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brianpoe

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He had a child..so why wouldnt he get a degree and possibly better his position. He also left because of other players coming in. And we all know Cal will play talent over experience.



Oh yeah... he had a child.

The other reason.....?

Liggins was never going to the league based upon his offense.

He was already named SEC Defensive Player of the Year and to the Lefty Driesell Defensive All-America Team.

Hi stock was at an apex.

Do you knwo where his baby and the mother lived? I do.

So yes he had to go.

Cal definitley wanted Liggins to stay, we only had 2 guards that season with Miller backing up the 2, 3, and 4.

His defense would have been a tremendous help.


So no, Cal didnt push him out, there was no one coming in to take his spot.

Once again you fail.



 

CHAPDAV3

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Once again. Im going off Bams interview and what other players like Ulis has said in the past. You guys get on here and create your own. Liggins had a child. Why wouldn't our program convince him to stay. Get a degree. And if anything council the kid on his draft status honestly. Liggins had to struggle. Not saying Cal said leave. I can't say that was the conversation. But I am asking. Did Cal try to convince him to stay? Get a degree? Have housing, insurance and stability for him and his child? Liggins has struggled. Not only bouncing around. But with personal issues also. Maybe another year could of made it easier. Instead this culture created by Cal has pushed guys out to early.
 

brianpoe

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Once again. Im going off Bams interview and what other players like Ulis has said in the past. You guys get on here and create your own. Liggins had a child. Why wouldn't our program convince him to stay. Get a degree. And if anything council the kid on his draft status honestly. Liggins had to struggle. Not saying Cal said leave. I can't say that was the conversation. But I am asking. Did Cal try to convince him to stay? Get a degree? Have housing, insurance and stability for him and his child? Liggins has struggled. Not only bouncing around. But with personal issues also. Maybe another year could of made it easier. Instead this culture created by Cal has pushed guys out to early.


Do you know the players have a scholarship for life?

He can come back and finish his last year whenever he wants to.... again I cannot believe what little information you know.

Amazing.
 
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CHAPDAV3

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Oh yeah... he had a child.

The other reason.....?

Liggins was never going to the league based upon his offense.

He was already named SEC Defensive Player of the Year and to the Lefty Driesell Defensive All-America Team.

Hi stock was at an apex.

Do you knwo where his baby and the mother lived? I do.

So yes he had to go.

Cal definitley wanted Liggins to stay, we only had 2 guards that season with Miller backing up the 2, 3, and 4.

His defense would have been a tremendous help.


So no, Cal didnt push him out, there was no one coming in to take his spot.

Once again you fail.






His stock was high for a late 2nd rnd pick. Lol.so. he could of only gone up. Really have some confidence in the kid. He left because of who and what we're coming in. Don't kid yourself. Liggins could've def raised his stock. Hell the path he took. Would of been no different, if not better had he stayed.
 

CHAPDAV3

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Do you know the players have a scholarship for life?

He can come back and finish his last year whenever he wants to.... again I cannot believe what little information you know.

Amazing.




Really? Thats pretty basic at most big universities. Not really informative. Has he? Will he ever? Probably not. Most don't . But if he had stayed. He probably would have. Maybe Cal should of thought of that when councling the youngman.
 

brianpoe

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His stock was high for a late 2nd rnd pick. Lol.so. he could of only gone up. Really have some confidence in the kid. He left because of who and what we're coming in. Don't kid yourself. Liggins could've def raised his stock. Hell the path he took. Would of been no different, if not better had he stayed.


No his stock was not going to go up.

Again if you had any knowledge of UK basketball you would know he was drafted based upon defense. He acquired every defensive award except DPOY.

He would be behind Lamb, MKG and Miller the next season, so no he would not have raised his value any.

Common sense man, stop looking stupid. We know what we are taking about.

You can have all the opinons you want but stop making things up.
 
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Big John Stud

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Can you tell us what it was and then provide those posts you accused him of?

Many people that defend Cal also defended Tubby, you know this.
I can tell you dumb posters who get suckered into trashing our former coaches and players by trolls likely did it back in the day too. Funny how they can take shots at others but dont you dare take a shot back at them.
 

brianpoe

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Really? Thats pretty basic at most big universities. Not really informative. Has he? Will he ever? Probably not. Most don't . But if he had stayed. He probably would have. Maybe Cal should of thought of that when councling the youngman.


Schools just started copying us in 2014 with a fund strictly for athletes to have a lifetime scholarship.

Are you saying that no UK players have returned to finished their degrees at UK?

Why would you say Liggins wont? What facts do you have to back up such a POS insinuation?

Im almost over the shock of how dumb you really are...
 
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brianpoe

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I can tell you dumb posters who get suckered into trashing our former coaches and players by trolls likely did it back in the day too. Funny how they can take shots at others but dont you dare take a shot back at them.


So in other words you were just lumping @WCSPlayedWRInHS into the fellowship of the miserables back in the day based upon that one comment?

Pretty circumstantial Soze...
 

brianpoe

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Dont take a shot at any of our players and coaches if you dont want to be lumped in.


That's stupid.

I bash and blame Cal for 2010, 2014, and 2015.

I hate the offense and inbounds, i complain about our stall ball tactics at the end of the game and several other items.

I think PJ was lazy as hell this past season several times and complained about SGA's PG abilities. I was flabbergasted by how awful Richards hands were and why Knox's defense resembled a bull fighter and his cape...

Yet I liked Tubby. Still know Tubby and Donna.


So... you going to lump me in too?



I actually agree with many of your posts more than the rest but this isnt one of them.
 

WCSPlayedWRInHS

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Dont take a shot at any of our players and coaches if you dont want to be lumped in.
Lump me in wherever you like, it has zero impact on me. I knew bringing Tubby up that you’d be here soon, though. Any negative opinion about Tubby is like the bat signal for you, you come flying in ready to defend him at all costs. [roll]

and for the record no I wasn’t on here bashing Tubby back in the day. I hoped until the bitter end that he would turn things around, but he clearly was mailing it in. If he had any fire left, zero chance he leaves the Mecca of college hoops to go coach basketball in minnefreakinsota.
 

Big John Stud

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Lump me in wherever you like, it has zero impact on me. I knew bringing Tubby up that you’d be here soon, though. Any negative opinion about Tubby is like the bat signal for you, you come flying in ready to defend him at all costs. [roll]

and for the record no I wasn’t on here bashing Tubby back in the day. I hoped until the bitter end that he would turn things around, but he clearly was mailing it in. If he had any fire left, zero chance he leaves the Mecca of college hoops to go coach basketball in minnefreakinsota.
I knew you'd be dumb enough to take the trolls bait. Congratulations simple one.
 

Big John Stud

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That's stupid.

I bash and blame Cal for 2010, 2014, and 2015.

I hate the offense and inbounds, i complain about our stall ball tactics at the end of the game and several other items.

I think PJ was lazy as hell this past season several times and complained about SGA's PG abilities. I was flabbergasted by how awful Richards hands were and why Knox's defense resembled a bull fighter and his cape...

Yet I liked Tubby. Still know Tubby and Donna.


So... you going to lump me in too?



I actually agree with many of your posts more than the rest but this isnt one of them.
If the shoe fits. Why bash anyone who hasn't done something egregious? Are you not capable of constructive criticism?
 

seccats04

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Ok, i just provided facts to back it up.

Can you provide ONE fact, link, or source to back up ANY of the crap you have been spewing?

If you dont know why Tyler left then you simply dont know things, and thats ok but dont start making ish up.


You will see me have a differing opinion with a few posters in a couple of threads.

However, the difference between you and @seccats04 , @CHAMPCAT11 , @ZaytovenCat , @Ripcord65 is that they actually know these events that you simply do not. So we can debate the actual issue which is more philosophy and system based.

They have my respect because it truly is a differing opinion.

You are trying to prove your opinion as factual by making crap up that EVERYONE here knows is not true.


Get caught up on the truth and come back with your opinions for a real debate.
Thank you Brian. You are a very knowledgeable and respectful poster and even though our philosophies are different you still treat everyone with respect. I am glad that not everyone on here thinks the same or else we would have nothing to talk about.
 
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Chuckinden

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yet another elite all star game with multiple top UK commits. I am sick of it. I have OAD fatigue!!! Why can’t we be more like IU and UL and not have to worry about top players coming to respective programs? Being a top team annually is truly wearing me down.

I missed the part where we were a "top team" this year.
 

Big John Stud

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...so is this you admitting you have nothing intelligent left to say?
This is me laughing you for taking the bait like a clown. It's not like you would understand intelligence anyway raftard, you just repeat nonsense you read on message boards and aren't capable of critical thinking.
 

JC CATS

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Billy in the huddle, even slightly buzzed, was a master at X’s and O’s.

“Here we go. You throw it in to Jodie. Then you four run down to the end and stand near the base line just outside the paint. When Jodie shoots then crash the boards for any missed shots and get it back to him for another look. Ready, team!!!
This is not the U Of Jodie Meeks ;)
 

brianpoe

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If the shoe fits. Why bash anyone who hasn't done something egregious? Are you not capable of constructive criticism?


Bashing is simply criticizing a bit overboard, Cal doesnt need my constructive criticism, at the end of the day I accept the fact that he knows more than me.

And according to @WCSPlayedWRInHS he was a Tubby supporter so you did misjudge the guy.
 

WCSPlayedWRInHS

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This is me laughing you for taking the bait like a clown. It's not like you would understand intelligence anyway raftard, you just repeat nonsense you read on message boards and aren't capable of critical thinking.
lmao my comment about you being Tubbys white knight clearly struck a nerve. Big mad or little mad? I’m gonna say you’re big mad.
 

Big John Stud

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lmao my comment about you being Tubbys white knight clearly struck a nerve. Big mad or little mad? I’m gonna say you’re big mad.
Stop being a lame cliche with your corny phrases that you heard from others and stole. Message board guy, you gonna call me a snowflake next?