot sex marriage.
 

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I work with LEO's every day. The biggest gripe about body cams is that they are expected to be attached to their chest. Well, when they have to draw their weapon and extend it guess what it blocks?

I was also involved in a very ugly rally/demonstration where I was with KSP watching the crowd. I asked a KSP Lieutenant how do you see a gun in that mass? His response is you probably won't see the gun. You look for the flash and try to react before the second shot
 

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My personal rule. Avoid ANY interactions with the police if I can.

I've said this before on here, 93. When dealing with the police, you will have what I call the Big 3 that can happen.

Lose your life
Lose your freedom
Lose your money

The less I am around cops, the better off my chances with the Big 3.

4 Lose 15 minutes of your time.

I've been stopped my share of times. I venture to say that 75% of those times I got off with a verbal warning. I stay close to the speed limit, stop at all stop signs and don't try to beat red lights. I keep my car insured and my registration current. I do not drink or smoke pot and drive. If stopped I call guys half my age "Sir." I remain in my car and put both my hands on the steering wheel. I carry nothing in my car that I need to try to stash out of sight. If it is dark I turn on the interior lights. I look them in the eye and politely answer any questions. Has worked very well for me.The tickets I did get, I was going to get no matter what (quotas, probably).
 
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4 Lose 15 minutes of your time.

I've been stopped my share of times. I venture to say that 75% of those times I got off with a verbal warning. I stay close to the speed limit, stop at all stop signs and don't try to beat red lights. I keep my car insured and my registration current. I do not drink or smoke pot and drive. If stopped I call guys half my age "Sir." I remain in my car and put both my hands on the steering wheel. I carry nothing in my car that I need to try to stash out of sight. If it is dark I turn on the interior lights. I look them in the eye and politely answer any questions. Has worked very well for me.The tickets I did get, I was going to get no matter what (quotas, probably).
What a wuss. Fight the power, old man.
 

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Next will be AI robot sex marriage.

"I figured I should just do it when the timing is right and realise my dream. If I realise my dream, I will have no regrets in life."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/meet-mark-...-looks-eerily-like-scarlett-johansson-1552710
 

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At one point, the report stated, he tried to raise his body.

“If you do that again, we are shooting you,” an officer said, according to the report. “Do you understand?”


Shaver responded: “No, please don’t shoot me.”

The report stated that “multiple voices” began to say “don’t” as “Shaver’s hand moved back toward the front of his body.”

I'm not a statistician, but I've listened to cops 100% of the time and haven't been shot 100% of the time. I think there's a pattern..
Yeah, that was weird. Why was the dude moving his hand? What was he reaching for? If I have guns pointed at me, and someone is saying don't move, I have to think I'm not moving. Maybe he was freaking out, understandable if so. Sad situation all around. I don't assume all cops are ********, so I sympathize with both sides here. If a guy is moving his hand toward something....it's not like you have the luxury of time, "hmm, that's interesting, I wonder if he's going for a gun there. I'll just sit tight and watch for a second or two and see how this develops."
 

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Yeah, that was weird. Why was the dude moving his hand? What was he reaching for? If I have guns pointed at me, and someone is saying don't move, I have to think I'm not moving. Maybe he was freaking out, understandable if so. Sad situation all around. I don't assume all cops are ********, so I sympathize with both sides here. If a guy is moving his hand toward something....it's not like you have the luxury of time, "hmm, that's interesting, I wonder if he's going for a gun there. I'll just sit tight and watch for a second or two and see how this develops."

Sounds like you're a shoot first ask questions later kind of guy. I would have to see a gun before I even began to think about shooting someone. As a trained professional he should easily be able to pull the trigger on a gun already aimed within a second or two.

He was drunk and probably didn't know he what he was doing. I haven't seen the body cam from the cop but his colleagues felt he didn't have cause to shoot and that's good enough for me.
 

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Funny the one guy claimed the OP was a liberal, yet what a lot of police work entails is collecting money for the.....government. Some laws are in place just be able to place fines.

So the OP isn't a liberal . . . not even a bleeding heart liberal . . . simply because of police revenues? Amazing. How did you piece that together so liberally?
 

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Don't even get me started on the civil forfeiture. Which is legalized burglary.
Policing for profit is a very real thing that troubles me just as much. Some municipalities are converting everything from parking tickets to unpaid library fees into arrest warrants so they can collect more in court costs and fines. When the Department of Justice looked into the town of Ferguson, they found a town of ~21,000 holding 16,000 arrest warrants, many for tall grass, parking violations, etc. The city police department accounted for nearly 20% of the city's revenue.

I support and respect what honest cops do but I consider any contact with them like petting a dog I don't know.
 

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Policing for profit is a very real thing that troubles me just as much. Some municipalities are converting everything from parking tickets to unpaid library fees into arrest warrants so they can collect more in court costs and fines. When the Department of Justice looked into the town of Ferguson, they found a town of ~21,000 holding 16,000 arrest warrants, many for tall grass, parking violations, etc. The city police department accounted for nearly 20% of the city's revenue.

I support and respect what honest cops do but I consider any contact with them like petting a dog I don't know.

Cheers to that.
 
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They killed 1,207 citizens in 2015. One could say, that cops are more of a danger than terrorists. The stats don't lie.

Actually, they do in the way you present it. If 1,207 INNOCENT people were killed, then yes, your point has validity. However, police officers are authorized to use lethal force. I would need to know how many times they used lethal force when someone was threatening them in, or threatening others.

I don't disagree that there are some bad cops out there, and I don't disagree that there are some cops that overstep their bounds and use force when unnecessary. But I don't buy any suggestion that there is any systematic abuse of power by police. There are over 750,000 law enforcement personnel in the US.
 
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It is becoming a more violent world and being a cop on the street today probably needs more training then just 5 months. Maybe they do in OJT with a ride along or something but who knows.

OJT ride-alongs were cut after the program was found to be corrupt. There was a documentary about it a while back:



Don't even get me started on the civil forfeiture. Which is legalized burglary.

Interesting case about civil forfeiture of clean assets in SCOTUS last week. The court found that the 6th Amendment protected untainted money from seizure if it would be used to hire counsel. Kagan, of all people, had a dissent that says that civil forfeiture pre-conviction is problematic generally and might suggest that she would overturn the doctrine announced in the Monsanto case. Good stuff if you're into 6th Amendment or forfeiture law. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-419_nmip.pdf
 
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Actually, they do in the way you present it. If 1,207 INNOCENT people were killed, then yes, your point has validity. However, police officers are authorized to use lethal force. I would need to know how many times they used lethal force when someone was threatening them in, or threatening others.

I don't disagree that there are some bad cops out there, and I don't disagree that there are some cops that overstep their bounds and use force when unnecessary. But I don't buy any suggestion that there is any systematic abuse of power by police. There are over 750,000 law enforcement personnel in the US.

Of course not all were innocent. However, now that we are starting to see that cops lie and cover up evidence only to be outed by video footage, I am not sure lethal force was necessary with all 1,207. Take the cops word for it? Nope. sorry. The days of the perception of "Officer Friendly" are over for me.
 

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Interesting case about civil forfeiture of clean assets in SCOTUS last week. The court found that the 6th Amendment protected untainted money from seizure if it would be used to hire counsel. Kagan, of all people, had a dissent that says that civil forfeiture pre-conviction is problematic generally and might suggest that she would overturn the doctrine announced in the Monsanto case. Good stuff if you're into 6th Amendment or forfeiture law. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-419_nmip.pdf

Yep. I don't think anyone is opposed for cops taking property if they are convicted of the crime. But to take the money and no charges?? That is ********.