Another to early poll.

[bucsrule8872]

“Their portal additions are weak” yet this board claims that Thiero and Big Z are big losses when Ewin and Pringle had comparable/better stats than both respectively last year

I know these rankings are subjective, but On3 has Ivisic ranked 51, Ewin at 75, and Pringle at 143 in the portal.

247 has Ivisic ranked 44, Ewin at 108, and Pringle at 130.

And Thiero would probably be ranked higher than Ivisic if he was in the portal.

And you didn’t even mention losing Aidoo.

Overall, I don’t think adding Ewin and Pringle is comparable to losing Thiero, Ivisic, and Aidoo.

Maybe you add another guy that makes a difference, but right now I think your current frontcourt is a downgrade.

At least on paper. But you know how that goes. Maybe those guys fit better in Cal’s system than the guys you lost.

Now the backcourt looks pretty good, especially if Knox returns.

Should be strong, if Wagner and Acuff can play effectively together.

 

[Skyguyb27]

Ark @#5 thus the OP's interest in showing us.
Still a way to go before they get it.

All that chicken money and still can’t top UK in the polls.

 

[dmacforheisman]

I know these rankings are subjective, but On3 has Ivisic ranked 51, Ewin at 75, and Pringle at 143 in the portal.

247 has Ivisic ranked 44, Ewin at 108, and Pringle at 130.

And Thiero would probably be ranked higher than Ivisic if he was in the portal.

And you didn’t even mention losing Aidoo.

Overall, I don’t think adding Ewin and Pringle is comparable to losing Thiero, Ivisic, and Aidoo.

Maybe you add another guy that makes a difference, but right now I think your current frontcourt is a downgrade.

At least on paper. But you know how that goes. Maybe those guys fit better in Cal’s system than the guys you lost.

Now the backcourt looks pretty good, especially if Knox returns.

Should be strong, if Wagner and Acuff can play effectively together.

Thiero was very good but Arkansas made the Sweet 16 run without him after Brazile filled in fine. The portal rankings are subjective for sure, but the advanced metrics kinda go against that. To your point though, different systems and schedules so not an exact science.

True Shooting Percentage

Ewin: 61.1%
Pringle: 60.5%
Ivisic: 59.9%
Aidoo: 58.5%

Free Throw Attempt Rate

Pringle: .822
Aidoo: .481
Ewin: .414
Ivisic: .261

Total Rebound Percentage:

Ewin: 16.7%
Pringle: 15.5%
Aidoo: 15.0%
Ivisic: 12.8%

Assist Percentage:

Ewin: 15.5%
Pringle: 10.3%
Aidoo: 8.2%
Ivisic: 8.1%

 

[bowfreak_rivals210117]

The difference for Arky last year when they finally started clicking was that Davis was being Davis.

 

[bucsrule8872]

The difference for Arky last year when they finally started clicking was that Davis was being Davis.

That and the Boogie Fland injury was a blessing in disguise.

 

[hootervillearnolds]

I love this poll. A former IU coach, followed by three teams from our region, followed by a former UK coach. College basketball is right back where it belongs in Indiana and Kentucky.

 

[U Go UK_rivals23138]

Too

 

[Jamal Mercer]

Not really in some polls they have AR in front of KY this one has KY higher.

I've also seen a couple where Arkansas is not in the top 15. Theyll be ok but they aren't top 5.

 

[Tampa_cat54_rivals112262]

Why are you, an Arkansas fan, showing up on a Kentucky board to tell us how our program isn’t great? Your school has one title and your cute little chart that shows UCLA and Kentucky doesn’t have the pigpen anywhere in it. Why don’t the Arkansas fans go back to the Arkansas board if they aren’t here to be respectful to the program this forum supports? I don’t generally have a problem with your posts, but you’re not in a position to tell Kentucky fans where Kentucky is in the pantheon of college basketball when your last championship came before Mark Pope ever checked into a Kentucky game. Win something, then start talking.

Kentucky #1 program in college basketball
Arkansas - #3 program all-time — in the SEC

Not even sure they are 3rd all time in the SEC.

This year they finished 10th in the league and were one loss away from the NIT, and you'd think they made the Final Four with how much confidence they have about it.

Since 1995 they have only made it past the first weekend of the NCAA tournament 5 times in 30 years [laughing]

They went a stretch of 16 years in that span where they only even made the NCAA tournament 3 times out of 16 years.

Only 2 Elite Eights since 1995.

Have only been seeded above a 4 seed in the NCAA tournament ONCE since 1999.

Haven't won an SEC Regular Season championship since 1994!!

I mean these are embarrassing, embarrassing stats from a program who walks around like they are a top-tier program.

@HogFan2012 really should avoid this subject. He's trying to compare Tyson Chicken Nuggets to a Filet Mignon and it's embarrassing.

 

[Slowwalker]

Not even sure they are 3rd all time in the SEC.

This year they finished 10th in the league and were one loss away from the NIT, and you'd think they made the Final Four with how much confidence they have about it.

Since 1995 they have only made it past the first weekend of the NCAA tournament 5 times in 30 years [laughing]

They went a stretch of 16 years in that span where they only even made the NCAA tournament 3 times out of 16 years.

Only 2 Elite Eights since 1995.

Have only been seeded above a 4 seed in the NCAA tournament ONCE since 1999.

Haven't won an Conference Regular Season championship since 1994!!

I mean these are embarrassing, embarrassing stats from a program who walks around like they are a top-tier program.

@HogFan2012 really should avoid this subject. He's trying to compare Tyson Chicken Nuggets to a Filet Mignon and it's embarrassing.

He is talking about the entire Arky athletic program and is including all sports in response to the hog fan using the entire athletic program to compare the two universities since UK isn’t in the top 50 and that is one metric he can brag on.

 

[dmacforheisman]

Not even sure they are 3rd all time in the SEC.

This year they finished 10th in the league and were one loss away from the NIT, and you'd think they made the Final Four with how much confidence they have about it.

Since 1995 they have only made it past the first weekend of the NCAA tournament 5 times in 30 years [laughing]

They went a stretch of 16 years in that span where they only even made the NCAA tournament 3 times out of 16 years.

Only 2 Elite Eights since 1995.

Have only been seeded above a 4 seed in the NCAA tournament ONCE since 1999.

Haven't won an SEC Regular Season championship since 1994!!

I mean these are embarrassing, embarrassing stats from a program who walks around like they are a top-tier program.

@HogFan2012 really should avoid this subject. He's trying to compare Tyson Chicken Nuggets to a Filet Mignon and it's embarrassing.

If you don't cherry pick timeframes then Arkansas is pretty easily 3rd all-time in the SEC, it used to be a pretty close race for 2nd with Florida but their title this past season definitely moves them ahead. Arkansas is still 2nd in the conference in all-time winning percentage and final fours.

 

[Jamal Mercer]

I like this one…..

Not sure the OP, DMac, and Hammy will

 

[HamuelLJackson]

I like this one…..

Not sure the OP, DMac, and Hammy will

If "Hammy" is me, i couldn't care less about a Derby Week way too early poll.

I'm here for the occasional good debate and the lolz i get from watching a few of you act tough and give each other internet "High Fives".

 

[JPFisher]

Louisville is now celebrating transfer rankings and dreams. We've destroyed that fanbase, guys.

I'd take our class over theirs any day, anyway.

 

[kyhoward]

Not really in some polls they have AR in front of KY this one has KY higher.

These polls are “hogwash.”
Do you have the same Coach? Uh oh!

 

[Morgousky859]

4 In the last 72 years makes you a blue blood and the GOAT?
Teams with multiple championships

Team	Wins	Years won
UCLA	11	1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1995
Kentucky	8	1948, 1949, 1951, 1958, 1978, 1996, 1998, 2012

This is a stupid argument that always amazes me. There are hundreds of teams competing here, this isn’t a pro league with a small number. What Kentucky has done to sustain throughout generations is amazing. This is out of over 300 teams. Yes, it’s impressive.

40’s, 50’s, 70’s, 90’s, 10’s with no signs of stopping. Can you name another program that has done that to the degree we have? I’ll save you time, no. Not to mention all of the final fours and title games in between the decades without a title.

Kentucky is college basketballs all time standard. Then look at the rest of the NCAA all time categories. We’re the top in most of those, top 3-5 in the ones were not #1. It’s insane when you see how it actually works.

So if UK hasn’t impressed you, then no team in the sport does. You guys need to stop holding us to a standard no one else is. Kentucky is the most impressive start to finish over all.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

This is a stupid argument that always amazes me. There are hundreds of teams competing here, this isn’t a pro league with a small number. What Kentucky has done to sustain throughout generations is amazing. This is out of over 300 teams. Yes, it’s impressive.

40’s, 50’s, 70’s, 90’s, 10’s with no signs of stopping. Can you name another program that has done that to the degree we have? I’ll save you time, no. Not to mention all of the final fours and title games in between the decades without a title.

Kentucky is college basketballs all time standard. Then look at the rest of the NCAA all time categories. Were the top in most of those, top 3-5 in the ones were not #1.

So if UK hasn’t impressed you, then no team in the sport does. You guys need to stop holding us to a standard no one else is. Kentucky is the most impressive start to finish over all.

Actual footage of @HogFan2012 getting intellectually knocked out cold.

 

[Skyguyb27]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...00569363272448987974889876052bf&ei=70#image=1

It must suck being the only Arkanass basketball fan.

 

[JPFisher]

Actual footage of @HogFan2012 getting intellectually knocked out cold.

I dunno why, but I got a notification that you quoted me with this post

Love it... And I'm not no dang razorback.

 

[Runt#1969]

For your viewing pleasure : "The List"

This really needs to be updated .... and stickied !

last updated :

• Mar 15, 2015

• All Time Wins: 2173 (NCAA rank #1)
  All Time Winning Percentage: .764 (NCAA rank #1)
  NCAA Championships: PENDING (NCAA rank #2)
  NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 12 (NCAA rank #1)
  NCAA Final Four Appearances: 16 (NCAA rank #3)
  NCAA Final Four Games Played: 28 (NCAA rank #3)
  NCAA Final Four Wins: 20 (NCAA rank #2)
  NCAA Final Four Winning Percentage: .714 (NCAA rank #8)
  NCAA Elite-8 Appearances: 35 (NCAA rank #1)
  NCAA Sweet-16 Appearances: 40 (NCAA rank #1)
  NCAA Tournament Appearances: 53 (NCAA rank #1)
  NCAA Tournament Games Played: 163 (NCAA rank #1)
  NCAA Tournament Wins: 116 (NCAA rank #1)
  NCAA Tournament Winning Percentage: .712 (NCAA rank #4)
  Total Postseason Tournament Appearances (NCAA and NIT): 62 (NCAA rank #1)
  NBA Draft Picks: 110 (NCAA rank #1)
  All-Americans: 56 (NCAA rank #1)
  All-American Total Selections: 86 (NCAA rank #1)
  First Team Consensus All-Americans: 19 (NCAA rank #2)
  First Team Consensus All-American Total Selections: 24 (NCAA rank #4)
  AP Poll Top-20/25 Weeks Ranked All Time: 824 (NCAA rank #2)
  AP Poll Top-10 Weeks Ranked All Time: 652 (NCAA rank #1)
  AP Poll Top-5 Weeks Ranked All Time: 440 (NCAA rank #1)
  AP Poll #1 Weeks Ranked All Time: 119 (NCAA rank #3)
  Final AP Poll Top-25 Finishes: 48 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final AP Poll Top-20 Finishes: 48 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final AP Poll Top-15 Finishes: 43 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final AP Poll Top-10 Finishes: 39 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final AP Poll Top-5 Finishes: 28 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final AP Poll #1 Finishes: 9 (NCAA rank #1)
  All Time Winning Percentage Against AP-Ranked Opponents: .613 (NCAA Rank #1)
  Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-25 Finishes: 47 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-20 Finishes: 46 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-15 Finishes: 43 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-10 Finishes: 39 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-5 Finishes: 30 (NCAA rank #1)
  Final UPI/Coaches' Poll #1 Finishes: 8 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total 20-Win Seasons: 59 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total 25-Win Seasons: 33 (NCAA rank #2)
  Total 30-Win Seasons: 14 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total 35-Win Seasons: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
  Average Victories Per Season Played: 19.4017857142 (NCAA rank #3)
  Average Losses Per Season Played: 6.0 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Winning Seasons: 95 (NCAA rank #2)
  Total Non-Losing Seasons (.500 or better): 98 (NCAA rank #2)
  Total Undefeated Seasons: 2 (NCAA rank #2)
  Total Head Coaches With a NCAA Championship: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Head Coaches With Multiple NCAA Championships: 1 (NCAA rank #2)
  Total Head Coaches With Multiple NCAA Championships in the Same Decade: 1 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Head Coaches With a NCAA Championship Game Appearance: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Head Coaches With Multiple NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 4 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Head Coaches With Multiple NCAA Championship Game Appearances in the Same Decade: 4 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Head Coaches With a NCAA Final Four Appearance: 5 (NCAA rank #2)
  Total Head Coaches With Multiple NCAA Final Four Appearances: 4 (NCAA rank #2)
  Total Head Coaches With Multiple NCAA Final Four Appearances in the Same Decade: 4 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Head Coaches With Both NCAA and NIT Championships: 2 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades With a NCAA Championship: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades With Multiple NCAA Championships: 3 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades With a NCAA Championship Game Appearance: 6 (NCAA rank #2)
  Total Decades With Multiple NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades With a NCAA Final Four Appearance: 7 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades With Multiple NCAA Final Four Appearances: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades #1 in Total Wins (since 1930): 1 (NCAA rank #2)
  Total Decades Top-5 in Total Wins (since 1930): 4 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades Top-10 in Total Wins (since 1930): 7 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades #1 in Winning Percentage (since 1930): 2 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades Top-5 in Winning Percentage (since 1930): 6 (NCAA rank #1)
  Total Decades Top-10 in Winning Percentage (since 1930): 7 (NCAA rank #1)
  Conference Regular Season Championships: 48 (NCAA rank #2)
  Conference Tournament Championships: 28 (NCAA rank #1)
  National Attendance Titles: 25 (NCAA rank #1)
  
  (Of the 71 major categories listed above, Kentucky is #1 in 50 of them, #2 in 14 of them, #3 in 4 of them, #4 in 2 of them, and #8 in 1 of them.)
  
  Kentucky can also lay claim to several individual achievements for both players and coaches:
  
  13 players winning NBA Championships a total of 20 times
  12 players named NBA All-Star a total of 23 times
  12 Olympic Gold Medal winners
  10 Naismith Hall-of-Fame members
  5 players named National Player-of-the-Year
  2 players named National Freshman-of-the-Year
  6 head coaches named National Coach-of-the Year a total of 13 times
  7 head coaches named SEC Coach-of-the-Year a total of 22 times
  138 players named All-Conference a total of 231 times
  79 players named All-Conference Tournament a total of 115 times
  12 players named Conference Player-of-the-Year a total of 14 times
  7 players named Conference Freshman-of-the-Year
  31 players named to the All-Conference Freshman Team
  14 players named Conference Tournament MVP a total of 15 times
  18 players named All-NCAA Final Four a total of 21 times
  48 players named All-NCAA Regional a total of 62 times
  5 players named NCAA Final Four Most Outstanding Player a total of 6 times
  11 players named NCAA Regional Most Outstanding Player a total of 12 times
  74 players who played in the NBA at least one season
  60 1000-point scorers
  52 players named McDonald's All-American
  6 times being ranked #1 in the season opening AP Poll
  6 times being ranked #1 in the season opening UPI/Coaches' Poll
  12 times a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament
  
  Kentucky also holds several other NCAA records and various additional accomplishments:
  
  Kentucky has 2 NIT Championships (1946, 1976), 7 Helms Titles (1933, 1948, 1949, 1951, 1954, 1958, 1978), 2 undefeated seasons (1912, 1954), 5 Sugar Bowl Tournament Championships (1937, 1939, 1949, 1956, 1963), a league best all time SEC regular season record of 943-261 (.783), a league best 46 SEC Regular Season Championships, a league best all time SEC Tournament record of 123-25 (.831), and a league best 28 SEC Tournament Championships.
  
  Kentucky holds the NCAA records for Consecutive Non-Losing Seasons (60), Consecutive Home Court Victories (129), and for Total Victories in a Season (38).
  
  Kentucky plays in the nation's largest basketball arena (Rupp Arena, capacity: 23,500), and has both the nation's largest radio and television affiliate networks.
  
  Kentucky has made a 3-point basket in 933 consecutive games (2nd-most all time), and has won 17 of the last 20 National Attendance Titles, including 8 of the last 10 and 25 overall.
  
  Kentucky is the only school to have multiple NCAA (8) and NIT (2) Championships, the only school to have 5 different NCAA Championship head coaches, the only school to have 4 coaches with multiple NCAA Championship Game appearances, the only school to have 4 coaches with multiple NCAA Championship Game appearances in the same decade, the only school to have 4 coaches with 3 NCAA Final Four appearances, the only school to win NCAA Championships in 5 different decades, the only school to win multiple NCAA Championships in 3 different decades, the only school to have NCAA Championship Game appearances in 5 different decades, the only school to have multiple NCAA Championship Game appearances in 5 different decades, the only school to have multiple NCAA Final Four appearances in 5 different decades, the only school to have 2 different head coaches win both NCAA and NIT Championships, and the one of only 2 schools to have 2 different head coaches win a NCAA Championship in the same decade.
  
  Kentucky has played before the largest regulation basketball game crowd in history (79,444), the largest Final Four game crowd in history (79,444), the largest NCAA Championship Game crowd in history (79,238), and the largest total Final Four game crowd (both games) in history (158,682).
  
  Kentucky is the only school to have 5 players selected in the 1st-Round of the NBA Draft in the same year (2010), the only school to have both the #1 and #2 picks of the NBA Draft in the same year (2012), the only school to have 6 players drafted in the first 2 rounds of the NBA draft in the same year (2012), and the only school to sign 6 McDonald's All-Americans in the same year (2013).
  
  Kentucky was the first college program to reach both the 1000-win and 2000-win victory plateaus.
  
  Kentucky is the first team to be live-broadcast on the SEC Network.
  
  Kentucky is one of only three schools to have 9 McDonald's All-Americans on a single roster.
  
  Kentucky is the first school to hold an on-campus NBA Combine.

 

[nickhorvathsuxazz]

And yet, Arkansas beat us at Rupp. It is easy to dupe any fan base when you actually win big games . Arkansas got as far as we did last season so hate on Cal all you want but the team results were as good as ours. They will have a better team this year imo. I think we may have a better team as well. It will be fun.

Arky's season results weren't nearly as good as UK's...we beat 2 final four teams, including the national champions. Their tourney results were as good, the season not nearly. Arky fans were pissed off for 3/4 of the season last year...I was never mad at our team

 

[FLBBNFAN]

Arky's season results weren't nearly as good as UK's...we beat 2 final four teams, including the national champions. Their tourney results were as good, the season not nearly. Arky fans were pissed off for 3/4 of the season last year...I was never mad at our team

We had more wins, less losses and 8 wins against top 15 teams. Our season and overall record were better. These guys act like they just won the natty but are on this board because their program is lame and their board is crickets . Their fans have transiioned to following their ladies softball team lol.

 

[bucsrule8872]

We had more wins, less losses and 8 wins against top 15 teams. Our season and overall record were better. These guys act like they just won the natty but are on this board because their program is lame and their board is crickets . Their fans have transiioned to following their ladies softball team lol.

The selection committee did Arkansas a huge favor putting them up against the worst KU team in recent history and the one coach that could call Cal his kryptonite in Pitino.

I also wonder if being a double digit seed wasn’t a blessing in disguise since Cal got to be the underdog instead of the favorite. Cal hasn’t been very good as the favorite in the tourney lately (St. Peter’s, Oakland).

 

[FLBBNFAN]

The selection committee did Arkansas a huge favor putting them up against the worst KU team in recent history and the one coach that could call Cal his kryptonite in Pitino.

I also wonder if being a double digit seed wasn’t a blessing in disguise since Cal got to be the underdog instead of the favorite. Cal hasn’t been very good as the favorite in the tourney lately (St. Peter’s, Oakland).

Absolutely they got a dysfunctional Kansas team and a overrated St. John's. Being a 10 seed ensured they had no pressure and Calipari always does well when he's the underdog. They deserved the wins of course as they played well but their misplaced superiority complex is just delusional.