Ansley joins Alabama's staff

Rhavic

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He is gone, but want to wish him nothing but the best.

LOL. It's crazy that you're never going to have to remove the two birds humping in your sig. You could always just say that it's a Wildcat talking.
 

trumpetcat

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I like the way you think!

I am serious, but I am also trying to put this situation into a logical perspective.
 

Crushgroove

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I am serious, but I am also trying to put this situation into a logical perspective.
I suggest you search the phrase "Derrick Ansley to Alabama."

If it's not a "done deal" there are about 50 sites that will be retracting the same story that he's already been hired.
 

WildcatofNati

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Lol..give me a break with this stuff..you sound like a Louisville fan downplaying recruiting rankings.."Everyone knows stars don't really matter!"

Alabama doesn't hire a guy if he can't coach and recruit at a really high level. This reminds me of the monumental collapse we had at the end of last season's recruiting cycle where we lost the Dowell twins and others and most of our experts on here were talking about how it wasn't that big of a deal and how the players were overrated, even after we saw them go to teams like Michigan State and make significant contributions as true freshmen. I love our fans, but my goodness. We're just as bad as Louisville fans when it comes to taking an objective look at our team.
Actually, we're not as bad as Louisville fans. The post to which you responded was making fun of Louisville fans.

On this thread, the vast majority of fans are wishing Ansley the best. Compare to the filth on the Louisville boards when Thomas left.
 

JHB4UK

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Unlike Thomas & UL, Ansley has the respect of this program and head coach to wait until after signing day.

Kind of feast or famine with our staff hires. Some obvious good ones that were snapped up by superpowers LSU and Bama, or landed a head coach job. Others not so much, Navar, Dawson. I have confidence in Stoops selecting a great secondary coach.
 

screwduke

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Lol..give me a break with this stuff..you sound like a Louisville fan downplaying recruiting rankings.."Everyone knows stars don't really matter!"

Alabama doesn't hire a guy if he can't coach and recruit at a really high level. This reminds me of the monumental collapse we had at the end of last season's recruiting cycle where we lost the Dowell twins and others and most of our experts on here were talking about how it wasn't that big of a deal and how the players were overrated, even after we saw them go to teams like Michigan State and make significant contributions as true freshmen. I love our fans, but my goodness. We're just as bad as Louisville fans when it comes to taking an objective look at our team.

That was clearly sarcasm, as pointed out 15 times in the thread.
 

JMac04

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What did Stoops say about Ed Reed? I keep reading he mentioned Reed on NSD, but don't know what was said
 

numberonedad

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Huge may be a little hyperbole, but it is a loss. Ansley is a good coach and a good recruiter. He will be missed. But, he gets to work under the best defensive coach in college football and his next stop is likely (real) DC or HC. That said, Stoops closest ties in the football community are in defense, and particularly defensive backfield. It will be exciting to see who he gets.
Thats my point exactly. Stoops made his name and reputation coaching defensive backs. Im sure he knows a great DB coach that would LOVE to coach in the SEC. And also Ansley was never thought of as a great recruiter
 

jauk11

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I was thinking about making the valid argument that UK has some great talent returning in the DBs group, two four stars probably starting with two lower rated recruits starting, where their coach would get a lot of credit for coaching them up to start in front of THREE more four stars. If we are really good there it would make a lot bigger impression than having a really good group of DBs at Bama.

But then I looked at the DBs coming in at Bama in just the last TWO classes, two 5.8 four stars just the beginning, also one 5.9, THREE 6.0s, and a FIVE STAR. In TWO classes that should be there for his first three years, not counting the returning players that they have. Hell, I think I could look pretty good coaching that group, after all I was still playing DB playing flag football leagues into my forties. And forget all this fancy cover two, etc junk, back when I was playing HALFBACK on defense in high school about the only think my high school coach told me was don't let anyone get behind you. Still pretty applicable don't you think?.

JMO but the concentration on winning (and to hell with academics or morals, huh UL) is ruining the sport I love, when you look at it objectively what chance does UK have against Bama next year when an in state five star would rather sit on the bench there than be a big contributor at UK. And the disgusting thing is a lot of our fans agree with his choice, they had rather sit on the bench for a NC contender than be a star at a school like UK. Dumb, IMO, but that is the way sports is headed------already there really. Look at all the high school stars deserting their communities and going to the Trinities (Bishop Gorman a much better example) of the world, not to mention the seniors (like the two UL basketball has, where it backfired on them) in college deserting their teams for a bigger chance at personal exposure and WINNING.

And yes, UK does have a LONG shot at beating Bama upcoming, another reason I love the game.
 
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The_Oak

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Well this sucks, really love how our DB's have developed under Ansley. With that being said Ed Reed would be an interesting hire. He was an insanely great player, now I have no clue if he can actually coach the position. Being an all time great doesn't =/= being a great coach. Nonetheless it would be a big splash type hire and I'm sure he can recruit South Florida really well.
 

TJS4UK

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If true, I suspect that Ansley wants to get back closer to home, He's from Alabama after all. Can't blame him for that,

This is a loss, no sugar coating that, but the ray of sunshine is that Stoops specialty is coaching DB's & Stoops has coached some really good ones including Ed Reed.
 

hmt5000

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Pronto is his nickname. But I would love ed reed with Cole on board and the returnees.... that is a whole lot of talent in the back 4.
 
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trumpetcat

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I suggest you search the phrase "Derrick Ansley to Alabama."

If it's not a "done deal" there are about 50 sites that will be retracting the same story that he's already been hired.
Now I see some real evidence. The recent tweets by players is a big indication. Before that all we had was many sites with speculation and rumors but no true facts. That's why I was trying to put it into perspective. I now see the rumor is true, but I like to hold my judgement until I know all the facts first.
 
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I was thinking about making the valid argument that UK has some great talent returning in the DBs group, two four stars probably starting with two lower rated recruits starting, where their coach would get a lot of credit for coaching them up to start in front of THREE more four stars. If we are really good there it would make a lot bigger impression than having a really good group of DBs at Bama.

But then I looked at the DBs coming in at Bama in just the last TWO classes, two 5.8 four stars just the beginning, also one 5.9, THREE 6.0s, and a FIVE STAR. In TWO classes that should be there for his first three years, not counting the returning players that they have. Hell, I think I could look pretty good coaching that group, after all I was still playing DB playing flag football leagues into my forties. And forget all this fancy cover two, etc junk, back when I was playing HALFBACK on defense in high school about the only think my high school coach told me was don't let anyone get behind you. Still pretty applicable don't you think?.

JMO but the concentration on winning (and to hell with academics or morals, huh UL) is ruining the sport I love, when you look at it objectively what chance does UK have against Bama next year when an in state five star would rather sit on the bench there than be a big contributor at UK. And the disgusting thing is a lot of our fans agree with his choice, they had rather sit on the bench for a NC contender than be a star at a school like UK. Dumb, IMO, but that is the way sports is headed------already there really. Look at all the high school stars deserting their communities and going to the Trinities (Bishop Gorman a much better example) of the world, not to mention the seniors (like the two UL basketball has, where it backfired on them) in college deserting their teams for a bigger chance at personal exposure and WINNING.

And yes, UK does have a LONG shot at beating Bama upcoming, another reason I love the game.

That's not a lot, especially given the number of offenses that utilize 4-5 WR sets. And frankly, I'm disappointed. Just look at what LSU brings in every year. Can you imagine if we "over-recruited" at DB like LSU does?! Good lord. Unfortunately, as good as Saban is with the DB's, I think his personality can be a turnoff to recruits. If he was as funny/goofy as Les Miles, I have no doubt that we'd be in better shape at DB. That came back to haunt us in 2013. We were razor thin at corner and had to move Cyrus Jones from WR, and because of our lack of depth, Auburn and Oklahoma burned us on multiple passing plays.

Regarding the second section that I bolded, what are your thoughts on Calipari recruiting 5-stars to sit on the bench for a year or two? Should they go play for their home state's program, where they will have more of an impact? Or go to UK, IMO the greatest program in CBB history? There are certainly benefits for attending both UK and your home state's program, but if it were me, to remain consistent, I'd go to UK. But like I said, there is the chance for success at both schools. And personally, I can't stand the negative recruiting that other programs use on UK basketball. Injuries happen and you can never have too much talent. I get a kick out of people who say that he "recruits over" certain players (Wiltjer, Marcus Lee, Poythress, etc.) and pushes players out (Dodson, Wiltjer, Harrow, etc.) to make room for recruits who will be upgrades. It's garbage. And I feel the same way about people who say Urban Meyer and Les Miles "recruit over" QB's and DB's, respectively.
 
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Was going to make the same point rammer jammer. I've never understood why people have so much hate for kids that don't go to "State U". If I were fortunate enough to be recruited out of high school by a great academic college with a good sports program (e.g. Stanford), what's so bad about getting a top-notch education in exchange for playing a sport you love? Likewise, if I was being recruited to play at a traditional powerhouse in a sport (Alabama in football, Kentucky in basketball), that probably means I'm pretty dam good and have a chance to make the pros if I work hard. Each kid has to make his own decision and a lot depends on what they want to do after college. Just ask Parabolic about it if you don't "get it". I'm impressed with how well they've thought things through as he has a chance to play football in the best conference in America AND he's at a school with a top 20 program in his major. He has things covered whether or not his future involves pro football.

DH was a different situation because of how he handled his recruiting with UK. If a kid is up front about his intentions, then I see no reason to be critical. I also think DH was either a little immature or doesn't like to hurt people's feelings so he mishandled his UK recruitment. I'm sure he didn't want to be harassed by UK fans by publicly revealing he would sign with AL. However, he could have told Stoops right away so he could have focused his efforts on a realistic option.
 

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Guys. Nothing is confirmed yet. Think about it in perspective. Why would Ansley leave after a promotion and a pay raise. Of course it is Alabama, but sooner or later Ansley would have left for DC or head coach somewhere. This move would downgrade his authority and would be a backwards move in terms of position on the staff. I don't think Ansley would go there mainly because he is a very upfront guy and would never keep something away from his players especially when they came to UK because of him. He's not that type of guy. We'll see what happens tomorrow, but as of now nothing has been an indication of him leaving. He has not followed anybody but UK targets and fans recently. So just keep it in perspective.

Huh? Its been confirmed by multiple people.
 

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Lol..give me a break with this stuff..you sound like a Louisville fan downplaying recruiting rankings.."Everyone knows stars don't really matter!"

Alabama doesn't hire a guy if he can't coach and recruit at a really high level. This reminds me of the monumental collapse we had at the end of last season's recruiting cycle where we lost the Dowell twins and others and most of our experts on here were talking about how it wasn't that big of a deal and how the players were overrated, even after we saw them go to teams like Michigan State and make significant contributions as true freshmen. I love our fans, but my goodness. We're just as bad as Louisville fans when it comes to taking an objective look at our team.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...RZCuBgqnOX8huM7HQ&sig2=wN5_hQify9r5B_RdLB8zWQ
 

jauk11

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That's not a lot, especially given the number of offenses that utilize 4-5 WR sets. And frankly, I'm disappointed. Just look at what LSU brings in every year. Can you imagine if we "over-recruited" at DB like LSU does?! Good lord. Unfortunately, as good as Saban is with the DB's, I think his personality can be a turnoff to recruits. If he was as funny/goofy as Les Miles, I have no doubt that we'd be in better shape at DB. That came back to haunt us in 2013. We were razor thin at corner and had to move Cyrus Jones from WR, and because of our lack of depth, Auburn and Oklahoma burned us on multiple passing plays.

Regarding the second section that I bolded, what are your thoughts on Calipari recruiting 5-stars to sit on the bench for a year or two? Should they go play for their home state's program, where they will have more of an impact? Or go to UK, IMO the greatest program in CBB history? There are certainly benefits for attending both UK and your home state's program, but if it were me, to remain consistent, I'd go to UK. But like I said, there is the chance for success at both schools. And personally, I can't stand the negative recruiting that other programs use on UK basketball. Injuries happen and you can never have too much talent. I get a kick out of people who say that he "recruits over" certain players (Wiltjer, Marcus Lee, Poythress, etc.) and pushes players out (Dodson, Wiltjer, Harrow, etc.) to make room for recruits who will be upgrades. It's garbage. And I feel the same way about people who say Urban Meyer and Les Miles "recruit over" QB's and DB's, respectively.

LOL. Poor baby.

Bama finishes not just ahead of LSU five out of the last six years, but also ahead of EVERYONE in the nation. And the ONE year they didn't finish first they finished a close second, to USCw. One of those years LSU finished as low as 18th, and finished 8th the ONE year Bama finished 2nd.

LSU recruits over QB's, I don't blame him, in 15 they signed one TWO STAR and in 16 signed one 5.5 three star QB.

Besides I wasn't comparing Bama's recruiting to LSU's, that has about ten times the football talent (plus tradition, stadium, etc etc) as UK up until recently (probably still does, depth wise) with no in state competition, AND sandwiched between Texas and Mississippi.

So, UK finally has ONE position with FIVE four stars (from FOUR classes) on campus, amazing really, all only 5.8s, while Bama in your last TWO years has FIVE incoming that are higher than any of UK's, a 5.9, THREE 6.0s, AND a five star------PLUS two more four stars.

LOL, cry me a river, it must really suck to have to root for Bama------assuming that is even your state.
 
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LOL. Poor baby.

Bama finishes not just ahead of LSU five out of the last six years, but also ahead of EVERYONE in the nation. And the ONE year they didn't finish first they finished a close second, to USCw. One of those years LSU finished as low as 18th, and finished 8th the ONE year Bama finished 2nd.

LSU recruits over QB's, I don't blame him, in 15 they signed one TWO STAR and in 16 signed one 5.5 three star QB.

Besides I wasn't comparing Bama's recruiting to LSU's, that has about ten times the football talent (plus tradition, stadium, etc etc) as UK up until recently (probably still does, depth wise) with no in state competition, AND sandwiched between Texas and Mississippi.

So, UK finally has ONE position with FIVE four stars (from FOUR classes) on campus, amazing really, all only 5.8s, while Bama in your last TWO years has FIVE incoming that are higher than any of UK's, a 5.9, THREE 6.0s, AND a five star------PLUS two more four stars.

LOL, cry me a river, it must really suck to have to root for Bama------assuming that is even your state.

I simply mentioned that I wish we would "over-recruit" at corner like LSU does, and I noted that not doing so played a role in the way we ended the 2013 season. I didn't say that our classes weren't better than LSU's, I was just talking about corner. They have brought in more corners over the last few years, combined. And if you re-read my post, you'd see I associated Urban Meyer with "over-recruiting" at QB, not Les Miles. Just look at 2015, where he signed 3 when he already had at least 3 on the roster (although they did move Miller to WR). I don't have any problem with what both of them did.

As I mentioned, I'm interested in your thoughts on Calipari "recruiting-over" 5-stars and having some sit on the bench for a few years (Poythress, Wiltjer, Marcus Lee, etc.). There are people who claim that Cal's "over-recruiting" is a negative. Personally, I think those claims are garbage. You can never have too much talent, and injuries do happen. I am just curious to see if you are consistent and post about how 5-star recruits in basketball should go play for their home state, where they could potentially have a bigger role, as opposed to potentially coming off the bench or having a smaller role at UK. I assume that you feel that way, given that you're an objective and detailed poster. You're consistent, and I give you credit for that. Personally, I think young men can have success at UK Basketball like they can for their home state, much like young men can have success playing for our football program. Those young men can also be successful playing for their home state. Both options have many positives.
 
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maysvilleky

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What's Craig Yeast doing? I'd like to see someone like him brought on board with UK ties. I know he wasn't a DB...Just using him as an example. Switch another Coach around to the DB position.
 

Beatle Bum

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Ansley will be missed. Good recruiter and clearly one of the better coaches. Stoops seems to think he is close to getting a DC job. I hope this helps he achieve that goal. Hard to replace a DB coach/recruiter who is in line for a DC job. Some are saying Pelini should be in the mix. Others probably have a more knowledgeable take on whether that would be a good call.
 

Beatle Bum

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I simply mentioned that I wish we would "over-recruit" at corner like LSU does, and I noted that not doing so played a role in the way we ended the 2013 season. I didn't say that our classes weren't better than LSU's, I was just talking about corner. They have brought in more corners over the last few years, combined. And if you re-read my post, you'd see I associated Urban Meyer with "over-recruiting" at QB, not Les Miles. Just look at 2015, where he signed 3 when he already had at least 3 on the roster (although they did move Miller to WR). I don't have any problem with what both of them did.

As I mentioned, I'm interested in your thoughts on Calipari "recruiting-over" 5-stars and having some sit on the bench for a few years (Poythress, Wiltjer, Marcus Lee, etc.). There are people who claim that Cal's "over-recruiting" is a negative. Personally, I think those claims are garbage. You can never have too much talent, and injuries do happen. I am just curious to see if you are consistent and post about how 5-star recruits in basketball should go play for their home state, where they could potentially have a bigger role, as opposed to potentially coming off the bench or having a smaller role at UK. I assume that you feel that way, given that you're an objective and detailed poster. You're consistent, and I give you credit for that. Personally, I think young men can have success at UK Basketball like they can for their home state, much like young men can have success playing for our football program. Those young men can also be successful playing for their home state. Both options have many positives.

Poythress and Wiltjer really did not sit on the bench. Wiltjer may have predicted the bench for himself, but that probably was from a lack of confidence. Poythress was benched by injury. But, the guy was poised to be a leader last year on one of the deepest teams of talent in UK history. If you follow recruiting, you know Marcus Lee came to UK as a bench player behind more experienced talent. Without assuming your intention, your premise behind those guys seems flawed.
 

yoshukai

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Lol..give me a break with this stuff..you sound like a Louisville fan downplaying recruiting rankings.."Everyone knows stars don't really matter!"

Alabama doesn't hire a guy if he can't coach and recruit at a really high level. This reminds me of the monumental collapse we had at the end of last season's recruiting cycle where we lost the Dowell twins and others and most of our experts on here were talking about how it wasn't that big of a deal and how the players were overrated, even after we saw them go to teams like Michigan State and make significant contributions as true freshmen. I love our fans, but my goodness. We're just as bad as Louisville fans when it comes to taking an objective look at our team.
Get a clue dude .